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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 03, 2015 08:53 PM |
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ChrisD1 said:
But as it happens with most homophobics being secretly gay,verikker might buy this game and play in the dark with his door closed.and post here as dis_irae or smth 
Lmao 
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted September 03, 2015 08:54 PM |
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Call me a fanboy if you want. Some of the radical members here already did and still do. But now I will tell you my opinion why H7 will be better than H6.
At the time of H6 I was a lot more vocal here on the forums. The reason why I am not anymore is known. Several times during H7 development I have been deeply disgusted, not by the game but by the fanbase.
The game right now has issues. It needs a lot of polish, balance and general love. But there is one thing the game even now does better than H6 has done. It has no feature that makes me go "WTF is this snow!"
You may dislike the skill system, the AC system or other new features but none of them are so glaringly bad as the prominent features of H6. I'm talking town conversion, spells implemented as skills, shared creature pool and the reduction of resources and lack of map objects. All this was what made H6 a bad game. Lack of randomness and focus on simple strategies.
H7 has none of this, ore anything else, that from it's outline kills the core heroes experience. It has skill system, that if used as random gives enough drive and variation. It has more content than H6 at its end, It supposedly should have RMG, SIM-turns and a powerful map making tool.
Those who think this game is not true to the Heroes formula are imho wrong, and those who see it as just a H6 update are not only blinnd, but also deaf and voiceless.
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I'm just a Mirror of your self.
We see, we look, we gather, we store, we teach.
We are many, and you can be one of us.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 03, 2015 08:57 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
But there is one thing the game even now does better than H6 has done. It has no feature that makes me go "WTF is this snow!"
Aptly refered to as being a mix of best of ^^
Honestly, that's just it. A collection of features that don't rub you the wrong way even if many could have been done much better.
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Sleeping_Sun
Promising
Famous Hero
Townscreen Architect
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posted September 03, 2015 09:13 PM |
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Kimarous said:
My overall interest with the Heroes series had fallen greatly since the days of Tribes of the East, and it was the potential of H7 that drew me back in again. I started playing H3 again, but I think I'm just not used to those games anymore. In fact, a lot of games from my childhood just don't click anymore. Every time I buy a game off GOG, I play it for an hour or so before losing my interest again. Happened with Heroes 3, happened with Quest for Glory, happened with Battle Chess. My tastes have changed, but nostalgia hooks me back in... for a short time. There are exceptions, like "Majesty: The Fantasy Kingdom Sim", but for the most part, I struggle to reinvest myself in a series I've more or less dropped... and that's what's happened with Heroes.
I understand that some games just don't click anymore. I no longer play H3 because it doesn't have H5 skill system, and some other stuff... But also, there's the fact that I had played only that game constantly for 9 years... I might be fed up with that game... However, despite the fact that the game might not be up to your taste doesn't mean that you should quit this place. That's my point.  There are other forum sections to dedicate your attention to if the game displeases you that much.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted September 03, 2015 09:59 PM |
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Kimarous said:
My overall interest with the Heroes series had fallen greatly since the days of Tribes of the East, and it was the potential of H7 that drew me back in again. I started playing H3 again, but I think I'm just not used to those games anymore. In fact, a lot of games from my childhood just don't click anymore. Every time I buy a game off GOG, I play it for an hour or so before losing my interest again. Happened with Heroes 3, happened with Quest for Glory, happened with Battle Chess. My tastes have changed, but nostalgia hooks me back in... for a short time. There are exceptions, like "Majesty: The Fantasy Kingdom Sim", but for the most part, I struggle to reinvest myself in a series I've more or less dropped... and that's what's happened with Heroes.
Eh, partially you may be correct. But there are still mods that can be downloaded to expand the experience.
Dave_Jame said:
You may dislike the skill system, the AC system or other new features but none of them are so glaringly bad as the prominent features of H6. I'm talking town conversion, spells implemented as skills, shared creature pool and the reduction of resources and lack of map objects. All this was what made H6 a bad game. Lack of randomness and focus on simple strategies.
H7 has none of this, ore anything else, that from it's outline kills the core heroes experience. It has skill system, that if used as random gives enough drive and variation. It has more content than H6 at its end, It supposedly should have RMG, SIM-turns and a powerful map making tool.
Those who think this game is not true to the Heroes formula are imho wrong, and those who see it as just a H6 update are not only blinnd, but also deaf and voiceless.
H6 has some things that never should've happened, yet still did. It was obligatory to put the features back in H7. However, there are still unseen and unexperienced horizons, allowing the game to thrive up a bit. For example, we got the mage guilds back, but they are level 4 only; so why not updating them to level 6? Or having new skills to enhance the gameplay (skills only, since there are some abilities that are new).
My point is that there are things in H7 that make them worthwhile to check out, but some just seem crude, not expanded enough, as if they are just taken from previous games and adapted to the engine, but not improved. Like some reported, during the sieges, the hero can get some reinforcements - that's the improvement what one could use.
Basically, this is a Heroes game, but with some unupgraded features. Heroes V had a lot of improvements (compared to Heroes III), yet it was made 10 years ago. Heroes VII also has some upgrades, but there aren't that many, to enhance gameplay.
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted September 03, 2015 10:22 PM |
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ChrisD1 said:
But as it happens with most homophobics being secretly gay,verikker might buy this game and play in the dark with his door closed.and post here as dis_irae or smth
nah, definitely not buying such a lame product but in the spirit of redemption for my pre-order of Heroes 6, I will be donating €60 to various German homeless shelters to help support the soon-to-be-insolvent employees and families of Limbic lol
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted September 03, 2015 10:59 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
The game right now has issues. It needs a lot of polish, balance and general love. But there is one thing the game even now does better than H6 has done. It has no feature that makes me go "WTF is this snow!"
The game is better than H6 in pretty much every aspect. It's also worse than H5 in pretty much every aspect. Which sums up pretty much all of what I have to say.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted September 04, 2015 12:21 AM |
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verriker said:
nah, definitely not buying such a lame product but in the spirit of redemption for my pre-order of Heroes 6, I will be donating �60 to various German homeless shelters to help support the soon-to-be-insolvent employees and families of Limbic lol
WHAT??????you had preordered heroes 6??????i m so sorry! Damn... I had bought it on launch with money i currently didn't exactly had. Damn them for h6:/ i still believe h7 (for me and how i play) is fine. Not perfect but in a better path than heroes 6. And that is good in my books.
Btw lol! Like seriously, those devs dont know whats coming for them
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TD
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted September 04, 2015 05:26 AM |
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I wouldn't even go as far as saying h7 is better than h6 in all that many areas.
h6 ability fest > h7 ability deficiency
h6 boss battles > h7 generic battles
h6 too deep color-scheme > h7 plain and boring colors
h6 skill-system > restricted h7 system
h6 racial/tear&blood > h7 racials
h6 horridmagic-system < h7 magic system
h6 3d-models > h7 copy-pasted models
h6 designs > h7 totally over the top designs
h6 single rare < h7 4 rares
h6 town-builder > h7 builder(too cheap, too many requirements)
h6 unique buildings > h7 buildings(many shared between other factions)
h6 TS = h7
h6 hero specializations/dynasty > h7 even more generic specs
h6 global creature pool < h7 local pool(+caravans)
h6 creature 3-tier -system < h7 5-tier -system
h6 conflux < h7 one-time activation
Overall that much better than h6. Granted different things have different value, some are more game-breaking than others. And as Alci said it doesn't really beat h5 in anything(important at least)
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted September 04, 2015 08:11 AM |
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It s in the middle indeed,like story-wise yet if it gets the same treatmeant as TotE,or at least some basic polishing,it would be a good game. And that's really it. Maybe still lower than heroes 5 ,but that doesn't automatically make it complete trash like some people here make it out to be! A good game. Not phenomenal, but good.I'll pay 30 euros for it. (Found retailer).
Calm yo tits at last! All i see is excuses to complain -.-
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Hunters11
Tavern Dweller
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posted September 04, 2015 10:11 AM |
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H6
h6 ability < h7 ability
h6 boss battles < h7 generic battles
h6 too deep color < h7 tone down colors
h6 skill-system < h7 skills-system
h6 racial/tear&blood < h7 racials
h6 horridmagic-system < h7 magic system
h6 3d-models = h7 copy-pasted models
h6 designs < h7 designs
h6 single rare < h7 4 rares
h6 town-builder < h7 interesting builder
h6 unique buildings < h7 variety buildings
h6 TS < h7
h6 hero specializations/dynasty = h7 even more generic specs
h6 global creature pool = h7 local pool(+caravans)
h6 creature 3-tier -system < h7 5-tier -system
h6 conflux < h7 one-time activation
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted September 04, 2015 10:43 AM |
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One thing H7 can beat H6 in, and even h5, is the story. H5's was abysmaly bad, H6 was comfusing and badly told, H7 has an easy game in this field.
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I'm just a Mirror of your self.
We see, we look, we gather, we store, we teach.
We are many, and you can be one of us.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted September 04, 2015 10:44 AM |
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Hardly something that would be worthy of praise
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It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that the cis are at it again.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted September 04, 2015 11:20 AM |
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H5 was kind of entertaining in its own...interesting way.
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hahakocka
Known Hero
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posted September 04, 2015 11:44 AM |
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h6 creature 3-tier -system < h7 5-tier -system
In H7 not the aame? Core-elite-champion. of course now there is a little stronger elit an core but that's not another fully new tier.
H5 hasa good story and cmapiang i think not better than H4 but good better than 6. I hope H7 story will be good as well.
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hahakocka
Known Hero
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posted September 04, 2015 11:56 AM |
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Sorry for the bad writings, i have just a break in the work place i need to write fast.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted September 04, 2015 12:26 PM |
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kiryu133 said:
Hardly something that would be worthy of praise
Urgash forbid if someone praises anything in here indeed!!
Heroes community praise-police at its best!
hahakocka said:
h6 creature 3-tier -system < h7 5-tier -system
In H7 not the same? Core-elite-champion. of course now there is a little stronger elit and core but that's not another fully new tier.
You are answering this one yourself. "cores" and "elites" are now just terms to make creature distinguishing easier.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted September 04, 2015 12:29 PM |
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Right, people are praising the game all over official Ubi forums + the blog as well.
It's not only HC, is people who don't want a bad or mediocre new installment, and thank god they're in majority.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted September 04, 2015 12:31 PM |
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Galaad said:
Right, people are praising the game all over official Ubi forums + the blog as well.
It's not only HC, is people who don't want a bad or mediocre new installment, and thank god they're in majority.
HC people is the majority of the fans of heroes franchise?
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted September 04, 2015 12:33 PM |
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Read again, this is not what I've been saying.
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