|
| Thread: [Petition] HD Remake Further Enhancements | |
|
Lord_Immortal
Famous Hero
DoR Dev Team
|
posted January 30, 2015 11:13 PM |
|
|
Poll Question:
[Petition] HD Remake Further Enhancements
On the light of the new Heroes III HD remake I would like to make a petition for Ubisoft to enhance the future versions of HD Remake even beyond original Heroes III.
Practically, my requests would be:
-Fully integrated Armageddon's Blade and Shadow of Death
-Full, standalone Forge Towns.
-Possibility to change game language through the Launcher, no more fixed language since install.
-16 Town Backgrounds: 8 Surface and 8 underground backgrounds for Town Screen and for Town Siege,1 for each type of terrain (Dirt,Swamp,Rough,Subterranean(make some sort of half-open cave for subterranean-surface),grass,lava,snow,desert).
-Fully integrated Horn of the Abyss as a free DLC
-Fully integrated Wake of Gods [as free DLC ]with re-concepted versions of the WoG units [ I'd like to see an original War Zealot or a non-hybrid Sylvan Centaur, or have the possibility to choose, in Inferno, between Efreeti and Nightmare, or better 8th level units or new, more "divine" looks of the Gods ]
(I think Ubisoft can legally integrate HotA and WoG as free DLCs since they're part of the franchise)
|
|
Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
|
posted January 30, 2015 11:24 PM |
|
|
So people from HoTA worked their ass for 6 years then Ubi gets the money?
Where do I sign?
____________
Era II mods and utilities
|
|
Datapack
Famous Hero
|
|
posted January 30, 2015 11:27 PM |
|
|
|
Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
|
|
posted January 31, 2015 12:28 AM |
|
|
Reaching for the stars? 
I suggest baby steps first. While I do want to see both official expansions added just like the rest of us, the base game has enough issues as it is right now that should get some love and care first.
|
|
zmudziak22
Supreme Hero
Heroes 3 Fan
|
|
posted January 31, 2015 12:32 AM |
|
|
|
I would like have 2 addons, hd mod improvements, chronicles integrate into complete edition, allow to install hota on this Version.
|
|
Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
|
|
posted January 31, 2015 12:35 AM |
|
|
We reply just for fun, I hope everyone realises that nothing from what he asks is technically doable. The number of additional graphics to polish from AB-SoD is not noticeable, maybe 10% added to what they did, so if they had them, they would release and charge a little more.
As for HoTA, wog, forge or whatever, the technical differences between those add-ons make practically impossible to set them dependent of a single platform at once. Unless all the work is started from scratch. Then HD uses a different compression of graphics, which means 90% of wog mods won't work. So is BS.
____________
Era II mods and utilities
|
|
hippox89
Famous Hero
|
|
posted January 31, 2015 02:43 AM |
|
Edited by hippox89 at 02:47, 31 Jan 2015.
|
One thing I simply fail to understand is how subjectively better graphics is worth all this bother? Why cling to such fantasies as mentioned when you could just be playing Complete/WoG/HotA with the unarguable superior functionality of baratorch's HD mod?
I've been following the debate from the initial announcement, and I've been shaking my head strongly many times reading the many ungrounded fantasies and blind hype that has been exclaimed. Like, for example, many people have called out the wish for HotA to be absorbed as an official expansion, but do they even for one second consider how it would have changed the project? I hardly think so. The crew would certainly have lost any rights to their own work and the sovereignty do follow their own vision of the project.
It's also quite unreasonable to think that Ubisoft would ever seriously have considered spending the money needed to reconstruct SoD and then integrate HotA's features into it. Quite frankly, you only needed to read the initial Heroes 3 HD announcement and its projected release date to know that some of these fantasies would never happen.
I think some people should just take a deep breath and try to be a bit more reasonable and critical before rushing to proclaiming to 'please Ubisoft, I want this to happen!'.
|
|
Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
|
|
posted January 31, 2015 10:32 AM |
|
|
Well, don't try to understand the thing from logical perspective, like "is the game better with or not". Is about sales and advertising. If HD edition had all the goodies in (like era, hota, forge), it would surely boost sales a lot and gather several millions fans for a moment. Because HD label sounds like an improvement to fans ears. It suffice to read the reviews for HD: almost exceptional while it is obvious that reviewers have no clue how H3 is played or how it evolved in the last 10 years.
____________
Era II mods and utilities
|
|
hippox89
Famous Hero
|
|
posted January 31, 2015 12:31 PM |
|
Edited by hippox89 at 12:41, 31 Jan 2015.
|
It would be great if HotA/ERA II/other-projects could reach more couch fans by convenience, but the stir caused by the Heroes III HD Edition and its own shortcomings will have made more people aware that there's some other great alternatives out there, at least.
Edit: I'm sure having WoG/HotA in the advertisement would have boosted the sells, but probably 'HD' was enough to convince most couch fans anyhow. The fact that the release sucks in so many other ways is the real deal breaker for most people, I'd imagine.
|
|
Valeriy
Mage of the Land
Naughty, Naughty Valeriy
|
|
posted January 31, 2015 12:50 PM |
|
Edited by Valeriy at 12:52, 31 Jan 2015.
|
hippox89 said:
It would be great if HotA/ERA II/other-projects could reach more couch fans by convenience, but the stir caused by the Heroes III HD Edition and its own shortcomings will have made more people aware that there's some other great alternatives out there, at least.
Perhaps that is currently the best thing about the H3 HD release - more people will find out about the great content that was created by the fans over the last several years. I've checked the statistic logs and it already shows - AOH and HC had 1.5 times the usual number of visitors in the last couple of days.
____________
You can wait for others to do it, but if they don't know how, you'll wait forever.
Be an example of what you want to see on HC and in the world.
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com
|
|
titowam
Hired Hero
|
|
posted January 31, 2015 07:02 PM |
|
|
Partially signed.
Integrated AB & SoD:
Ubisoft has said that they didnt get the source code for this because it was lost or something, but this would be really nice if it came with it, or as DLCs.
Full, standalone Forge Towns:
YES. I have to ask though, "towns"? Isnt there one forge town? Or can you explain? I only know there was gonna be a forge town that was scrapped..
Possibility to change game language through the Launcher, no more fixed language since install:
Agreed.
16 town backgrounds:
Would be a nice touch but I doubt they'll do this.
HOTA as a DLC:
Probably not as a DLC, but I would kinda want it as a Steam Workshop thing that you could download. If they have it as a paid DLC they should give like 50-95% of the profit to the HOTA makers.
WoG as a DLC:
See above.
|
|
KAPTEN_KAFFE
Tavern Dweller
|
|
posted February 01, 2015 06:17 PM |
|
|
Personally im really dissapointed in the steam hd release.
I logged onto steam and it said HEROES 3 RELEASED IN HD so obviously i bought it. I wish it would have said heroes restoration of erathia only whitout map generator!
And i must say, the way it looks, im not so fond of it.
I make sprite-sheets for 2d games, and i think what ubisoft did whit the sprites is pretty, well, "half-assed" or how do you say
and third thing is, whitout Hota and the shortcuts and fixes from the HD launcher the game is unplayable to me
|
|
Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
|
|
posted February 01, 2015 06:27 PM |
|
|
Ubisoft has already proven that they can choose old game from the past, take worst version of it, add their own bugs and "HD" graphics of questionable quality.
Oh, but they still make money out of it. That's the only thing they seem to be good at.
All in all, this petition is nonsense. If you want to play a good HoMM game, you need to create it on your own.
____________
The future of Heroes 3 is here!
|
|
Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
|
|
posted February 01, 2015 06:36 PM |
|
|
KAPTEN_KAFFE said:
it said HEROES 3 RELEASED IN HD so obviously i bought it.
That's your punishment for playing Capten Obvious.
|
|
Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
|
|
posted February 01, 2015 06:44 PM |
|
|
Salamandre said:
So people from HoTA worked their ass for 6 years then Ubi gets the money?
Where do I sign?
Damn straight!
____________
|
|
Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
|
|
posted February 01, 2015 06:56 PM |
|
|
|
Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
|
|
posted February 01, 2015 07:04 PM |
|
|
Salamandre said:
KAPTEN_KAFFE said:
it said HEROES 3 RELEASED IN HD so obviously i bought it.
That's your punishment for playing Capten Obvious.
People like that ruin game industry. It doesn't mean how bad the game was made, only if marketing was done nicely (in other words, how well did they lay to you).
____________
The future of Heroes 3 is here!
|
|
|
|
