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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 24, 2015 06:25 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 18:25, 24 Jan 2015.
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JJ, just in your opinion since you might know more than us given you're an insider, are Erwan and his creative direction staff all insane? Why in the world did they practically give us H6 Necropolis 2.0 in spite of all the rage they got? Why the hell are they so bent on screwing the fans over with Ashan? Haven't we all made ourselves clear that those emo guitar vampires and non-skeletal liches high on crack are not the way to go?
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted January 24, 2015 06:30 PM |
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Edited by artu at 18:31, 24 Jan 2015.
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JollyJoker said:
frostymuaddib said:
Same here. The best Ashan Necro is in H5, imo.
Yup.
It's certainly more acceptable than H6 or H7 Necropolises which are basically more Dungeon than Necropolis but things like the green toxic theme and vampires with Voltran swords started out with it. Taking the risk of being blamed with nostalgia again, I'd still say H2 and H3 got the tone and concept drastically better and more accurate. Who on earth cares about the consistency of the plot of Ashan? It's a frigging video game ffs, the plot is endlessly open to modification.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted January 24, 2015 06:32 PM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 18:34, 24 Jan 2015.
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@Stevie,
Executives, mate.
You have to be insane to succeed as a developer, else you go mad.
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Hex
Adventuring Hero
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posted January 24, 2015 06:33 PM |
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verriker said:
Hex said:
What new face does he think of? About new textures promised by Marzhin?
the color changes they did (which must have taken them a mighty two minutes of effort in Photoshop, the poor dears) are the "new" textures, pal
I hope you are wrong and we will get decent improvement to what we have know. If not maybe the pressure on official blog will make to do so.
Btw, That face on your avatar frightens me. 
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted January 24, 2015 06:36 PM |
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I hope I am wrong too, but unfortunately I'm not lol
Hex said:
Btw, That face on your avatar frightens me.
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Hex
Adventuring Hero
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posted January 24, 2015 06:41 PM |
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verriker said:
I hope I am wrong too, but unfortunately I'm not lol
Hex said:
Btw, That face on your avatar frightens me.
This one even more. 
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 24, 2015 06:46 PM |
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Stevie said:
JJ, just in your opinion since you might know more than us given you're an insider, are Erwan and his creative direction staff all insane? Why in the world did they practically give us H6 Necropolis 2.0 in spite of all the rage they got? Why the hell are they so bent on screwing the fans over with Ashan? Haven't we all made ourselves clear that those emo guitar vampires and non-skeletal liches high on crack are not the way to go?
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It has to be a trick! They sacrificed Necropolis, so that the other factions will look like pure gold now! Knowing that Necro fans are the most loyal ones who'll take any crap for the real thing, they picked that.
Sly basterds, those marketing guys.
As I said, "Insider" is a pretty misleading term these days. "We" didn't know more than you or anything sooner than you with regard on Necro line-up or looks.
If you read my comments, I don't like either line-up or looks of Necropolis, but on the other hand - it's Ashan, and you get a name, but a completely different content.
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Darkem
Known Hero
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posted January 24, 2015 07:11 PM |
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Quote:
Ubi-Nox said:Hello guys, it seems that this post received a lot of likes in a very short period. We will investigate on Monday to see where the problem comes from and take appropriate decisions. Thank you for spotting this issue.
about the_spider_king's post at the mmh7 blog
Guys, I was off for few hours and I have no idea what are you writing about. What happen? Can anyone evoke the post?
Thanks in advance!
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted January 24, 2015 07:13 PM |
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It's still at the best comment section. Some dude wrote "#KTS- keep the spiders"
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Greenlore
Known Hero
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posted January 24, 2015 07:15 PM |
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Stevie said:
So they told us in advance that they're gonna feed us the same Heroes 6 crap again and that's supposed to cut it? I think they expect us to appreciate it too, right? The problem is not that they warned us, the problem is that they did it anyway in spite of all the criticism. Them just bringing excuses before the fact just proves that they knew they were at fault.
Here's something for you, and Erwan alike because he doesn't seem to get it either: I don't care about Ashan, I care about good creatures and good factions. In this case, Necropolis. The Ashan version is NOT what you expect a Necropolis to be. Not in the slightest. Not in the lore since they're just a bunch of outcast overzealous heretics worshiping a Spider image, not in the creatures that look nothing alike undead, with some exceptions. Take this one for instance:
Tell me just ONE feature that connects this creature with the idea of a vampire. I dare you take this test: show this to someone in your house who doesn't play video games and ask him/her what he/she believes it represents. I took it with my mom and she said "knight with sword".
And excuse me, but Heroes 5 Necropolis was tons better than this Heroes 6 recycle. That's one of the reason it was declared non-canon.
If you can accept the franchise being compromised because of someone's Ashan crap then you have low standards. I won't accept this forced snow and I will be a critic about it since they target me as a potential buyer. If they don't want to listen then they can take their product and shove it down their butt holes.
The thing is that the "beautiful vampire"-type is nowadays actually much more common than the "nosferatu"-type
Giving them swords is most likely just a way to prevent their attacks from looking awkward(because a biting animation or something like that wouldn't really translate well into 3d),which is why we get vampire knights instead of regular vampires.
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Darkem
Known Hero
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posted January 24, 2015 07:18 PM |
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Edited by Darkem at 19:20, 24 Jan 2015.
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@LizardWarrior
Oh, thanks. I see no problem with spiders. IMO the only problem is reuse of old models...
@Up
Beautiful vampire is somehow part of Heroes tradition. Only ugly - Nosferatu type - vampire we ever got was in H3. The only problem with H6's model of vampire is the sword. If it was a little bit smaller... Just a little bit!
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted January 24, 2015 07:47 PM |
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It doesnt have to be the Nosferatu type, clean cut aristocrat with cape will also do if it's done well but a vampire should look like a vampire. And saying a bite attack will be hard to implement in 3D (hence the sword) doesnt really make any sense, people pulled off much harder things in 3D. If you're going to put a vampire that doesnt look like one and that doesnt attack like one, why put him in the line up at all? Just put a mummy or zombie instead.
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted January 24, 2015 07:48 PM |
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Edited by Wellplay at 19:51, 24 Jan 2015.
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H5 vampires where nearly the same looking, beside 1 thing which was the pointy cape.
Cape which we can see in many movies with vampires and i didn't see such rage.
Let's just wait for upgrade update, which might make them look exactly how "harsh critics" want them.
Same thing with Liches.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 24, 2015 07:56 PM |
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As far as I'm concerned I prefer Nosferatu types but I do see the possibility for Count vampires as well. But not these ones. Let's be clear, a unit with a sword and teleporting moves would be cool in some other circumstances, not calling it "vampire" and expect us to fall for it, lol.
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted January 24, 2015 07:57 PM |
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Well, I already said I see H5 as the beginning of problematic vampire looks, anyway. 2, 3, 4... I'm fine with.
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted January 24, 2015 07:58 PM |
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Wellplay said:
H5 vampires where nearly the same looking, beside 1 thing which was the pointy cape.
Cape which we can see in many movies with vampires and i didn't see such rage.
Let's just wait for upgrade update, which might make them look exactly how "harsh critics" want them.
Same thing with Liches.
There is one tiny detail that made them look more "vampirish" - fangs. In Heroes V they were clearly visible and although they also had huge blades like ones in Heroes VI, those two excessively big teeth makes them looks like vampires. In Heroes VI only their name suggested their nature.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted January 24, 2015 08:00 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 20:01, 24 Jan 2015.
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artu said:
It doesnt have to be the Nosferatu type, clean cut aristocrat with cape will also do if it's done well but a vampire should look like a vampire. And saying a bite attack will be hard to implement in 3D (hence the sword) doesnt really make any sense, people pulled off much harder things in 3D.
Yeah or take the Vacuum Vampire from H4 for instance He does not need to bite in order to suck your blood out 
BTW either Ubi just forced it on them just recently or the reveal of Necro was postponed cause they wanted to reduce the shock and flaming by showing some other factions first, but it's kinda strange that it took them so long to reveal a faction which is practically a recycle-fest...
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted January 24, 2015 08:01 PM |
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i can understand biting being hard to do in a 3d TBS. But vampires never bit anyone, did they? they just clawed, at least that what it looked like to me and while i'm no expert, i can't imagine that being much harder than a sword-swipe.
and the h7 vampire is pretty pale. I mean that's some connection to vampirism. right?
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shadowdust
Hired Hero
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posted January 24, 2015 08:05 PM |
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artu said:
And saying a bite attack will be hard to implement in 3D (hence the sword) doesnt really make any sense, people pulled off much harder things in 3D.
Harder to see, because most of the time units are only as big as your finger tip.
I like sword, give him wider range to slash his enemy.
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted January 24, 2015 08:06 PM |
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Pawek_13 said:
There is one tiny detail that made them look more "vampirish" - fangs. In Heroes V they were clearly visible and although they also had huge blades like ones in Heroes VI, those two excessively big teeth makes them looks like vampires. In Heroes VI only their name suggested their nature.
Where they really visible? 
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