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Fauch
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posted October 17, 2013 02:38 AM |
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no invasion of Syria, negotiations with Iran. did USA decide to let their economy collapse or they found a better plan?
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del_diablo
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posted October 17, 2013 02:57 AM |
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Wikipedia claims its still in progress. Ideally it would end with either a executive order, or it stays on forever until the Republicans budge(not really, i doubt it). The democrats budging would be a disaster too.
The default going on for too long will spark a economical disaster and large riots, unless the state levels deal with it.
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Corribus
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posted October 17, 2013 03:09 AM |
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Edited by Corribus at 03:10, 17 Oct 2013.
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The Senate passed a bill. Boehner has already stated the House Republicans won't stand in the way. Most likely they'll pass it. Since it is a complete capitulation on the GOP's part, there's no reason Obama won't sign it. Gov't will reopen either tomorrow or Friday, depending on when it's signed.
And in any case an executive order won't do squat. The President can't appropriate funds by executive order.
EDIT: Obama has already stated he'll sign the bill if the House passes it.
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del_diablo
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posted October 17, 2013 07:54 PM |
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So basically.... both sides caved in? I am still not sure what happened. Was the original budget passed? Or was it altered?
Going over the slashdot response.
And I guess something interisting is written once in a while:
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Maybe a more accurate headline is "US Government Shutdown on temporary hiatus"? It's only a few months funding, and there's no guarantee we won't go through the entire thing again come January 15th...
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Nothing was lost? All the work that the government workers could have been doing during the shutdown was lost. All the revenue from the National Parks were lost. Two weeks food inspections, drug inspections, VA claims processing were lost . Worldwide confidence in the US and the US dollar was lost. US credit rating was compromised with the possibility of higher interest rates on new deficit. Scientific tests will have to be thrown out and restarted.
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I didn't think the Democrats were capable of not caving in.
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Why did you think that? They knew the moderate Republicans in the House would eventually force Boehner's hand. Even Boehner knew it, but this little dance had to go all the way because the moderate Republicans are as terrified of the Tea Party as they are of voters.
Obama and Congressional Democrats have seen this growing weakness in the GOP since 2008, and have been waiting for a chance to humiliate Boehner. Now they'll sit back and watch the civil war in the Republican ranks make the Republicans' dominance of the house become an empty accomplishment.
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markkur
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posted October 18, 2013 12:19 PM |
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Edited by markkur at 12:24, 18 Oct 2013.
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Yes, masterful indeed, Nancy. Masterful indeed.
@ Corribus
+100  My sides hurt.
Edit= How do these guys keep getting elected?
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del_diablo
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posted October 21, 2013 10:20 AM |
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Press is not neutral. If they where, the press would start crapping on both parties quite hard once they started messing up bad in succession. Even if a portion was neutral, for such a large and widespread area, it would not matter unless only the minority was biased.
The choice of plague or some other bad disease is not something the public should have, and the electorate systems further amplify it. Or at the least I think. Surely somebody can come up with other good reasons why the system is not good.
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friendofgunnar
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posted October 21, 2013 10:58 AM |
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I just don't understand why my fellow Americans can't see what a defective political system we have. One where the president, the Senate, and the House can all be taken over by a minority party (less votes). One where there's no political repercussions for relentless borrowing. And most of all, a system where billions and billions of dollars can be spent on campaigns and elections and yet there's no clear winner.
meh
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markkur
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posted October 21, 2013 04:10 PM |
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Edited by markkur at 16:11, 21 Oct 2013.
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friendofgunnar said:
I just don't understand why my fellow Americans can't see what a defective political system we have.
I don't know anyone who thinks it good anymore, I think what's puzzling is the aversion to "tea-parties" and just accepting the grind.(I did the same)
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