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kayna
kayna


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posted January 10, 2015 07:12 AM

Russia driver ban on transsexuals.

Mr. Putin just banned transsexuals from driving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ji38-pfpGw

"because we have too many road accidents" . Oh my god. I just can't take Russia seriously anymore.

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Zenofex
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posted January 10, 2015 07:45 AM

Nice, another one fell for it.

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=40236&pagenumber=24

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Orzie
Orzie


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posted January 10, 2015 09:48 AM
Edited by Orzie at 09:56, 10 Jan 2015.

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Usually you have to prove that the person has the said personality disorder. And usually, and ultimately, we don't care.


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Yet, it's all solvable with a certain amount of money. It's Russia, y'know.


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Don't you notice something strange in your news about Russia? Maybe, too many Putins? Just saying.

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mvassilev
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posted January 10, 2015 10:31 AM

It's almost like "President of Russia" is an important position or something.
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kipshasz
kipshasz


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posted January 10, 2015 10:55 AM

@Orzie:

don't forget Putin shots down MH-17, Putin kills ukranian loyalists in donbass and other similiar "news".
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Orzie
Orzie


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posted January 10, 2015 12:27 PM
Edited by Orzie at 12:27, 10 Jan 2015.

20 years later I won't be surprised if Putin would start the WWII and the US would save the whole world entering Berlin.

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xerox
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posted January 10, 2015 01:08 PM

lets hope Putin will calm down a bit now that he's ruining the economy for Russian people and making his country hated by all of the world
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted January 10, 2015 01:24 PM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 14:02, 10 Jan 2015.

Did you even read Zeno's post? The west is trying to do its damnest to do a smear job on Putin, I'm still trying to fathom to what extent we're being misinformed. How can you objectively judge a state and its leader if you're sources are nitpicking for all the bad qualities.

Hell, have we forgotten what Russia was like a little over a decade ago? The oligarch's playground.  
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JollyJoker
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posted January 10, 2015 01:58 PM

And now it's Pre-Revolution again, a Tzar and the Church - plus, of course, the criminal element. Italy, 80 years ago, same imperial desires.
And THAT's what Russia had a revolution for nearly 100 years ago and another one, nearly 30 years ago? For... THIS?

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Orzie
Orzie


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posted January 10, 2015 01:58 PM
Edited by Orzie at 13:59, 10 Jan 2015.

xerox said:
lets hope Putin will calm down a bit now that he's ruining the economy for Russian people and making his country hated by all of the world

It's not Putin who makes Russia hated by all the (western) world. Remember that forever, kid.

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xerox
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posted January 10, 2015 02:26 PM

okay who's fault is it then? western media lying about Putin oppressing minorities, restricting civil rights and invading foreign democracies?
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Zenofex
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posted January 10, 2015 02:54 PM

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invading foreign democracies?
Ukraine's a democracy now?.. Actually, of course it is, just like Iraq and Afghanistan.

@JJ, the tzar part is right but Russia never really escaped from it. Stalin is easily the most powerful Russian tzar in the whole history no matter his alleged ideology and the whole USSR history is the story of a major European-Asiatic post-feudal state which put a mask on but changed little on the inside.

However, what imperial ambitions? The Eurasian Union perhaps? Just don't say Crimea please.

The Church is nothing more than an ideology that's supposed to fill the shoes of the collapsed state socialism, essentially an ideology around which the statehood is supposed to be built. When Putin came to power, the Russian state was nearly non-existent and the Russians were pretty much private property of a small number of oligarchs and not-so-small number of criminals. You may argue that this hasn't changed much but actually it has - the material welfare has improved, the security has improved, the overall internal stability of the federation has improved and great many Russians like(d) Putin even before the whole Maidan crap started because his government largely revived Russia after the chaotic post-Soviet years. What he uses to propagandise his idea of statehood is nothing new to Russia, it considers itself "the third Rome" as leading stronghold of Orthodox Christianity ever since the fall of Constantinople and is just reusing the idea, but the Church has always been a servant to the state in that part of the world, unlike in the West. That's reactionist to a large extent but considering what it was before that, it's actually a general improvement. Antagonising Russia will only ensure that it will stay reactionist and maybe even regress and that is an official policy for many Western states at the moment.

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Warmonger
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posted January 10, 2015 03:01 PM

Orzie said:
xerox said:
lets hope Putin will calm down a bit now that he's ruining the economy for Russian people and making his country hated by all of the world

It's not Putin who makes Russia hated by all the (western) world. Remember that forever, kid.

But just he is. No one in the West hates 'Russia' as such, but it's authorities.
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orzie
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posted January 10, 2015 03:28 PM

xerox said:
okay who's fault is it then? western media lying about Putin oppressing minorities, restricting civil rights and invading foreign democracies?

Ah, oppressing minorities. So that's the ultimate reason for the boy to hate.

Being gay is considered unnatural in Russia not by Putin. It is due to our traditions, view of the world and shadowed orthodox background. Even gays understand that, and they still live and thrive. Why y no turning attention to Islamic countries? Oh, Russia is worse of course. No doubts.

Ukraine is not a democracy since its latest more or less fairly elected president was deposed by the means of brute force. Crimea is Russian by its core because of its citizens. If you had a business card in Ukrainian and there was not a translation in Russian, no one wanted to have business with you. Crimea was a soviet gift to Ukraine back in the soviet times, and now Ukraine claims everything soviet obsolete and criminal. Communist party was outlawed in Ukraine. So don't tell me snowing fairy-tales about democracy. Stay in your far away dimension with unicorns and rainbows. Stay out of war and trouble. But don't forget that modern wars are not warred by guns.

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kayna
kayna


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posted January 10, 2015 04:25 PM

Hm. I'm surprised my Young Turks is wrong on this. They're not mainstream media >.>

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Stevie
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posted January 10, 2015 04:29 PM

Whenever the West points the finger at someone or some nation, my respect for those automatically increases.
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kipshasz
kipshasz


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posted January 10, 2015 05:43 PM

orzie said:
xerox said:
okay who's fault is it then? western media lying about Putin oppressing minorities, restricting civil rights and invading foreign democracies?

Ah, oppressing minorities. So that's the ultimate reason for the boy to hate.

Being gay is considered unnatural in Russia not by Putin. It is due to our traditions, view of the world and shadowed orthodox background. Even gays understand that, and they still live and thrive. Why y no turning attention to Islamic countries? Oh, Russia is worse of course. No doubts.

Ukraine is not a democracy since its latest more or less fairly elected president was deposed by the means of brute force. Crimea is Russian by its core because of its citizens. If you had a business card in Ukrainian and there was not a translation in Russian, no one wanted to have business with you. Crimea was a soviet gift to Ukraine back in the soviet times, and now Ukraine claims everything soviet obsolete and criminal. Communist party was outlawed in Ukraine. So don't tell me snowing fairy-tales about democracy. Stay in your far away dimension with unicorns and rainbows. Stay out of war and trouble. But don't forget that modern wars are not warred by guns.



I've read somewhere that Comrade Khrushchev added Crimean peninsula to the Ukranian SSR. He wanted to do the same with Kaliningrad and Lithuanian SSR.

There's been a rumor flying by in the recent months, esspecially at the peak of Ukranian "revolution", that the whole of Kaliningrad wished to initiate a referendum which would ask the question for merging with my commie run country.
needless to say, the jerry led by frau Merkel could also claim that kaliningrad is their teritory.
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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted January 10, 2015 07:28 PM

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Being gay is considered unnatural in Russia not by Putin. It is due to our traditions, view of the world and shadowed orthodox background. Even gays understand that, and they still live and thrive.

But it's Putin's regime that transforms those traditions into systematically oppressive laws and he's quite the authoritative figure at the moment. When I ask you why does your own human rights activists and lawyers condemn these laws, you answer me "they are very anti-Putin" How can you blame the West for relating things to Putin's authority, even when your own opposition sees the matter like that?

Evaluating everything from a perspective of "does the West blame us on it or not, why does West point their fingers" etc is one dimensional, you should be looking at the issue itself, no matter what the West says. There will be times they publish propaganda or shallow outsider's look, sure, but there will also be times what they say makes sense, and in my experience, that is not very seldom.

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Orzie
Orzie


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posted January 10, 2015 07:38 PM
Edited by Orzie at 19:41, 10 Jan 2015.

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could also claim that kaliningrad is their teritory.

Well, needless to say that a big piece of Ukraine is formed from other countries, like Lwow and Ternopol being originally Polish cities (which is still noticeable by different architecture and such), not even mentioning that Ukraine was not even a country, but a region of a Russian empire back in the times. Our languages still resemble each other, with Ukrainian being a somewhat hybrid of Russian and Polish. But that's outta topic.

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But it's Putin's regime that transforms those traditions into systematically oppressive laws and he's quite the authoritative figure at the moment. When I ask you why does your own human rights activists and lawyers condemn these laws, you answer me "they are very anti-Putin" How can you blame the West for relating things to Putin's authority, even when your own opposition sees the matter like that?

Putin's party, "Unified Russia" is seemingly not interested in changing the ruling party. And anyway there aren't any really decent candidates.

Frankly, we don't care so much about tolerance matters you discuss. Like I said, many gays are okay with the Russian laws. Our laws oppress every social group in its own unique way. Moreover, many gay rights activists often support current government's agenda on the international arena, since our political opposition looks like a circus and is often caught on faking the news no less than the official channels, being a 5th column as it is. So be sure your vision of the entire situation is highly subjective and single-sided.

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted January 10, 2015 07:41 PM

So, you're saying that Putin is not that authoritarian but the opposition is a mess and it's weak?

What is your own portrayal of Putin as a Russian?

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