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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted March 22, 2018 08:44 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 20:46, 22 Mar 2018.
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https://youtu.be/ZqnZqn5XXXk
Warpath might be solid, but Face Collector looks quite strong. RNG is RNG, but it's a Rouge card, so that means you can easily get a lot of value from him with Shadowstep and other gimmicks... this card will be funny in Wild where you have Brann, Xaril's potion and other rebound cards.
BTW it's intresting how their initial idea was called Murder on Gilnean Express. So a lot of people had a good hunch. It's also quite novel for them to reveal experimental mechanics. This might very well be used in the future.
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted March 22, 2018 10:04 PM |
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Warpath and Face collector are both great cards.
Warpath is a great solid warrior card. I like it.
Face Collector. RNG. A lot of RNG. There are a lot of crappy legendaries. But as you say with the many tech cards rogue has, this card can be so fun to play. I like it.
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted March 26, 2018 12:11 PM |
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Well boys we've seen some interesting, fun but mostly underwhelming cards so far but starting tonight we are going to see what this expansion is all about, little by little we we'll be introduced to the new broken cards with power levels similar to last expansions possessed lackey, dark pact, corridor creeper, call to arms, aluneth, explosive runes etc
My personal predictions are that:
- warlock, paladin and rogue will get next to nothing;
- druid, priest and hunter will get some stuff;
- shaman, warrior and mage we'll get the good stuff;
Since they added that totem cruncher beaver card that probably is a neutral tech card vs totems i predict Hagatha will have something to with totems, which will be strong in standard and completely broken in wild where there already are a lot of good totem and totem synergy cards.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted March 26, 2018 01:10 PM |
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I for one will be watching the reveals closely. I'm still taking into account pre-ordering, although paying a full-game price for a bunch of virtual images seems a bit too much (adventures are a bit different story). I do enjoy the game, and will be playing it probably a lot more in the future, but I can't even use Amazon coins in my country :/
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted March 26, 2018 01:18 PM |
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You guys really think Face Collector is strong? i like the card but Rogue is not a Control class. Random Legendary just screams Nat Pagle to me, maybe because it seems to always come from Sindragosas random Legendaries lol.
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Ereinion156
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 26, 2018 05:05 PM |
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Did you see this event
I just wanted to warn you to not "waste" your dailies until the event starts. I already did that a little as I assumed it started already. Well, nevermind.
Strange tho that it was not announced in Hearstone/Battle.net directly.
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted March 26, 2018 05:23 PM |
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Yes I wasted a daily, because I simply thought today was the day
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"These friends probably started using condoms after having produced the most optimum amount of offsprings. Kudos to them for showing at least some restraint" - Tsar-ivor
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted March 26, 2018 06:35 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 20:50, 26 Mar 2018.
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I also thought it started on 26th, just after midnight, but the snowy post reads "The party starts on March 26 at 11:59 p.m. PDT", so basically on 27th! No wonder people got confused.
I was tipped off by the lack of any in-game announcement and such, so I decided to re-read the whole post again and I noticed it basically reads "starts at 27th". This promotion is the most confusing yet! Well I needed to complete a daily anyhow to make room for March 27th daily (1 free slot).
EDIT: Some sources say the promotion will start in EU at 7:59 on March 27th.
EDIT 2: Seriously Blizzard? Rebuke? A mini-Loatheb spell to counter board clears against Dude Paladin? Insta-nerf, plus Whalen has no idea what he's talking about...
- Shaw at least seems solid, good stats and effect.
- Priest looses Barnes? Give him another 'cheat minion card' in the form of Vivid Nightmare...
- Glinda Crowskin + Giants (yeah, Naga Sea Witch wasn't enough)...
Balancing seems to be all-over the place in this expansion.
Aside from that Amalgam is interesting, a first all-tribe minion I wonder if those buff Murloc/Dragon cards from Kharazan multiplies the effect?
Finally Hagatha... she seems decent at best, but the question is how she fits with both late game and Shaman spells? And no Brode, it's not OP
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted March 26, 2018 08:51 PM |
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Ugh, Rebuke seems awful. We all know what deck will use it lol. For 2 mana at turn 5 you can play Murlock Warleader and this, hit face for 10 if you have just a few minions. Next turn gg.
Other cards are hard to decipher, they seem decent but not OP. Rotten Applebaum is great, it basically heals for 9. Houndmaster Shaw is nice too, although I don't play Hunter. Vivid Nightmare is not a cheating card, it is a lesser Molten Reflection. A dead card in hand if you have no minions on board. How is that comparable to broken Barnes? :S
I wanna try Hagatha although I fear she wont be that good in the end xD
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted March 26, 2018 09:07 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 21:11, 26 Mar 2018.
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Rebuke screams OP. Whalen talked about Uther DK and how this spell can be utilized to help you summon the tokens, or help control decks, but the fact it will be overused in aggro decks does not bother him... I love this random comment about it "Rebuke WTF another Infinity Stone in Paladin's gauntlet"
Minion said: Vivid Nightmare is not a cheating card, it is a lesser Molten Reflection. A dead card in hand if you have no minions on board. How is that comparable to broken Barnes? :S
Ah sorry, misread that Thought it summons from your deck.
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted March 26, 2018 09:52 PM |
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Shaw = fair enough. 4 mana is the key here I think. It is low cost enough to be somewhat useful
Rebuke = awesome (if played at the right time)
Hagatha = Fun, but who knows.. spell shaman? control shaman?
Warlock legendary = Pls stop! At least it is "high cost" ..
Murloc/Dragon/ETC card = I love it!
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted March 26, 2018 10:55 PM |
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The amalgam thing dies to hungry crab, golakka crawler and dragonslayer.
The shaman hero is really dissapointing, maybe it will be strong, but I was expecting something way cooler from the main villain.
The warlock legendary I feel at least in wild will be broken in some sort of giants, coldlight oracle summoning portal combo; cannot see the combo but i can feel it is there.
The hunter legendary is really strong, imagine following it with a spell stone or a cave hydra and crackling razormaw.
Druids got meme cards, trash tier.
Priest card is also bad.
The shaman babbling book is worse than the mage variant cause most shaman spells are trash.
the 5 4/5 taunt heal 4 dr is average.
rebuke is hard to say, loatheb is great cause the ability comes with a solid 5/5 body which u can always get value from, not so sure about the spell, because it is useless in at least 50% of games.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted March 27, 2018 12:01 AM |
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Here's what I think:
watcher83 said: The amalgam thing dies to hungry crab, golakka crawler and dragonslayer.
True, but who runs them nowadays? The card is a MtG idea I think. There was this idea to push multi-tribe decks, maybe they want to build upon it?
watcher83 said: The shaman hero is really dissapointing, maybe it will be strong, but I was expecting something way cooler from the main villain.
True dat. Her abilities actually fits her flavor, but so far I don't see her played that much. It's bad that she hurts you own minions. Shaman has quite a few useless spells (if used outside of specific deck), but he also has a lot of good ones. The RNG though, it's probably the reason why Runespear was never played...
watcher83 said: The warlock legendary I feel at least in wild will be broken in some sort of giants, coldlight oracle summoning portal combo; cannot see the combo but i can feel it is there.
Giants are already broken... broken + broken = mega broken?
watcher83 said: The hunter legendary is really strong, imagine following it with a spell stone or a cave hydra and crackling razormaw.
Good body and can be utilized in many ways. It will probably contend with Thundra Rhino.
watcher83 said: Druids got meme cards, trash tier.
Priest card is also bad.
No arguing here, but the Priest one can be exploited (Circle of Healing, boosted Hero power etc)
watcher83 said: rebuke is hard to say, loatheb is great cause the ability comes with a solid 5/5 body which u can always get value from, not so sure about the spell, because it is useless in at least 50% of games.
Yeah, but it is its cost that bothers me. Like Minion said, play it right and you can drop a Murloc Warleader that will be protected nicely...
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted March 27, 2018 11:53 AM |
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As a funny thought Glinda Crowskin would be the perfect answer in a Temporus meta ( that will never be a thing, I know)
They play Temporus on turn ten and whatever.
On your first turn you play glinda and summoning portal.
Turn 2 you play summoning portal and 4 leeroys and soulfire for 28.
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted March 27, 2018 01:01 PM |
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I kinda feel this works for Zoo, because when you are ahead on board by turn 6 it will be difficult to kill Glinda Crowskin. 7 HP is muchos. Also Keleseth makes it a 4/8 which is insane.
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted March 27, 2018 03:49 PM |
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Let's be honest guys we found the reveal underwhelming.
Personally I am not totally into the flavour of this set. Maybe the amount of awesome Worgens can change my mind. Though it is not one of my favorite races.
Seen the new cards?
Two rush cards. I have a hard time figuring out how strong rush is. The past have shown some pretty horrible cards with rush .. so I am not impressed and not excited.
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted March 27, 2018 07:08 PM |
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first really strong card just got announced - Lord Godfrey; looks like warlock keeps getting stronger.
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted March 27, 2018 10:45 PM |
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For heavens sake how many board clears does Warlock need.
On a side note I rage quitted because I just got Cold Light Oracled to oblivion by a Rogue, yeah it is so much fun when I overdrew half my deck. All key cards. DIE ORACLE DIE, already ;P
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted March 28, 2018 07:59 AM |
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Hunting mastiff and forest guide are both underwhelming, i am starting to feel like this expansion is really weak.
Now that both warlocks legendaries have been shown it is fair to say that all classes will have an evil legendary ( monster/witch) and a good one ( monster hunter/hero).
So I guess from the names of what is to come I guess the mage legendaries are Toki the time tinkerer and Archmage Arugal; I think Darius Crowley and Splintergraft are the warrior legendaries; Chameleos might be druid;
The crystal Knight and Emeriss are the remaining 2 neutral ones; Puppet master Dorian seems like a priest legendary to me.
This leaves us with Countess Ashmore which could be paladin, could be priest, honestly she looks like the high templar li-ming skin from hots; she also appears to be a high elf, if that is of any importance.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted March 28, 2018 11:45 AM |
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We learned many times to not judge an expansion before it's released yet, but yeah, the notion of buying the pre-order is getting further away from me.
So far the expansion looks like traditional "give a few new mechanics and build most cards around them" while the mechanics are not that interesting to begin with.
Let's take Old Gods where you had 4 legendaries with each one giving a chance to build many decks around them. Even the 'boring' Y'Shaarj turned into one of the bases for the 'Big' archetype, and many months later it's still played. For now we have Even & Odd, but aside from that a few cards which will simply boost some archetypes. At least this is how it stands atm.
I think we will still get a few more 'changeling' cards, the idea of 'shapeshifting' cards like Pumpkin Peasant is rad, now we need a neutral Legendary which will let you choose the 'form'. Maybe it will even be a base for 'shapeshift' decks?
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