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DagothGares
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted March 25, 2015 11:20 PM |
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"Come on, guys, now he almost isn't strictly better than war golem."
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If you have any more questions, go to Dagoth Cares.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted March 25, 2015 11:24 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 23:27, 25 Mar 2015.
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DagothGares said:
Yeah, the only thing I hear of rogue is like the "oil rogue" that I ve never seen and has never beaten me.
I've met him a couple of times, but never seen it's main "Deckhand" combo in action. Personally I find it to tricky and situational to play. When Oil Rouge defeats me it's usually because of Blade Flurry. It's the perfect board clear, cause not only it easily gets to 7 dmg (so even more deadly then Flamestrike) plus face dmg... jeez...
And damn I recently stumbled upon a few Facehunters. God, their even more irritating then Huntertaker (which I haven't played for quite some time btw).
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted March 25, 2015 11:37 PM |
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Edited by Minion at 23:48, 25 Mar 2015.
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Oh you arena player xD I face them every day and more importantly - they face me. Remember when you complained about Mind Control being OP? I promise you, you have never had a more dead card in your hand. Never. ;P
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"These friends probably started using condoms after having produced the most optimum amount of offsprings. Kudos to them for showing at least some restraint" - Tsar-ivor
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted March 26, 2015 12:06 AM |
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Actually I didn't play Arena for quite some time now. Well nowadays I play only a couple of duels just to finish my daily quests. Nothing more...
Mind Control is always a dead card in my hand, Arena or not. It being a dead card is one of the reasons why I hate Priest. Only my opponents always find a way to tantalize me with it (I wonder why do they ALWAYS have it in their hand, and they're not even topdecking...) I usually have a hard time with Priests while when I play this class I have so many dead cards in hand it's ridiculous. I probably should craft at least one Cabal Priest, but because I don't play this class why should I even waste dust on it.
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JotunLogi
Known Hero
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posted March 26, 2015 05:28 AM |
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The problem with mind control is that it does not fit meta- it is absoulte garbage against rushy decks (hunter, often shaman, rogue, zoolock)
It s really good in control- but we rarely see druid with stronger cards, generally the one with combos and shades. Also rarely have seen handlock. Freeze mage- counting on sniping Antonidas or dr Boom. But still mind controlling dr boom is just inefficient,,,, The only class against whom mind control is decent s warrior right now 
Although I like this card in Arena, using it s often luxury.
And as one of pro players has said on his stream (not remember who- maybe Tides, maybe Amaz)- there is no possibility to create decent Priest deck that could compete both control and rush (what can do hunters, warriors, rogues, druids and mages)- priest has to choose.
And generally the only class that priest has decent chance is hunter, with all other it is quite hard to beat them- especially pal.
Yeah, I also want the return of Deathwing- really like this card, it is so weird. One of few cards that can really completely reverse the game and is sooo gamechanging! The problem is that blizzard is doing everything to make the game even more aggresive- and by that, even faster and quicker. If someone wants to play Deathwing- than he can play ancestral call with Shaman (who will be sad not getting Malygos) or just simply pray to get him out of the legendary Shredder
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted March 26, 2015 08:10 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 08:19, 26 Mar 2015.
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JotunLogi said:
If someone wants to play Deathwing- than he can play ancestral call with Shaman (who will be sad not getting Malygos) or just simply pray to get him out of the legendary Shredder
Or maybe we will get that "Dragon" Voidcaller to fish him out? That would be badass  I have a feeling that after BRM he will get the attention in the style of what Alexstrasza got after GvG...
And the thing about Priest is that though everyone says (yet again, cause he had a bit of a renaissance with Vol'jin) that it's a bad class, I hate playing against them to the point I think of auto-conceding when I see them (play for 15 minutes, cause with Priest it always takes that long, only to find I will loose anyway). Can it be because I have a few "fat minions" in my Druid deck for instance But let's not make a big deal of it, nowadays there are more troublesome classes, and I don't see Priests that much.
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JotunLogi
Known Hero
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posted March 26, 2015 07:56 PM |
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http://www.gosugamers.net/hearthstone/news/30388-master-of-blackrock-nefarian-revealed
Nefarian seems to be just insanely strong and so fun to play!
Also his 6/6 dragon sounds to be very powerful!
Well, with those cards I am really hyped, those are just coool!!!
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted March 26, 2015 11:01 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 23:28, 26 Mar 2015.
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Howly Crabapple!
I would have never guessed Nefarians ability. Not only he fits into any deck, he also has an ability that is great in meta, cause he fills your hand with additional (and practically always useful) cards. I wonder if Secrets are counted as possible spells. Sick!
Draconid Crusher seems OP. Not only is he an answer for that pesky Alexstrasza, he's practically an answer to every deck, especially rush decks. A 6/6 minion is solid already, and he can easily be made 9/9. That's even better then most Legendaries! New Arena master!
Volcanic Drake. Imagine a Flamestrike plus him. By the Gods! He's only downside is that 4 HP, but cheap threat/pressure it is...
EDIT: Oh, and a nice combo with Unleash the Hounds. Oh Hunter, how much better can you get?
These cards have really made BRM valid and a must-have...
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted March 26, 2015 11:13 PM |
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The funny thing about this wing was that I got some throwbacks to doing that raid in WoW and how I enjoyed a few of those boss encounters. They were quite fun, and I cannot wait to redo them in a Hearthstone setting. Quite exciting.
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JotunLogi
Known Hero
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posted March 27, 2015 08:02 AM |
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http://www.hearthpwn.com/
lack Mountain will be available to play in Europe 3rd april!
yeeah Neffarian will be cool and just fun to play... but I doubt that he will be good enough to shake the scene
sa he stands now, he can get into some control or some specific deck- but at the same time he must replace some of current cards....
for hunter he is just too costly and at the same time does not offer immediate threat as dr Boom (to be frankly- no one will replace dr boom, same ragnaros- they are just too good immediately); for warrior- it is hard to drop out any card and Neffarian does not give any synergy; same rogue, besides rogue tends to be rather fast and rushy; same warlocks- neither zoo nor handlock does not need Neffarian
I think that mage, priest and druid can achieve some success with Neffarian- hope to be wrong
Draconid crusher seems strong but I would say in arena- not for construceted unless dragons will be a real thing. For rushers he is too costly, when enemy has 15 points- it s the time to make fatal wound or eliminate him, not to put big dude. Besides, he then is vurnerable to Big game hunter. at this point rogue tries to kill enemy with weapon and charges (oil ogue), hunter with kill command and charges, zoo with everything, druid with combo... For control he is just body without any significant impact like sylvanna, dr boom and so. And control tends to rather slowly fight so it will take quite a time to lower the enemy to 15 points
Honestly, I see draconid crusher as bulderfist ogre- just weaker early and stronger in later stages- but at the same time with some weaknesses.
I will try him for sure- but do not know if he will fit 
volcanic dragon can be nice, especially in mage and pally cause they can quite effectively clear the board.
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted March 27, 2015 09:32 AM |
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I am pretty hyped 
The Dragons are gonna find a way into my deck no matter what, lol, good bye Shredder welcome Hungry Dragon! Ok I'll have them both
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"These friends probably started using condoms after having produced the most optimum amount of offsprings. Kudos to them for showing at least some restraint" - Tsar-ivor
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted March 27, 2015 10:46 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 10:49, 27 Mar 2015.
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Better get my hands on that goldz... just as I calculated I'll have enough for three wings plus a little bit for the fourth one. Until week 5 I should at least be able to grind enough for that fourth wing, plus a part of the fifth (with Nefarian probably :> ). The problem is that aside from daily quests I have to have enough time to play those wings, cause I don't want to see those other Hearthstone basterds playing with cards I didn't yet unlock (like it was with Naxx)
Blackwing + Nefarian (topdeck) combo? Will probably be too slow to actually happen, but hey, there are some crazy things going on in Hearthstone, especially late game when topdecking get's real I wonder if there will be a "summon Dragons" card...
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted March 27, 2015 11:15 AM |
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Yeahhh, I got the daily quest win 5 with Paladin or Warrior. I literally am the worst with these haha. I dislike the Paladin for starters, so that annoying class is out. So I need to try to make Warrior work and it just doesn't lol. Except against Hunter, don't really fully understand why this match up seems so favoured. It can't be just the Armor up! can it?
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"These friends probably started using condoms after having produced the most optimum amount of offsprings. Kudos to them for showing at least some restraint" - Tsar-ivor
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted March 27, 2015 11:46 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 11:51, 27 Mar 2015.
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@Minion
The problem with facing Control Warrior is that once he starts producing that armor like crazy, there's no way to break through it (especially if he manages to remove most of your cheap minions with his tricks). But like you, I just can seem to be able to play this class right (though I win some duels from time to time with a Charged Worgen etc). Also, it's funny because I still don't have even one Shieldmaiden, a CW's staple card
If you're having trouble with playing Paladin try mechs. Just recently I had a 5-0 daily quest run with my Mech-Paladin deck. He's got some good cards to fuel those mechs up, like Noble Sacrifice to save that Mechwarper plus Avenge to insta-boost one of your other minions. Not to mention all those Blessings of Kings etc. Oh and Coghmammer is great, though it's not that much mech-oriented. And Pallies got one of the best 2 mana drops, that always brings trouble: Shielded Minibot. There were many games in which I boosted him up with Noble Sacrifice+Avange for a 5/4 minion with Divine Shield and believe me it usually becomes davastating for my opponents in early game. I even run the unpopular Cobalt Guardian in this deck with great effect (it's funny when Dr. Boom triggers his "create bubble" ability two times in a row ). Only Pallies Hero power does not quite fit this theme, but oh well a minion is a minion if you have nothing else to play. I've had Sneed in this deck for some time, but he's no fun without Reincarnate
PS: My dream? To have Deathwing, Onyxia and Nefarian in one deck I would call this deck "A family with issues"
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JotunLogi
Known Hero
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posted March 27, 2015 06:03 PM |
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I hope that the first wng will be for free as it was with Naxxramas...
Family issues- cool idea for deck 
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted March 27, 2015 09:18 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 09:37, 28 Mar 2015.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted March 28, 2015 03:59 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 16:00, 28 Mar 2015.
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@emilsn91 your one of the reasons I decided to buy BRM with real money Now either of us is not alone in this madness.
The problem arose when it became clear that I'll have a lot of work in my job in the coming weeks, so grinding is out of question, I can only hope for some time to at least unlock those new cards...
Looking at that pile of gold that I've collected so far and calculating how much it'll take me to grind the rest versus how much free time I have, it appeared that I'm in a pinch. One can ask, why don't you wait a bit and unlock it later? Unfortunately one does not simply walk into new meta without BRM (oh, and DRAGONS!)... Also, in general, it seems that it's better to spend that 3500 gold for packs, it's just a little bit more profitable.
Bah, Easter is coming, one has to give himself a present Judge me all you want, I'm naive and fell into one of Blizzards traps (Secrets)
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JotunLogi
Known Hero
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posted March 28, 2015 08:21 PM |
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yeah, You are right, each wing must be bought in order to be available to play
I soemwhat can wait 2 days for remaining cards and almost week in order to paly this expansion, still much gold thhere is to gather
Last remaning cards should be 3 legendaries and some epics cause so far none of them was revealed.... and rather all of them would be neutral cards (cause rather alll classes will have one rare and one common)
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted March 28, 2015 11:17 PM |
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So, I've spent my gold on packs, half were Classic, half GvG.
...Sneed...mmm...okay...got one...
...Dr. Boom...WHAT THE F*CK!
Goddamit two Legendaries and two I've already had! What lousy luck...
...all right...last pack...DEATHWING!
I'm in a loss of words. I mean three Legendaries in 20 pack is highly above avarage, but then again I don't have that many of them so why the doubles?
As you can see, on one hand I'm angry, but then again, I did get that Deathwing. I know he's a very tricky card, but truth be told I've always wanted him, practically since the beginning. And I think he'll be perfect for the upcoming BRM (it's such a coincidence it's not even funny ). Hmm, I'll try to incorporate him into some of my decks for now and see how he plays out. On those rare cases my opponents played him he won them the game...
I wonder how I should spend that extra dust... hmm, maybe Onyxia to make that "Family with issues" deck
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JotunLogi
Known Hero
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posted March 29, 2015 09:18 AM |
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Congratulations for the ratio!
well, it is said that You already possess those cards... but at the same time You have got absolutely the best legendaries in GvG. I personally do not have dr Boom and would use it instead most other cards. Sneed- same although he is rather just fun to play cards (dr Boom is 'must have' card)
Deathwing is cool and fn to play but weird form of salvation and changing the game, otherwise bad in constructed. Really few class can make use of him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4ePfdU-v4Y
he is popular streamer that every day releases a video about hearthstone, fun to watch. Also recommend trump (imo they have the best Youtube about hearthstone. ther streams are fun to watch but there are more pro players... but less entertaining)
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