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Galaad
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posted January 22, 2015 12:43 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 12:49, 22 Jan 2015.
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If you bothered to look at the feedback on official blog, you wouldn't state that. Very few was positive there after Necro reveal, and the positive thumbsup was made by an HC member.
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War-overlord
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posted January 22, 2015 12:51 PM |
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Galaad said:
If you bothered to look at the feedback on official blog, you wouldn't state that. Very few was positive there after Necro reveal, and actually made by Stevie.
That's why I said looking at the polls/votes.
The comments-section is a magnet for bilespewers and trolls. If the comment section were any indication of the trends, the Blades from the Shadows option would have won in the Dungeon Line-up vote. If the commentsection were accurate, Dungeon would've lost to Inferno.
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Avonu
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posted January 22, 2015 12:54 PM |
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You forgot one thing War-overlord, you can't change your vote on HC while you could do that on blog.
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War-overlord
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posted January 22, 2015 12:55 PM |
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Avonu said:
You forgot one thing War-overlord, you can't change your vote on HC while you could do that on blog.
True.
But several revote polls were held on this forum. The results were still skewed towards the more conservative options.
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Galaad
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posted January 22, 2015 12:56 PM |
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War-overlord said:
That's why I said looking at the polls/votes.
We didn't get any poll on official blog regarding our appreciation of MMH6 Necropolis.
I will surely do a poll there when community section will open.
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War-overlord
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posted January 22, 2015 12:57 PM |
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Galaad said:
We didn't get any poll on official blog regarding our appreciation of MMH6 Necropolis.
I will surely do a poll there when community section will open.
I will be curious what the results will be.
And don't make it a Yes<>No poll. Please.
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xerox
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posted January 22, 2015 01:02 PM |
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Pros
- The Mesopotamian theme is really cool and fitting. I love how the town/ziggurat looks like on the adventure map though the town screen is bit underwhelming due to it suffering from the same issues as the other H6 town screens, with the walls being way up front on the screen and such.
- I loved how they abandoned the boring old "slow Zombie" trope and went for aggressive Ghouls instead. I'm kinda sad to see them gone in the H7 line-up, I thought they were one of the better innovations of H6.
- Loved the look of the Ghost and I don't mind them reusing assetts of it.
- I liked having the Lamasu in the line-up, it was something new and fresh, but I think it should stay exclusive the H6 and I hope it doesn't become a recurring Necropolis creature.
Cons
- Green goo everywhere. This has to go. It looks sci-fi and compeltely breaks the immersion. Just compare the H3 Necropolis with the H6 one. The H6 one feels like a Brazilian carnival in comparison to the genuiny creepy H3 Necropolis. I was actually scared of its town screen as a kid.
- Necromancy being a glorified healing spell, compeltely missing the fantasy of raising swarms of undead to fight for your cause.
- The overall emphasis on Necropolis as faction focused on ranged and tankny units. I didn't like that one bit. It does not fit with the fantasy of this unstoppable, marching army of the dead, which is what I expect from an Undead faction. Skeletons should be melee units and Liches the sole ranged creature.
- Liches looking comical with the overabundance of green goo and losing what I feel is the defining trait of them in the HoMM franchise: the Death Cloud. That was a horrible idea.
- Vampires looking like Warcraft Arthas instead of looking like, well, Vampires. Once again its a fail in achieving the archetypical fantasy of a Vampire - which is a fast, offensive blood sucking killer, not a tanky Death Knight - without replacing it with something more appealing.
- Namtarus. Again, green go, ranged unit and just doesn't thematically feel like an Undead unit. Especially not as an Undead champion.
Overall, no. I did not like the direction of Necropolis in H6, mainly due to it not fulfilling what I see as the fantasy of an Undead faction. I think most people want the Undead faction to play as this unrelenting army of the dead but in H6, it wasn't that. Not at all. And I'm sad about the developers seemingly being so obsessed about it that I fear the flaws of the H7 edition will stay mostly the same.
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Avonu
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posted January 22, 2015 01:04 PM |
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Did you like MMH6 Necropolis?
Compared to what? To other factions in HoMM6? To other HoMMs' Necropolis towns?
Do I like HoMM6 Necropolis army? Or Town Screen? Or maybe its Heroes?
As War-overlord pointed, I can't answer poll question with simply yes/no. I like some aspects of H6's, I dislike others and I think HoMM2 town has the best atmosphere from all Necropolis in Heroes games.
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Galaad
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posted January 22, 2015 01:04 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 13:06, 22 Jan 2015.
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War-Overlord said:
But several revote polls were held on this forum. The results were still skewed towards the more conservative options.
Please don't misunderstand my poll. I didn't asked if people favored H2/H3 Necropolis, I asked one's opinion about MMH6 Necropolis.
War-Overlord said:
I will be curious what the results will be.
Me too.
War-Overlord said:
I Object to this being a yes or no question.
When faced towards a black or white choice to make, a true Hero will think it through.
Avonu said:
As War-overlord pointed, I can't answer poll question with simply yes/no. I like some aspects of H6's, I dislike others and I think HoMM2 town has the best atmosphere from all Necropolis in Heroes games.
So simply express what are you likes and dislikes about it. Maybe after doing that, you will make up your mind, if not, don't vote, only leave the comment. 
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Maurice
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posted January 22, 2015 01:32 PM |
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I think the Ghoul was an absolute winner in H6 Necropolis, a unit that I would like to see return in future titles instead of the zombie unit. But overall, it feels too much like a dark wizard faction, it lacks the dreaded Undead feeling. It's too "good", not "evil" anymore while it should be evil-incarnate.
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War-overlord
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posted January 22, 2015 01:44 PM |
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Galaad said:
War-Overlord said:
But several revote polls were held on this forum. The results were still skewed towards the more conservative options.
Please don't misunderstand my poll. I didn't asked if people favored H2/H3 Necropolis, I asked one's opinion about MMH6 Necropolis
I don't. This is in reply to Avonu, that despite the ability to revote the actual polls, the afterpolls conducted here still differed greatly from the official results.
If the polls happened on HC and HC alone. Fury would've lost to both Balance and Strenght and Blades would've lost the first round.
Galaad said:
When faced towards a black or white choice to make, a true Hero will think it through.
Bull. There is never a true black or white choice.
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TD
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posted January 22, 2015 02:44 PM |
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I did like the bone dragon(or whatever it was called), but the original/real necro of h6 was the worst iteration in the series. I liked even Death from h4 better and that's saying a lot.
I hated the looks of the units in general, I hated the town-screen/looks and I especially hated the meth heads(liches), lamasus and Namtarus. I disliked the harpooners(skeletons), gimps(the idea of ghoul was good) and knights(vampires). The ghost was at least closer to mediocre(so it was best of the worst as in mediocre on neutral term). Ohh yeah and the necromancy racial was total crap! So overall? H6 necro deserved to go straight to hell!
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Avonu
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posted January 22, 2015 03:20 PM |
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TD said:
H6 necro deserved to go straight to hell!
Ubisoft response:
"We read all fans feedback and decided to tweak Necropolis in Heroes 7 a little. So in response to comments like: "go straight to hell" and to lack of Inferno faction in Heroes 7, we bring a brillinat idea to live: Necropolis will be merged with Inferno and from now it will be called Infernopolis. We are sure that fans will love that - you will get Inferno in Heroes 7 and Necropolis won't have line-up similar to Heroes 6."
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frostymuaddib
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posted January 22, 2015 04:04 PM |
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No
1. Warcraft, warcraft everywhere. I mean ghouls, spiders, and Vampire Arthas. Not to mention green goo (Undercity anyone?).
2. Necromancy. No more raising undeads, just another heal/ressurect spell (healing was overall bad in HoMM6, imo).
3. Spider cult thing. Ok, they worship Asha the spider goddes, but does everything has to have spider on it? It is too much.
4. Lore - I don't like the fact that they are prtrayed as poor misunderstood wizards that are actually good and are protectors of Ashan.
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Stevie
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posted January 22, 2015 04:48 PM |
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JollyJoker
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posted January 22, 2015 04:55 PM |
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Stevie said:
If you want to see a Necropolis done right, play Disciples 2.
I have to say I agree a lot with that. You could also add the Demon/Inferno faction and the Dwarven faction, with Elves and Humans being done well enough.
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Greenlore
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posted January 22, 2015 05:00 PM |
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Overall I am ok with them.
Pros
-The ghoul was a really nice unit and far better than the zombie.Though I would like to see the zombie return as a summonable unit in the future.
-Overall I liked the design of the ghosts and generally had nothing against the design of the necropolis units
-Namtarus were in my opinion a good champion unit,the dual form was very nice.
-skeletons are ranged,which I loved in H5 and gives them at least some shooter among the core units
-I liked how they went away from the typical "oh no undead are evul" thing,however
Cons
-I also think they overdid it a bit with portraying them as good.
-too much green(although I don't think it was as bad as some people like to say)
-I found it weird how the monster form of the namtaru was her ranged form,while her human form was her melee form
-the liches were kinda lame,they went from one of my favorite necro-units to some of the most boring ones.
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Danny
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posted January 22, 2015 10:23 PM |
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YES
I hated H5 Necropolis and been mostly indifferent about H2-3-4.
And sorry but this is quite a pointless poll, I know that "no" will win here because HC is very Necropolis obsessed but it's not like these result will suddenly change what the devs had decided about Necropolis in H7.
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Avirosb
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posted January 22, 2015 11:07 PM |
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Stevie said:
If you want to see a Necropolis done right, play Disciples 2.
Meh, the art in that game is just too busy. It really wears on the eyes.
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JollyJoker
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posted January 23, 2015 07:28 AM |
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Then you are too close to the screen looking at it.
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