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Stormcaller
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posted October 18, 2014 10:36 PM |
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Who even said that we need mounted cyclops as a hero, it could be an actual champion unit choice!
Geez, a huge Cyclop riding on a even bigger Olyphant. Now that would be freaking sweet.
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NACHOOOO
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Pessimistically optimistic
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posted October 20, 2014 09:45 AM |
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Do you know what really grinds my gears? It's BS that Stronghold heroes could use light magic spells like Heal on their army in H6. They're half demon! At the very best spells like heal should do nothing. To top it off if you use heal against enemy Stronghold creatures then it hurt them. No consistency.
They're not meant to be the best spellcasters so I reckon give them limited prime magic, and don't give them light magic at all. What they should have is more earth and air spells. Mother earth and Father sky and all that. That would make the most sense to me. Probably not in the right thread but there it is. Rant completed
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted October 20, 2014 09:50 AM |
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NACHOOOO said:
Do you know what really grinds my gears? It's BS that Stronghold heroes could use light magic spells like Heal on their army in H6. They're half demon! At the very best spells like heal should do nothing. To top it off if you use heal against enemy Stronghold creatures then it hurt them. No consistency.
They're not meant to be the best spellcasters so I reckon give them limited prime magic, and don't give them light magic at all. What they should have is more earth and air spells. Mother earth and Father sky and all that. That would make the most sense to me. Probably not in the right thread but there it is. Rant completed
Yes they are half demon, but also half human, so that's why they got both Light and dark. On the other hand they aren't creations of gods, and something alien to the world. That is why they do not have access to prime.
But that was just H6. H5 did them a lot better. Hope they will be more on that line in H7
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Danny
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posted November 15, 2014 08:25 AM |
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Bumping this so new Stronghold related threads can be closed.
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Danny
Famous Hero
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posted January 24, 2015 08:56 AM |
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This post by Marzhin from January 20 should make everyone hopeful. 
Actually the H7 Stronghold has almost nothing in common with its H6 counterpart. It is also totally awesome.
But I won't say anything more about that particular topic
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted January 24, 2015 09:01 AM |
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Danny said:
This post by Marzhin from January 20 should make everyone hopeful.
Actually the H7 Stronghold has almost nothing in common with its H6 counterpart. It is also totally awesome.
But I won't say anything more about that particular topic
The steppe orcs and the Pao Islands orcs were nothing alike; I'd certainly hope the Sahaar orcs were distinct as well. 
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properkheldar
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Keeper of books
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posted January 24, 2015 09:49 AM |
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I have this feeling that they could be planning an homage to fortress from H3 through the sahaar orcs, something like this:
Core
1. Gnoll
2. Harpy
3. Orc
Elite
1. Basilisk rider
2. Centaur
3. Wyvern (perhaps with shaman rider?)
Champion
1. Cyklops (or something new, with cyklops as siege)
2. Behemoths
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Darkem
Known Hero
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posted January 24, 2015 12:24 PM |
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Edited by Darkem at 12:28, 24 Jan 2015.
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I expect to see a fresh twist in Stronghold's lineup. Few old-new units and new roles for our favorites.
Desert Stronghold
Strengths:
Good stats (high attack and hp).
Good morale.
Weakness:
Only 1 (possibly 2) ranged creatures.
CORE
Goblin Jester -> Goblin Quack
Role: Support
Description: If you're week and cowardly and want to survive in a society praising only might there is only one way to survive. Be useful. Make fun and don't pose a threat. Goblin Jesters mimic wizards and practice basic magic. Sometimes called Shamans, Goblin Quacks know how to use simple magic tricks to support their allies.
Abilities: Upgrade: Half-Blood Luck – increase luck of friendly creature.
Gnoll -> Gnoll Raider
Role: Damage
Description: Once, gladiators on sky cities' arenas, now free people roaming deserts and hunting down caravans. Tradesmen of Seven Cities have no nightmares but one, the one full of gnoll yelp.
Abilities: Yelp – activated ability. Target enemy unit to decrease its morale. Upgrade: Pack - Extra 20% damage if adjacent to another friendly unit.
Harpy -> Harpy Hag
Role: Damage
Description: Harpies were one of the most beautiful beastmen created by wizards. Only mermaids could compete with them in beauty, but everything have changed when beastmen rebellion started. Free harpies from Sahara Desert disfigure themselves as a sign of contempt and hatred towards wizards deeds. Now, they are one of the most horrifying living creatures in Ashan.
Abilities: - Harpy: NO STRIKE & RETURN. Hatred towards Academy units. Upgrade: Death from above (no idea for better name) – Harpy Hag can catch 1 friendly 1 square unit and move it over obstacles (rocks, water, even city walls).
ELITE
Lizard Rider -> Basilisk Rider
Role: Damage
Description: Humans tamed fierce wolves and made them into obedient dogs. Orcs tamed dangerous desert lizards and made them into petrifying Basilisks.
Abilities: Leap. Upgrade: 25% to paralyze enemy for 2 turns.
Crusher -> Berserker
Role: Damage
Description: Some of the Orcs who decide to loose control over their bodies and become avatars of revenge during the battle are known as Crushers. Those who were consumed by it are known as Berserkers - ultimate warriors.
Abilities: Extremely good stats. Player has no control over unit. Upgrade: No retaliation. Mind control immunity.
Centaur -> Centaur Skirmisher
Role: Ranged Damage
Description: Closest allies of Orcs... No explanation needed.
Abilities: No melee penalty. Upgrade: Mobile shooter.
CHAMPIONS
Behemoth -> Ancient Behemoth
Role: Tank
Description: One of the most feared creatures of Saahar Desert. It is said that their creation predates foundation destruction of Shantiri Empire. Nothing is certain, but many believes that Behemoths are guardians of mythical valley in the heart of Saahar Desert. This valley, became a refugee point for Orc tribe.
Abilities: No enemy retaliation. Suffers causalities at the start of the next turn. Upgrade: Regeneration. Can attack city walls.
Cyclops -> Blood Cyclops
Role: Damage (upgrade: Ranged)
Description: Huge, oversized wizard's creation. Cyclops had no right to survive the experiments, but they were too dumb to know about it.
Abilities: Immune to mind control spells and abilities. Upgrade: Death stare, Cyclops can attack unit in its line of sight (with laser beam ).
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cleglaw
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posted January 24, 2015 01:45 PM |
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Edited by cleglaw at 13:47, 24 Jan 2015.
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i wonder if they also use recycled orcs, centaurs, goblins, cyclops in this one.
and since every facton has an animal(too much game of thrones eh?)
i assume we get one animal in stronghold line-up too.
my guess is some kind of cat, maybe panther.
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted January 24, 2015 02:02 PM |
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cleglaw said:
i wonder if they also use recycled orcs, centaurs, goblins, cyclops in this one.
Marzhin said:
Actually the H7 Stronghold has almost nothing in common with its H6 counterpart. It is also totally awesome.
But I won't say anything more about that particular topic 
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Greenlore
Known Hero
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posted January 24, 2015 03:45 PM |
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Darkem said:
ELITE
Lizard Rider -> Basilisk Rider
Role: Damage
Description: Humans tamed fierce wolves and made them into obedient dogs. Orcs tamed dangerous desert lizards and made them into petrifying Basilisks.
Abilities: Leap. Upgrade: 25% to paralyze enemy for 2 turns.
I'd actually hope for the ashan version of heroes to make basilisk into badass champion creatures(not necessarily for the orcs though),I mean the basilisk is considered to be the king of the snakes and to have extremely potent poison on top of it having a literal death-stare,making it one of the deadliest creatures among mythological creatures.
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Stormcaller
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posted January 24, 2015 04:07 PM |
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I guess we can expect stronghold core creatures reveal soon? in a week or two max.
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted January 24, 2015 04:12 PM |
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Stormcaller said:
I guess we can expect stronghold core creatures reveal soon? in a week or two max.
Based on what? Because we just got Necro?
Ain't much to go on. Especially considering how much time they'll have to fill before beta/release.
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Stormcaller
Famous Hero
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posted January 24, 2015 08:15 PM |
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Dont know. It was more wisful thinking than anything else.
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted January 27, 2015 10:42 AM |
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I am getting old and do not want things to change
To be everything would be perfect if the line-up were something like this::
Core:
Goblin - Goblin with armor (and no coward thingy)
Wolf Rider - Wolf Rider with armor
Ranged unit - either classic hoMM3 orc or centaur
Elite:
Caster Either classic Blood Lust Orc or Shaman - Bigger badder caster
Wyvern or Thunderbird - Bigger Wyvern or bigger thunderbird
Warrior type (HoMM5 and 6) - bigger warrior
Champion:
Behemoth - Ancient Behemoth
Ranged Cyclops - Ranged Cyclops, but stronger (Homm3+Homm5-6)
I do not like change.. I just want a tweeked HoMM3 version pls.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted January 27, 2015 10:48 AM |
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I can definitely see the Wolf-Rider be a thing in a future line-up, especially since they already have a Wolf model for the Haven faction.
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 27, 2015 04:57 PM |
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted January 27, 2015 06:23 PM |
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xerox said:
I want a Hyena Rider.
and now so do i
+1
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Steyn
Supreme Hero
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posted January 28, 2015 09:07 AM |
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Edited by Steyn at 09:07, 28 Jan 2015.
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Now that skeletons are back to being melee units, maybe the sahaar skirmisher will make its introduction in stronghold...
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Stormcaller
Famous Hero
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posted January 28, 2015 03:28 PM |
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Not really digging their design. Too lean and too " foxy " They feel like jackals who suddenly went bipedal and decided to throw spears.
I still want Oliphants or some other war beast.
- Behemoth 
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