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Steyn
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posted November 12, 2014 07:54 PM |
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Edited by Steyn at 19:57, 12 Nov 2014.
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So you take not widely known mythological, twist and change them to suit your purposes, and then sell them as the original. How is that different from the way D&D handles mythological creatures??
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Also i'd use the term troll for Fae Giants, I think you have the LOTR and D&D trolls too much in your head.
As will most of us, because these are the best known trolls in modern fantasy. If you mean Fae Giants, don't go calling them trolls. That way you will only confuse us less knowledgeable sods and create a wrong image of your favourite mythological beings.
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Sleeping_Sun
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posted November 12, 2014 09:00 PM |
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@Rakshasa92, your approach to this is totally wrong! On one hand, you are providing us with the potential fresh creatures, and for that thank you, it is nice to expand the knowledge of mythological creatures. On the other hand, your posts about the mythological creatures is so flawed and tainted by your personal invention and modification of existing myths, and for that I can only be abhorred!!!
It is one thing to present the mythological creatures of a nation (Slavic, Baltic, Mexican, Chinese, etc.) as they are, while it is another thing to present your own pseudo-mythical creatures which are your creation and which are only creating confusion.
In your post one cannot see where is the defining line of the true mythological creature and of your own invention.
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AIR/WIND: from Bulgarian mythology comes the demon-like Hala or Ala, these are wind elementals with a demonic spirit. They look like humanoid creatures made from wind with a whirlwind lowerbody. Their powers over wind are legendary.
WRONG!!!!
Ala/Hala is present in Bulgarian, Macedonian and Serbian mythology! Ala is usually invisible, she can change her shape but she doesn't keep it for long. In an area near Gruža, the people claim that she cannot be seen, but the thing that is perceptible to the men is the hail clouds (which is Ala/Hala) and her screeching as she gathers and moves the hail clouds. In Kosovo and Metohija, the people claim that you can see only her tail. When the storm arises, she lowers her tails and rips and takes everything what the people have planted, while her head remains in the clouds. Those who saw Ala's head become crazy. Near Leskovac, it is claimed that Ala has the head of a horse and snake-like body, which is made from the souls of those who had drowned, died too early/ before their time (this is maybe a bit faulty translation), and of the ones who are not satisfied in death(this is a bit faulty as well).
Ala in another region is huge, and from her screeching people become deaf. She can transform into a man, an animal or a tree, but then only the people with six fingers can recognise her. In short, she is embodiment of gluttony since she can drink 30 liters of milk per day! But her hunger is insatiable. Her enemies are Zmajevi (I think that the translation could be dragons, but not in the sense that it is seen in the Hobbit, since these beings are totally different from western notion of the dragons) and eagles.
There are also humans born with dual natures: human and ala natures. During the storms their souls are leaving their bodies and are leading the storm clouds devastating everything in their way. If they are wounded up in the sky (against these Zmaj creatures/Dragons [again not the dragon in the sense that we are used to] and eagles) their physical bodies will show these wounds as well. These people are called aloviti. There are also 'alosani ljudi' (alosan? men) who are under the influence of Ala - they are either crazy or they devour things beyond measure, as if Ala has possessed them.
For the rest of the creatures I did not even bother. You are most welcomed to share your knowledge of these (original mythological) creatures, but please DO NOT butcher the mythology of my people, it doesn't need to be improved in any way, it is fine as it is.
So, I would like to ask you nicely, please stop spreading false/incorrect info about these creatures. I still remember the last time you wrote that Vila is a storm spirit or something like that, which is not correct, since it is a generic name for a group/class of spirits.
In addition, if this pintrest page is yours: http://www.pinterest.com/sincubus1982/mythology-cryptid-monsters/
I would like to know why are you deliberately misleading people about these creatures, by providing them with false info (a quote from that site):
All these creatures come from myths and legends, but I added my own ideas. I'm sure you didn't knew about 80% of the monsters before, as most of them are very rarely used anywhere...
I'll provide a picture of Ala and already mentioned Zmaj creature as soon as I scan the book from which I took and translated the material.
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Protolisk
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posted November 12, 2014 09:09 PM |
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Rakshasa92 said:
+ My version of the antaeus,
Oh. I thought those were artwork of the beasts, for the intention of accurately showing the origin, not your vision of them. Never mind.
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Sleeping_Sun
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posted November 12, 2014 10:36 PM |
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Rakshasa92
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posted November 12, 2014 10:42 PM |
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Sleeping_Sun said:
In addition, if this pintrest page is yours: http://www.pinterest.com/sincubus1982/mythology-cryptid-monsters/
I would like to know why are you deliberately misleading people about these creatures, by providing them with false info (a quote from that site):
All these creatures come from myths and legends, but I added my own ideas. I'm sure you didn't knew about 80% of the monsters before, as most of them are very rarely used anywhere...
These are all my favorite Mythology monsters I would use in my own RPG. (much like Lufia) These would be the normal enemies in the game, the bosses and friends are left out. All these creatures come from myths and legends, but I added my own ideas. I'm sure you didn't knew about 80% of the monsters before, as most of them are very rarely used anywhere, but I like such strange monsters. Its a good mixture of all types of myths from all around the world with some cryptids added to the mix.
I'm sure you can read right? I even tell the people they are BASED on the myths, that pinterest page is for my own RPG and like HOMM, D&D and especially FInal Fantasy (I never heared anybody curse on that game, it takes a unicorn myth and turns it into a spider or fish) I use the basic concept of the creatures and mix it with some extra abilities and different looks, while 80% is the same as the myth some (like the Hala, which I used the PATHFINDER version off) of them are not.
The words I can use on pinterest are very limited but at first it also said: For the real discriptions of the monsters check Wiki or google, and most intelligent people will do that anyway.
+ That pinterest page isn't for the real discriptions, i'm still creating that one, but it takes a lot of time, mostly because ALL FREAKING PEOPLE give me different descriptions of the creatures so that it is all confusing to say the best.
I hate D&D because they never say they based creatures on the myths, they just act as if they are made by themselves. Like the Behir, the biggest example. That is different.
Most imporantly, Minotaurs aren't slaves of Dark Elves, and Medusa's aren't Naga's. So why the more obscure and rare mythology monsters MUST be 100% matched to their myths? And the known monsters can be changed?
You can't put the 100% myth in the game as that would be stupid, most creature are Unique creatures anyway, there is only one of them. You must always make them game-ready and suit the game with them. But I like to give people the names of the creatures so they can search the names on google/wiki and learn about them, at least they have the names then and some curious people do search it.
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Rakshasa92
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posted November 12, 2014 11:02 PM |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_beings_in_Slavic_folklore
Read this page about the Vila, there are more versions of vila.
The Vila are the Slavic versions of nymphs, who have power over wind, which they delight in causing storms of high winds. They live around hills, mountains, and high mounds. (cf. Leimakids, Limnades, Oceanids, Dryads, Nephele). They can appear as a ghost-like figure with a long billowing cloak wrapped around them.
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Sleeping_Sun
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posted November 12, 2014 11:30 PM |
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Rakshasa92 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_beings_in_Slavic_folklore
Read this page about the Vila, there are more versions of vila.
The Vila are the Slavic versions of nymphs, who have power over wind, which they delight in causing storms of high winds. They live around hills, mountains, and high mounds. (cf. Leimakids, Limnades, Oceanids, Dryads, Nephele). They can appear as a ghost-like figure with a long billowing cloak wrapped around them.
I know there are different types of creatures named Vila (in Serbian: brodarkinje, planinkinje, bazdarice, etc.) But not all of them have dominion over wind. Some have dominion over waters, clouds, etc. If you want a specific Vila, than you have to either name her by her name or at least name her type. You cannot say Vila is JUST a thunder spirit, she could be that according to her type, but she could also be something different. You also cannot change a creature/spirit because you like your version better. If you change it say this is MY creature that I based on this creature(s).
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Rakshasa92
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posted November 12, 2014 11:36 PM |
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Sleeping_Sun said:
Rakshasa92 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_beings_in_Slavic_folklore
Read this page about the Vila, there are more versions of vila.
The Vila are the Slavic versions of nymphs, who have power over wind, which they delight in causing storms of high winds. They live around hills, mountains, and high mounds. (cf. Leimakids, Limnades, Oceanids, Dryads, Nephele). They can appear as a ghost-like figure with a long billowing cloak wrapped around them.
I know there are different types of creatures named Vila (in Serbian: brodarkinje, planinkinje, bazdarice, etc.) But not all of them have dominion over wind. Some have dominion over waters, clouds, etc. If you want a specific Vila, than you have to either name her by her name or at least name her type. You cannot say Vila is JUST a thunder spirit, she could be that according to her type, but she could also be something different. You also cannot change a creature/spirit because you like your version better. If you change it say this is MY creature that I based on this creature(s).
I never see HOMM games do that to Gorgons, Minotaurs and Basilisk, so why do I have to do that?
I didn't use the serbian/bulgarian version of the Vila but the Slavic version. What's your point?
Mythological creatures are without copyright, you can do with them what you like, and I like some version of them made by other games (NOT D&D) and some versions I see in cartoons/movies and clips, others I really love the entire myth from like the Abaia and the Batibat, they are so cool, nothing has to be changed in my opinion.
The creatures I post here are wishes for my game-ready versions of them, which would suit HOMM, not a creature 100% as the myth, I don't want Antaeus to be a unique giant which only purpose is to fight Hercules, and I don't want Medusa to only fight few men and then have her head cut off to be used against the kraken, that is the mythology version, I need a good game version.
That post wasn't to learn people about the creatures, just what I like them to be in HOMM games. Some of them (like Rarog, Raiju, Cherufe and Will O Wisps) are correct 99% matches of their mytholigcal versions, others are based on game-versions, mostly Pathfinder/Paizo's bestairy versions, like the Hala and others i've been inspired by other people on Deviantart. I LIKE THOSE VERSIONS to be in HOMM, not some hala you described above.
If you hate it so much, just read the word Hala as Anemoi, another wind-like being, but from greek mythology. At first I had Hala/ala as hail-spirit, but after I found that picture I posted on the previous page I really liked the idea of turning Hala into a wind-being.
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Kimarous
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posted November 12, 2014 11:41 PM |
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If I might interrupt the war of the myth-hipsters here, could I request that those wishing to post gigantic images LINK to the gigantic images instead of posting them in the topic and screwing up everyone's formatting?
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RMZ1989
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posted November 12, 2014 11:41 PM |
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Edited by RMZ1989 at 23:45, 12 Nov 2014.
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I am Serbian, so if you need any help with translating I am here. 
And I have to disappoint you about some of the "creatures" and their names. Zmaj and Ala means one the same, and that is simply a Dragon... Now, sure they are obviously different than usual Dragons but every Dragon you see today is Zmaj on Serbian(Ala is rarely used, but still has the same meaning).
Nice to see some of the Serbian mythology here. ;D
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Rakshasa92
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posted November 12, 2014 11:54 PM |
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For your information SLeeping Sun, I changed the Hala/Ala into Anemoi, that is more fitting, Pathfinder had me a bit confused about the creature.
After learning about it's real appearance I'm not really interested in Hala/Ala anymore, doesn't really suit to my taste, too chaotic.
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Sleeping_Sun
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posted November 13, 2014 12:15 AM |
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Rakshasa92 said:
Sleeping_Sun said:
Rakshasa92 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_beings_in_Slavic_folklore
Read this page about the Vila, there are more versions of vila.
The Vila are the Slavic versions of nymphs, who have power over wind, which they delight in causing storms of high winds. They live around hills, mountains, and high mounds. (cf. Leimakids, Limnades, Oceanids, Dryads, Nephele). They can appear as a ghost-like figure with a long billowing cloak wrapped around them.
I know there are different types of creatures named Vila (in Serbian: brodarkinje, planinkinje, bazdarice, etc.) But not all of them have dominion over wind. Some have dominion over waters, clouds, etc. If you want a specific Vila, than you have to either name her by her name or at least name her type. You cannot say Vila is JUST a thunder spirit, she could be that according to her type, but she could also be something different. You also cannot change a creature/spirit because you like your version better. If you change it say this is MY creature that I based on this creature(s).
I never see HOMM games do that to Gorgons, Minotaurs and Basilisk, so why do I have to do that?
I didn't use the serbian/bulgarian version of the Vila but the Slavic version. What's your point?
Mythological creatures are without copyright, you can do with them what you like, and I like some version of them made by other games (NOT D&D) and some versions I see in cartoons/movies and clips, others I really love the entire myth from like the Abaia and the Batibat, they are so cool, nothing has to be changed in my opinion.
The creatures I post here are wishes for my game-ready versions of them, which would suit HOMM, not a creature 100% as the myth, I don't want Antaeus to be a unique giant which only purpose is to fight Hercules, and I don't want Medusa to only fight few men and then have her head cut off to be used against the kraken, that is the mythology version, I need a good game version.
That post wasn't to learn people about the creatures, just what I like them to be in HOMM games. Some of them (like Rarog, Raiju, Cherufe and Will O Wisps) are correct 99% matches of their mytholigcal versions, others are based on game-versions, mostly Pathfinder/Paizo's bestairy versions, like the Hala and others i've been inspired by other people on Deviantart. I LIKE THOSE VERSIONS to be in HOMM, not some hala you described above.
If you hate it so much, just read the word Hala as Anemoi, another wind-like being, but from greek mythology. At first I had Hala/ala as hail-spirit, but after I found that picture I posted on the previous page I really liked the idea of turning Hala into a wind-being.
You really don't get the point.
Minotaurs are still with the head of a bull, and they still dwell in labyrinth. They did not butcher him by adding him wings (because they like it), 5 heads (because there is no copyright), etc. As a company that creates, yes, they based their creatures on the mythology and they present their view of the creature (adaptation), but the creature is still recognizable (if a Minotaur is a slave, worshipper of darkness it does not matter because he still has his bull head on his shoulders and he can still be found in his maze) they did not change him so that we could not deduce what is his origin. But they did something like that to Cerberus in H6 by giving him only TWO heads, and people reacted, just as I reacted against your post. The dog with two heads is Orthus if I am not mistaken.
Serbians and Bulgarians are Slavs! If you didn't use Serbian/Bulgarian version you did not use Slavic as well!!!! You are so fascinated about your versions of the creatures that you know nothing about the real mythological creatures.
If you love myths and mythological creatures, there would be no need to change them. And yes, you can do what ever you want to creatures, change them, upgrade them, but then you cannot call them with their names, thus it is you who should change their names not I! One thing is to present Antaeus as a giant (with slight alterations because of artistic freedom), but another thing is to say that it is a TROLL!!!! Do you understand that? You cannot have a unicorn if you attach him a dragon's tail and cut off his legs...
You are also allowed to post your creatures, but do not say something like this: Hay guys these are awesome creatures check this, and this, and this, and then we realize that these are not the original creatures, but something that you like, a unicorn with a dragon tail and with chopped legs. If you give proposals propose originals, if not, name them something different so that there could be no confusion whether Antaeus is a giant or a troll (Antaeus is fromm Greek mythology, while Trolls are from Norse mythology if I am not mistaken).
You say the post wasn't for people to learn about the creatures, yet you also said: "Well that is a surprise! I actually helped you learn about myths." Well, well, what have we here... a contradiction. I'm eager to hear an explanation of this.
Also the Ala/Hala I described is the one and only Hala/Ala, she is not some Ala. Just as I suspected, you really do not like these creatures, but you like the idea of creating something different from them, I'll quote you again: "I really liked the idea of turning Hala into a wind-being".
I do not hate what you wrote, I am simply against that. It is perfectly fine to come up with your own mythology (Tolkien did it), but if you are not sticking to the original, then you are the one who should rename it.
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Sleeping_Sun
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posted November 13, 2014 12:20 AM |
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RMZ1989 said:
I am Serbian, so if you need any help with translating I am here.
And I have to disappoint you about some of the "creatures" and their names. Zmaj and Ala means one the same, and that is simply a Dragon... Now, sure they are obviously different than usual Dragons but every Dragon you see today is Zmaj on Serbian(Ala is rarely used, but still has the same meaning).
Nice to see some of the Serbian mythology here. ;D
However, that is a wrong usage. Zmaj is the being I described in my post. I described Ala as well. The correct term for a Dragon would be Azdaja. Though, many people are using Zmaj and Ala instead of Azdaja when referring to a Dragon.
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Rakshasa92
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posted November 13, 2014 12:25 AM |
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Sleeping_Sun said:
Rakshasa92 said:
Sleeping_Sun said:
Rakshasa92 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_beings_in_Slavic_folklore
Read this page about the Vila, there are more versions of vila.
The Vila are the Slavic versions of nymphs, who have power over wind, which they delight in causing storms of high winds. They live around hills, mountains, and high mounds. (cf. Leimakids, Limnades, Oceanids, Dryads, Nephele). They can appear as a ghost-like figure with a long billowing cloak wrapped around them.
I know there are different types of creatures named Vila (in Serbian: brodarkinje, planinkinje, bazdarice, etc.) But not all of them have dominion over wind. Some have dominion over waters, clouds, etc. If you want a specific Vila, than you have to either name her by her name or at least name her type. You cannot say Vila is JUST a thunder spirit, she could be that according to her type, but she could also be something different. You also cannot change a creature/spirit because you like your version better. If you change it say this is MY creature that I based on this creature(s).
I never see HOMM games do that to Gorgons, Minotaurs and Basilisk, so why do I have to do that?
I didn't use the serbian/bulgarian version of the Vila but the Slavic version. What's your point?
Mythological creatures are without copyright, you can do with them what you like, and I like some version of them made by other games (NOT D&D) and some versions I see in cartoons/movies and clips, others I really love the entire myth from like the Abaia and the Batibat, they are so cool, nothing has to be changed in my opinion.
The creatures I post here are wishes for my game-ready versions of them, which would suit HOMM, not a creature 100% as the myth, I don't want Antaeus to be a unique giant which only purpose is to fight Hercules, and I don't want Medusa to only fight few men and then have her head cut off to be used against the kraken, that is the mythology version, I need a good game version.
That post wasn't to learn people about the creatures, just what I like them to be in HOMM games. Some of them (like Rarog, Raiju, Cherufe and Will O Wisps) are correct 99% matches of their mytholigcal versions, others are based on game-versions, mostly Pathfinder/Paizo's bestairy versions, like the Hala and others i've been inspired by other people on Deviantart. I LIKE THOSE VERSIONS to be in HOMM, not some hala you described above.
If you hate it so much, just read the word Hala as Anemoi, another wind-like being, but from greek mythology. At first I had Hala/ala as hail-spirit, but after I found that picture I posted on the previous page I really liked the idea of turning Hala into a wind-being.
You really don't get the point.
Minotaurs are still with the head of a bull, and they still dwell in labyrinth. They did not butcher him by adding him wings (because they like it), 5 heads (because there is no copyright), etc. As a company that creates, yes, they based their creatures on the mythology and they present their view of the creature (adaptation), but the creature is still recognizable (if a Minotaur is a slave, worshipper of darkness it does not matter because he still has his bull head on his shoulders and he can still be found in his maze) they did not change him so that we could not deduce what is his origin. But they did something like that to Cerberus in H6 by giving him only TWO heads, and people reacted, just as I reacted against your post. The dog with two heads is Orthus if I am not mistaken.
Serbians and Bulgarians are Slavs! If you didn't use Serbian/Bulgarian version you did not use Slavic as well!!!! You are so fascinated about your versions of the creatures that you know nothing about the real mythological creatures.
If you love myths and mythological creatures, there would be no need to change them. And yes, you can do what ever you want to creatures, change them, upgrade them, but then you cannot call them with their names, thus it is you who should change their names not I! One thing is to present Antaeus as a giant (with slight alterations because of artistic freedom), but another thing is to say that it is a TROLL!!!! Do you understand that? You cannot have a unicorn if you attach him a dragon's tail and cut off his legs...
You are also allowed to post your creatures, but do not say something like this: Hay guys these are awesome creatures check this, and this, and this, and then we realize that these are not the original creatures, but something that you like, a unicorn with a dragon tail and with chopped legs. If you give proposals propose originals, if not, name them something different so that there could be no confusion whether Antaeus is a giant or a troll (Antaeus is fromm Greek mythology, while Trolls are from Norse mythology if I am not mistaken).
You say the post wasn't for people to learn about the creatures, yet you also said: "Well that is a surprise! I actually helped you learn about myths." Well, well, what have we here... a contradiction. I'm eager to hear an explanation of this.
Also the Ala/Hala I described is the one and only Hala/Ala, she is not some Ala. Just as I suspected, you really do not like these creatures, but you like the idea of creating something different from them, I'll quote you again: "I really liked the idea of turning Hala into a wind-being".
I do not hate what you wrote, I am simply against that. It is perfectly fine to come up with your own mythology (Tolkien did it), but if you are not sticking to the original, then you are the one who should rename it.
Gorgons aren't cows.
Naga's aren't Marilith demons from D&D.
Lammasu aren't undead manticores.
DO I have to continue?
Tolkien still named them ELVES.
And I already got rid of your precious Hala/Ala, its gone from my lists, I deleted it and changed it with Anemoi, a true wind creature.
Pathfinder made Hala/Ala fresh and cool, you just destroyed my (Fake) vision of it.
And I do love many myth creatures, some are just utterly boring.
I was just wrong to use the Hala/Ala here, the most twisted of the creatures and I shouldn't have called the Antaeus troll for a HOMM game.
But in my own RPG, trolls aren't creatures but a group of creatures. In HOMM it doesn't matter if antaeus is a giant, ogre or elemental, I will still like him.
And Antaeus being an earth-elemental like creature is 100% more accurate than Naga's being 6 armed women, which is 100% taken from Marilith demons from D&D.
EVERY game, from warcraft till Mortal Kombat and from LUFia to Final fantasy uses myth names an changes the appearance VERY MUCH in some cases, so I don't think I would be the only one to not do so just because I by accident used your precious Ala/Hala.
And wiki tells me the Vila is a being of wind and storm, and a nymph, so I trust them, as its so much better than the creature you tell me it is, just a group name.
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You say the post wasn't for people to learn about the creatures, yet you also said: "Well that is a surprise! I actually helped you learn about myths." Well, well, what have we here... a contradiction. I'm eager to hear an explanation of this.
Nothing of the sort, those people probably ALSO checked out wikipedia and google if they really like the creature. So I learned them the name of the creature, the journey to the real creature lies within a mouse-click.
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posted November 13, 2014 12:51 AM |
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Rakshasa92 said:
Gorgons aren't cows.
Naga's aren't Marilith demons from D&D.
Lammasu aren't undead manticores.
DO I have to continue?
Tolkien still named them ELVES.
And I already got rid of your precious Hala/Ala, its gone from my lists, I deleted it and changed it with Anemoi, a true wind creature.
Pathfinder made Hala/Ala fresh and cool, you just destroyed my (Fake) vision of it.
And I do love many myth creatures, some are just utterly boring.
I was just wrong to use the Hala/Ala here, the most twisted of the creatures and I shouldn't have called the Antaeus troll for a HOMM game.
But in my own RPG, trolls aren't creatures but a group of creatures. In HOMM it doesn't matter if antaeus is a giant, ogre or elemental, I will still like him.
And Antaeus being an earth-elemental like creature is 100% more accurate than Naga's being 6 armed women, which is 100% taken from Marilith demons from D&D.
EVERY game, from warcraft till Mortal Kombat and from LUFia to Final fantasy uses myth names an changes the appearance VERY MUCH in some cases, so I don't think I would be the only one to not do so just because I by accident used your precious Ala/Hala.
And wiki tells me the Vila is a being of wind and storm, and a nymph, so I trust them, as its so much better than the creature you tell me it is, just a group name.
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You say the post wasn't for people to learn about the creatures, yet you also said: "Well that is a surprise! I actually helped you learn about myths." Well, well, what have we here... a contradiction. I'm eager to hear an explanation of this.
Nothing of the sort, those people probably ALSO checked out wikipedia and google if they really like the creature. So I learned them the name of the creature, the journey to the real creature lies within a mouse-click.
I am glad I 'destroyed' your vision of Hala/Ala, since it was not accurate. In addition, let's hear your definition of the word 'boring'. The words boring, cool and fresh are rather subjective...
In your RPG you can do what ever you want, but when proposing mythological creatures try to stick with the original, since we are not in you RPG. Ok? If you know so much (which you by the way do not) it will not be too difficult for you, will it?
You trust wikipedia more than a book made by a people who researched this area? How can you work with either false or incomplete information?
I also believe that the same mouse click liberated them from your ideas and preferences as well. At least I can hope... Talking about pseudo-things these days....
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"The age can be wicked to those who walk alone. When I look into the Mirror, I see myself as I might become..." -Freya
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Rakshasa92
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posted November 13, 2014 01:04 AM |
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Please, you sicken me.
YOu are much to serious, its like I commit a crime.
Don't tell me you take the mythological stories for true? Are you religious? Zelous? You seem that way.
And one boring creature (Hala/Ala) doesn't mean I know NOTHING about the other creatures. The hala/ala doesn't even have 1 freaking picture on google results, and it isn't on ANY of the pinterest pages about mytho-monsters, its just an too unknown monster. I only knew it because of pathfinder, most other myths I know because of wiki, websites about mythology and my Carol Rose books.
I will suggest creatures I want in the game the way I want them. What are you? The master creator of the universe? Don't get that tone on me boy. YOu got the wrong person in front of you.
I know much more than you ever will, as you only seem to be interested in your own country's mythology.
My borders go futher, and yes I know most creatures true stories, but when I suggest my own freaking wishes for HOMM neutral creatures I can wish for whatever I like in whatever state I like them.
And people that mindlessly take my creatures for real, well i'm flattered. but its foolish to not check wiki/google first. If you really like what you are reading you should check wiki for more info anyway. And why would they hate me for giving them just a creature proposal?
But it feels like i'm talking with a zealot, and i'd rather not do that.
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moonshade
Known Hero
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posted November 13, 2014 01:16 AM |
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An idea
I also think that a possible expansion should introduce 1 new creature per every tier to every town (for example: in Dungeon Grim Stalker, Manticore and Faceless), but I'd also settle for a Flames of Chaos expansion (introducing Fortress and Inferno).
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Sleeping_Sun
Promising
Famous Hero
Townscreen Architect
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posted November 13, 2014 01:19 AM |
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Rakshasa92 said:
Please, you sicken me.
YOu are much to serious, its like I commit a crime.
Don't tell me you take the mythological stories for true? Are you religious? Zelous? You seem that way.
And one boring creature (Hala/Ala) doesn't mean I know NOTHING about the other creatures.
I will suggest creatures I want in the game the way I want them. What are you? The master creator of the universe? Don't get that tone on me boy. YOu got the wrong person in frond of you.
I know much more than you ever will, as you only seem to be interested in your own country's mythology.
My borders go futher, and yes I know most creatures true stories, but when I suggest my own freaking wishes for HOMM neutral creatures I can wish for whatever I like in whatever state I like them.
And people that mindlessly take my creatures for real, well i'm flattered. but its foolish to not check wiki/google first. If you really like what you are reading you should check wiki for more info anyway.
But it feels like i'm talking with a zealot, and i'd rather not do that.
It seems you are jealous as well, so talk to the hand next.
I really do not care if I make you sick. Plus, you have no idea how I behave when I am serious.
I do not take these stories to be true, but I do not like when a replica for the real is substituted for the real, and then presented for real. I also do not know where did you get that, that I am interested only in my own county's mythology? But unlike you, I educate myself on mythology from the books, not from wikipedia and not from a mouth of a random guy on the internet!
You can suggest what ever you want (as long as you do not mix up mythologies in a hope to impress anyone...), but if you cannot get some things in your thick head, I'll not repeat myself any more, since you refuse to listen.
After reading to your post, I assume that it is also fine to lie to the people. If we cannot trust the words you write, how can we trust your mythology...
And of what am I supposed to be jealous? Of a guy who doesn't check his information first before posting? You amuse me very much.
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"The age can be wicked to those who walk alone. When I look into the Mirror, I see myself as I might become..." -Freya
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted November 13, 2014 01:25 AM |
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Yes, yes I lie to people! I wish for creatures in homm-games that will become the replacers of elementals and its a big fat lie!
Whatever dude, just let me wish for creatures I want in the game in peace. If you think that is lying, that is great and all, but in fact it's nothing more than a innocent proposal
And just because one freaking unfriendly guy hates it when people change up mythology monsters from his countries mythology, doesn't mean I have to change. You aren't my father or God.
Many luck in your life, it must be hard with games like Final Fantasy, D&D, HOMM and many others that snow over the monsters from mythology every time.
I'm not writing a book on mythology, i'm just making wishes in a HOMM forum for christ's sake.
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Sleeping_Sun
Promising
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Townscreen Architect
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posted November 13, 2014 01:36 AM |
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Rakshasa92 said:
And just because one freaking unfriendly guy hates it when people change up mythology monsters from his country doesn't like it, doesn't mean I have to change. You aren't my father or God.
I'll quote myself: "I do not hate what you wrote, I am simply against that." The correction about my own country's mythology was an example (I did mention Greek and Norse mythology as well, thus your argument proves nothing), I really do not wish to clean someone else's mess, nor I have time for such a thing.
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, I translated a part of the text regarding Ala. I also scanned several pages in order to show you the images of Ala and Zmaj.
