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NamelessOrder
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posted January 17, 2014 03:17 PM |
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hello!
I created a Balance and Metagame problems Discussion Thread
Thankfully a developer joined.
A couple of key points from the discussion:
- Necro is UP and prolly will be improved in the next expansion
- uniques recycling will be fixed but Singularity won't be nerfed
- as they stated repeatedly weak cards won't be buffed and they shut down all my suggestions
- this is what i don't like: they won't implement any hot-fixes b4 the new expansion which they claim is gonna be huge
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stream on twitch.tv: http://www.twitch.tv/gz_tv/
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RMZ1989
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posted January 17, 2014 03:23 PM |
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NamelessOrder said:
hello!
I created a Balance and Metagame problems Discussion Thread
Thankfully a developer joined.
A couple of key points from the discussion:
- Necro is UP and prolly will be improved in the next expansion
- uniques recycling will be fixed but Singularity won't be nerfed
- as they stated repeatedly weak cards won't be buffed and they shut down all my suggestions
- this is what i don't like: they won't implement any hot-fixes b4 the new expansion which they claim is gonna be huge
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On Sunday, 19th at 18:00 CET a showmatch between 2 most prominent DoC teams will be streamed.
Make sure not to miss it!
more info: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/823165-Team-Showmatch-TeamGZ-vs-A1-Alliance
stream on twitch.tv: http://www.twitch.tv/gz_tv/
Thanks nameless, nice one.
I also dislike a lot that they are just releasing expansions every 3-6 months and are doing balance changes then instead of patching the damn game. It is like in Forgotten Wars, if one of your factions is screwed up(like Necro), then tough luck, you will have to wait for next expansion and pray for it to get better.
I like that they are willing to improve Necro(my favorite faction) and fix the unique recycling.
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DoubleDeck
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posted January 20, 2014 06:57 AM |
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NamelessOrder said:
they won't implement any hot-fixes b4 the new expansion which they claim is gonna be huge
Glad to hear the expansion will be huge, if it's base set 2 then alot of new cards can be expected...then we will only be able to make decks with base set 1 or base set 2 but not both? (with Void, Herald, FoW fitting into either set)...
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Hermes
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posted January 20, 2014 10:49 AM |
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I have just won my first ever Swiss with Academy - so happy! Really wanted to get my hands on Ammar but didn't want to spend wildcards out of principle I was coming second often but never got to the top before with my Miranda deck. I like my deck though, it has a variety of spells and creatures with an aim to control the tempo with portals and such, some stalling and removal to get to the later game when I drop big creatures. Not always super effective but very fun to play.
I got matched up against Kieran first, then Crag Hack and finally creature Ishuma classic.. Almost got my ass kicked, had 2hp left, very difficult match up indeed! Now I got Ammar and Gazal Lady of Secrets to play around with!
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DoubleDeck
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posted January 20, 2014 12:09 PM |
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Congratulations Hermes on the achievement!
But really Ammar and Gazal are crap now, oyu would be better off with Asalah and Hakeem for academy.
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Dave_Jame
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posted January 20, 2014 12:15 PM |
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Wich oof the two Gazals are you talking about DD?
LoS is useless imho
But Hov is one of the most played heroes out there, I would even say the most played academi hero.
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DoubleDeck
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posted January 20, 2014 12:20 PM |
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Both Gazals.
Yes the HoV Gazal is much better, but in terms of the meta, the best academy heroes are Asalah and Hakeem I reckon. I face more hakeem's then any other hero from academy.
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Hermes
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posted January 20, 2014 01:01 PM |
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Thank you Doubldeck
So what makes LoS and Ammar bad? I think their school combos are good, especially LoS as I love Prime. I find Hakeem powerful with his stats and schools but I just don't like playing fortune based heroes..
I always like playing underpowered heroes.. I got to 1000 elo using Jezziel 
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Dave_Jame
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posted January 20, 2014 04:39 PM |
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Just my theory on why LoS is not as good as she could be.
First of all let's look at her spell schools. Pirme and light are both schools that have some good spells, but at this moment are not that good. They are both support schools, that can not do much on their own and have limited to no way how to eliminate creatures of your oponent.
Second, if we look at Academy creatures, you can't say they are powerhouse, they are resiliant but they can't do that much on their own. They rarely have more then 3 power, and if they do, they have some kind of a drawback (genies).
If you look at the best academy decks, or even the semi-common decks, they either relay on Dark magic (Hakeem, Gazal), boosting creatures (Asalah, Akane), or long games with magic support (Akane, Myranda) But Light and prime lack any of these. They can controle the board for a short time, but not that much in the long run.
For example Keiran has the same schools, 2-1-0 starting values, and Haven has more agressive creatures. Still you see him rarely.
Even I belive these schools have potential, but I don't think Gazal especially as an academy hero has the raw power to use them.
As far as Ammar goes. The reason he is so weak is simple. He still leans to what is known as a Water magic OTK build. But there are heroes like Asalah and Akane who get the work done better and faster. Wich is a big plus in the curent meta, full of Cosmics.
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posted January 24, 2014 06:18 AM |
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REACHED 1501 ELO! Yeah BABY YEAH!
Eventually!
Was playing a version of JKK's Dhamiria with soothsayers and more fortune to gradually reach 1450, then turned to Ishuma 5/1/1 build (gotta have Venerable Kappas & Sayama Champions) and got from 1450 to 1501 last night with a 15 win streak:
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RedEmperor30
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posted January 24, 2014 08:03 AM |
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congrats double welcome to the club!!
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The_Polyglot
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posted January 26, 2014 12:52 PM |
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Just an FYI, a really interesting tourney will take place on the 1st of February,(16:00 CEST) and registration's open now! Click for more info
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kayna
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posted January 26, 2014 11:27 PM |
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Getting tired of this game. Fun, but mostly just putting down creatures and attacking, unless you grinded at least 100 levels for cards. I even gave them 30 $ to speed up the process but 30 $ + lvl 30 isn't enough to build a good deck. Well I could but that would mean only playing 1 deck, which is boring as well.
All the fun cards are epic rares. rest is just creatures or direct damage spells or drawing cards.
Not a scam like Magic the Gathering but still so... Also, the inability to cast spells during your opponent's turn makes it so countering another s deck is harder, so it's just often a rush to which deck's combo gets out first.
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NamelessOrder
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posted January 26, 2014 11:41 PM |
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kayna said:
Getting tired of this game. Fun, but mostly just putting down creatures and attacking, unless you grinded at least 100 levels for cards. I even gave them 30 $ to speed up the process but 30 $ + lvl 30 isn't enough to build a good deck. Well I could but that would mean only playing 1 deck, which is boring as well.
All the fun cards are epic rares. rest is just creatures or direct damage spells or drawing cards.
Not a scam like Magic the Gathering but still so... Also, the inability to cast spells during your opponent's turn makes it so countering another s deck is harder, so it's just often a rush to which deck's combo gets out first.
Kayna i cannot agree with you on that especially that we have the Champions Deck for 1775 seals (or sth like that) that has enough cards to cheaply complete Crag Hack (a very strong T2 deck) and Kelthor (the most popular deck right now).
Btw. I loled at the part: "Not a scam like Magic" - but when you think about it - you're right 
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kayna
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posted January 27, 2014 01:29 AM |
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Disregard the "good" deck. I'm talking about fun. I don't consider just putting creatures on the table and attacking to be "fun". I looked at that champion deck, and it is a cheap little rush deck, which exactly proves my later point of whoever gets his combo out first wins part.
Not sure which "keltor" deck you re talking about, I dont know the game well enough. I assume that Crag Hack's deck is also a little cheap rush deck, considering his special ability.
Compared to Magic the Gathering, this game sucks to be honest. Can't cast spells during your opponent's turn, cant mix colors ( races ) together, no tokens, plenty of stuff is lacking... And most cards that interests me are epic rares.
If only we could trade cards, I could focus on 1 strong deck, and when I get bored of it, trade my cards for my next deck. But nope. Same deck all the time and grind 1 000 + hours for a real collection. ZZZZZZZZ. With the ranking system, this isn't pay to win, but rather... pay to have fun.
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RMZ1989
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posted January 27, 2014 03:09 AM |
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NamelessOrder said:
kayna said:
Getting tired of this game. Fun, but mostly just putting down creatures and attacking, unless you grinded at least 100 levels for cards. I even gave them 30 $ to speed up the process but 30 $ + lvl 30 isn't enough to build a good deck. Well I could but that would mean only playing 1 deck, which is boring as well.
All the fun cards are epic rares. rest is just creatures or direct damage spells or drawing cards.
Not a scam like Magic the Gathering but still so... Also, the inability to cast spells during your opponent's turn makes it so countering another s deck is harder, so it's just often a rush to which deck's combo gets out first.
Kayna i cannot agree with you on that especially that we have the Champions Deck for 1775 seals (or sth like that) that has enough cards to cheaply complete Crag Hack (a very strong T2 deck) and Kelthor (the most popular deck right now).
Btw. I loled at the part: "Not a scam like Magic" - but when you think about it - you're right
What part of Magic the Gathering is scam? I didn't play the game on PC, so I would like to know.
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posted January 27, 2014 07:14 AM |
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kayna said:
Disregard the "good" deck. I'm talking about fun. I don't consider just putting creatures on the table and attacking to be "fun".
Not sure which "keltor" deck you re talking about, I dont know the game well enough.
Compared to Magic the Gathering, this game sucks to be honest. Can't cast spells during your opponent's turn
Hi Kayna, on your three points above:
- Creature Ishuma 5/1/1 (or 5/2/1) is a very fun deck, even though it's creatures only (with some gold piles) you outmanoeuvre and disrupt opponents, and win rate is high, that's fun to me!
- Kelthor deck he mentioned: Spellthor (High hitting, high health creatures, with spells from fire and air) very effective.
- A turn-based strategy game should not allow players to play when it's the opponents turn, that's why it's "turn-based". Look at chess, imagine you could go when your opponent is going? Anyway, don't know Magic the gathering so maybe it has a good dynamic.
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RedEmperor30
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posted January 27, 2014 08:29 AM |
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Not so long ago i posted how i had reached the plateau and become bored with the game - I have been playing for some time now, and it is a shame to see a new player coming to the same conclusion.
The reality is that right now there are 5 competitive decks.
Poly and I had a good couple duel sessions last night with completely experimental decks - and lo & behold it felt fun again.
The underlying issue here for me is that current card balancing and issues have really limited gameplay. Although idealistic, it would be great to be able to play any hero with a decent chance of having a gr8 duel - FUN is ultimately why we all plays this game
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NamelessOrder
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posted January 27, 2014 09:04 AM |
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kayna said:
Disregard the "good" deck. I'm talking about fun. I don't consider just putting creatures on the table and attacking to be "fun". I looked at that champion deck, and it is a cheap little rush deck, which exactly proves my later point of whoever gets his combo out first wins part.
Not sure which "keltor" deck you re talking about, I dont know the game well enough. I assume that Crag Hack's deck is also a little cheap rush deck, considering his special ability.
Compared to Magic the Gathering, this game sucks to be honest. Can't cast spells during your opponent's turn, cant mix colors ( races ) together, no tokens, plenty of stuff is lacking... And most cards that interests me are epic rares.
If only we could trade cards, I could focus on 1 strong deck, and when I get bored of it, trade my cards for my next deck. But nope. Same deck all the time and grind 1 000 + hours for a real collection. ZZZZZZZZ. With the ranking system, this isn't pay to win, but rather... pay to have fun.
I have no intention to convince you that sth you don't consider fun is fun. I'd like to point out some things:
- when i started the game i was skeptical about it's F2P model (having the experience of MtG), now i am convinced, Ubi actually is giving away a lot for free
- it's not MtG, it was simplified but at the higher level the game is quite deep and no mana cards and easy access to drawing new cards make it relatively less luck dependent than MtG
- the idea is that you can do sth else during your opponent's turn and there will never be a trading system - the game doesn't need it
- well in almost every CCG some good cards are harder to get
I was talking about standard Kelthor - sth like that: http://tools.mmdocking.com/replays/show/1771
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kayna
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posted January 28, 2014 04:59 PM |
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RMZ1989 said:
What part of Magic the Gathering is scam? I didn't play the game on PC, so I would like to know.
Picture playing DoC but you had to pay real money for every card you got free. That's the Magic scam. the sheer $$$ it costs.
And yes, I agree one some of your points. It's still a good Free to Play game. Drawing 2 cards instead of 1 ? Im not sure if its right or wrong. The hero lvling up system is nice though.
But... The game NEEDS a trading system and casting cards in your opponent s turn. Trading is FUN, where as casting spells during your opponent s turn increases the SURPRISES. As the game stands now, you can know when you re going to win the moment your opponent ends his turn, something you never see in Magic, unless he got all his lands tapped, which also includes a major bluff aspect to it. Not even comparable.
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