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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted August 16, 2013 01:12 PM |
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Elvin said:
RedEmperor30 said: Agreed JJ, note that with deck builds being mentioned - just because you get Dharmia, you need specific unique cards to make her formidable!! this you will find out after today and the mass comm download of her - enjoy testing
Perfect, a fresh supply of Dhamiria younglings to crush
Please don't hurt me!!!!
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 16, 2013 01:18 PM |
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Actually she's the one and only Inferno hero I have. I've not enough creature quality in my standard Necro deck, it would seem, so it might be time to give her and my Bastion deck a try.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 16, 2013 02:23 PM |
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The_Polyglot said: Dhamiria is the one hero I wouldn't take even if it was free for the taking, too OP to be fun in my book.
You'd have to learn how to survive first and then we'd see about how OP you'd consider her
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bloucester
Famous Hero
MSN can go to hell
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posted August 16, 2013 03:35 PM |
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So no fireballs in any of the predominant Dhamiria decks? Aren't they worth adding?
As for the whining, come back to me when you lose 20+ games in exactly the same manner - Untaimed Wraith, Spider, Spider, Banshee, Atropos... and the occasional Forbidden flame.
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The_Polyglot
Promising
Supreme Hero
channeling capybara energy
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posted August 16, 2013 04:53 PM |
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I know how to survive, but her OPness denies me.
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redemperor30
Famous Hero
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posted August 16, 2013 05:07 PM |
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bloucester said: So no fireballs in any of the predominant Dhamiria decks? Aren't they worth adding?
As for the whining, come back to me when you lose 20+ games in exactly the same manner - Untaimed Wraith, Spider, Spider, Banshee, Atropos... and the occasional Forbidden flame.
Crap man, that sounds like my nec deck u keep losing to, adapt or die ok only kidding, believe it or not my flesh dec has a ceiling of 1350 after that haven owns me, inferno and sanc, orcs I still have a chance, great build emp
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bloucester
Famous Hero
MSN can go to hell
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posted August 16, 2013 05:50 PM |
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My deck limit seems to be 1350 as well, perhaps it's not the decks, mate.
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EvilNuff
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 16, 2013 06:11 PM |
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bloucester said: So no fireballs in any of the predominant Dhamiria decks? Aren't they worth adding?
As for the whining, come back to me when you lose 20+ games in exactly the same manner - Untaimed Wraith, Spider, Spider, Banshee, Atropos... and the occasional Forbidden flame.
Typically at higher elo's you rarely get to use a fireball for more than 1 creature so they start losing their value. Also Dhamiria has the mass aoe spells like insect swarm.
I struggle with Necro as well. I have tried Dhamiria, Adar himself (with all the cards), and Stronghold spell Kelthor. My best is spell Kelthor but I think that is mostly because I am just not a very good Necro player vs other Necro. With Kelthor as long as I don't get a bad opening hand I can win most of the time.
However, with that said, I would be very interested if anyone has any deck ideas for what might be the strongest decks at the moment vs Necro in general? Whenever I enter a swiss I am shocked if 50% or more are not Necro, its pretty crazy.
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The_Polyglot
Promising
Supreme Hero
channeling capybara energy
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posted August 16, 2013 06:39 PM |
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Well, my most recent Fat Yukiko seems to do fine against Adar/Seria/Fleshbane somewhere in the 1000-1300 range. Probably because I can nullify some Spitter action via Kabuki Tei, in general having high health, and packing 4 Days of Sanctuary. Do You want to see the complete decklist?
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bloucester
Famous Hero
MSN can go to hell
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posted August 16, 2013 06:44 PM |
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Quote: Typically at higher elo's you rarely get to use a fireball for more than 1 creature so they start losing their value. Also Dhamiria has the mass aoe spells like insect swarm.
I don't entirely agree. There are some builds that still use fireballs after the 1300 ELO mark for example. I've been playing vs a lot of Garants, Adar-Maliks, Alias to name a few, who do. It is still devastating against creature heavy decks like my 5/2/1 Kelthor.
As for the best deck against Necro it would probably be another Necro deck... or a deck that has the Strength of the Sea and Monsoons to counter Adar-Malik, Purity to counter Spitters and some sort of protection from Dark Spells. That would be a specifically tailored Haven deck... Sandalphon perhaps, although he doesn't have Light spells, but a 3/4/1 Sandalphon doesn't have big creatures for the Necro hero to puppet master. Or Cassandra...
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bloucester
Famous Hero
MSN can go to hell
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posted August 16, 2013 06:48 PM |
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That said, I can beat most Necros apart from Adar Maliks who manage to nullify my advantage with The Forbidden Flame and Atropos (and Arianas as well) with a good opening hand with my deck.
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EvilNuff
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 16, 2013 07:07 PM |
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Edited by EvilNuff at 19:10, 16 Aug 2013.
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The_Polyglot said: Well, my most recent Fat Yukiko seems to do fine against Adar/Seria/Fleshbane somewhere in the 1000-1300 range. Probably because I can nullify some Spitter action via Kabuki Tei, in general having high health, and packing 4 Days of Sanctuary. Do You want to see the complete decklist?
Yes please, I still have not been able to build any good sanctuary decks that I like.
Bloucester said: I don't entirely agree. There are some builds that still use fireballs after the 1300 ELO mark for example. I've been playing vs a lot of Garants, Adar-Maliks, Alias to name a few, who do. It is still devastating against creature heavy decks like my 5/2/1 Kelthor.
Sure my Kelthor uses 2 fireballs and is a 1200-1300 deck. You will frequently see 2ish in Adar decks as well, just not often the full 4.
Bloucester, that's similar to my Kelthor deck except I have more spells instead of enrage and still own no Vulture Riders <sigh>. I find that with a bad draw I just die horribly to necro, vs any other deck I still have a chance. With a great draw I slaughter Necro.
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The_Polyglot
Promising
Supreme Hero
channeling capybara energy
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posted August 16, 2013 07:32 PM |
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Here it is, bit rough around the edges, still experimenting, and ofc I lack the card that makes or breaks such decks, really satisfying to play though. I'm trying Void Keepers out, been facing much too much Necro lately... Eh, probably not worth subbing out the Venerable Kappas, but on the other hand, my melee line gets crampy as ***. Notice that this could also be a Takana deck with some minor changes.
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bloucester
Famous Hero
MSN can go to hell
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posted August 16, 2013 11:13 PM |
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Now that they are giving away Dhamirias, I think it's only fair they put The Forbidden Flame in the pit next Friday.
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redemperor30
Famous Hero
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posted August 16, 2013 11:24 PM |
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bloucester said: Now that they are giving away Dhamirias, I think it's only fair they put The Forbidden Flame in the pit next Friday.
Completely and utterly agree!!
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 17, 2013 02:26 AM |
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Now that they're giving away Dhamirias they should fix that damn austerity or we'll drown in slowpokes..
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted August 17, 2013 12:09 PM |
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Edited by RMZ1989 at 13:06, 17 Aug 2013.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted August 17, 2013 01:37 PM |
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I still hope for fortress
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We see, we look, we gather, we store, we teach.
We are many, and you can be one of us.
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bloucester
Famous Hero
MSN can go to hell
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posted August 17, 2013 01:39 PM |
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If a new faction is to be added, the logical choice would be one focused on air magic since we don't have that yet. So wizards...
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 17, 2013 02:01 PM |
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My hope was either sylvan or academy. Looks like academy it is
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