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Corribus
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posted July 10, 2015 12:41 AM |
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Stevie said: Herry, for the sake of your one moment of lucidity, just shut up.
Do you need a red, five-pointed reminder of the Code of Conduct?
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Stevie
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posted July 10, 2015 12:54 AM |
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frostymuaddib
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育碧是白痴
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posted July 10, 2015 01:05 AM |
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Herry said:
frostymuaddib said: IMO, Like/Dislike system would be plain stupid.
So care about saying why? BTW, I don't take kindly to people who just say plain stupid about my idea without even saying why. Your post in itself is an example of stupidity, because if you were intelligent, Mr.George Romero, you would have more than probably elaborated. Let me just say this, if you are another one of these hater dicks please don't reply. This is discussion, you guys made it chit-chat to see who is right and mumbla.
Thank you Herry for insulting me You are the first one to do that on this forum I just stated that the idea of likes/dislikes is stupid. Why? Because it will become new facebook, and I find that bad. Also, if a thread (topic) is interesting, people will read it and comment on it, and it will stay on top. Plain and simple. It worked on forums for years and I don't see how it will improve forum quality.
Herry said: 2. The "quality" in a post caused by this system is far unlikely to be objective, it is only from the users' point of view.
3. Any like or dislike shouldn't affect the post in any way.
And, please explain how points 2 and 3 make you want to have likes/dislikes. You said it is unlikely to be objective, so it will just cause confusion, and you say that it shouldn't affect the post. What is the point of the system then?
Also, a little advice: do not take everything personally. I didn't attack you, or said anything against you. I just said that I do not like the idea (formulation 'plain stupid' is used to explain how much I dislike the idea) and that's it.
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fred79
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posted July 10, 2015 01:05 AM |
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@ stevie: i think it would be a bad idea for anyone to get behind herry. simply because he eats too many bean burritos.
but seriously, there are problems with this proposal. we already have the qp system, and it works just fine. there is enough infighting as it is; we don't need another way to make it more personal, or another way to split the community up.
if anything, i say, a "like" option is a good idea. a "dislike" option, on the other hand, is just another way to exclude members from the community(mods already are notified, and handle business, when their is a "dislike" among the community). everyone here has their quirks; no one will like someone completely. it's better to be accepted for who you are, then give someone a chance to say, "you're not good enough".
so to summarize, +1 for "like". and -1 for "dislike".
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Herry
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posted July 10, 2015 01:10 PM |
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Well it is really rude for someone to come into a long 50+ post topic and just say "plain stupid", you don't have any idea how much I wanted to use the *****s.
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verriker
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posted July 10, 2015 01:56 PM |
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Herry said: Well it is really rude for someone to come into a long 50+ post topic and just say "plain stupid", you don't have any idea how much I wanted to use the *****s.
hardly rude whatsoever, he said IMO and was not criticizing anyone personally, he was criticizing an idea put up to solicit opinions, I hope you are not taking offense on behalf of the idea lol
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frostymuaddib
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育碧是白痴
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posted July 10, 2015 02:15 PM |
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Thank you Verriker
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Herry
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posted July 10, 2015 03:31 PM |
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Actually I kind of was. I can't believe I'm saying this but... Can somebody close this thread, or better still, put it in the VW? We really aren't doing anything here, other than arguing childishly.
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OhforfSake
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posted July 10, 2015 03:53 PM |
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The only way I imagine such a system is being implemented is if Val decides it's worth it. For that to happen, I guess a thread that shows the forum encourages it, or at least with users providing strong arguments for it, could be an advantage.
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fred79
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posted July 11, 2015 01:32 AM |
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Herry said: We really aren't doing anything here, other than arguing childishly.
this is an insult to everyone who actually took the time to respond seriously regarding what you proposed, herry. just so you know.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted July 11, 2015 04:46 AM |
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fred79 said: this is an insult to everyone who actually took the time to
respondseriously regarding what you proposed, herry. just so you know.
++ double like
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Herry
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posted July 11, 2015 03:09 PM |
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Edited by Herry at 15:11, 11 Jul 2015.
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Insult or not, there are no results. Weren't you the ones who refused this system? I never get you guys. Also, you're not one to talk. I was actually more SERIOUS in this than any of you.
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blizzardboy
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posted July 11, 2015 03:28 PM |
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Hell yeah boy, that's how you do it. Don't take their ****.
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Maurice
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posted July 11, 2015 03:39 PM |
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Edited by Maurice at 15:41, 11 Jul 2015.
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Herry said: Insult or not, there are no results.
Maybe you shouldn't have started throwing mud by attacking several people in an attempt to defend yourself, rather than to defend the idea by countering their negative disposition? You seem to take their negative attitude personally. Besides those few people who stated their unmotivated dislike for the system, there was some discussion, until you made your first reply here.
I don't know, but in that first reply, you're in an agressive defense mode. That doesn't help you make your point - and in fact, weakens it. That's what Stevie tried to tell you, but instead you attack him about that reply.
It works better to de-escalate such situations, than to add oil to the (small) fire that you see.
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markkur
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Once upon a time
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posted July 11, 2015 03:40 PM |
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I'm in the middle-ground about like/dislike, yea/nay. etc. in whatever form it appears.
There's no doubt that a quick agree/disagree or any other form of acknowledgement can be handy, sometimes time is of a concern or someone absolutely responds or says what you would and it seems a total waste to repeat it all again. The perfect greeting-card and all that.
What I do not like about the concept comes from people "possibly" gradually combining two words that are quite common for most mere mortals...habit and lazy.
Again I'm not knocking anything, I just have this concern. As time passes and the green-thumbs-up (whatever). gets used more and more, I find posts now (at other sites) where I see someone does the like-bit and when I look at the "liked" post, "sometimes" there are conflicting points present and other times many different points that appear in agreement. It's then I find myself thinking in both those situations; "did the "oh yeah" person really agree with the whole post?" Obviously they may have but is that always the case?
Again, I'm talking more about fog than anything solid but I just know how easy it is to not bother to explain or debate and wonder how much might be lost in interactions as this becomes more the rule and not the exception?
In my work-life-experience a group of people shared agreement and disagreement about a problem etc. but often they held very different parts/reasons concerning the whole question/idea. Sort of like a brainstorming-session where a group hammers something out and then collectively works out something very well conceived or shoots-down a really bad idea that was not so obvious at first.
It's not codgers like me that I'm considering but more importantly the youth that haven't went very far in developing debate or group-skills and also the possibly that important additional ideas/insights etc. might not become a part of the whole issue.
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Herry
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posted July 11, 2015 06:15 PM |
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OK let's turn this into something meaningful. I wasn't fully aware of what I said, honest. This is a bit off-topic but we Muslims(real ones not terrorist ****s) have a religious practice that involves not eating or drinking anything from sunrise till sunset. If you really have to know why it's to feel what the poor people who can't afford/find/get food and water feel, or so they told me at least. Anyways let's not make this some OSM ****, during this stage I can't focus as much as I can normally, so it's actually quite better to not take me seriously. The reason is, what I told you about, combined with the hot temperature makes my blood boil, and it gets easier to get angry for practically NO REASON and to get offended without anyone trying to. I can't really explain why, if you want to know this feeling, just try it out. It's not easy you know. So please, just discuss what you have to, and only seriously take what I point out I'm serious about, there are 6 whole days remaining, as I have to do this for a whole month. Anyways I couldn't even really get what you guys were saying, I'm really hungry and thirsty right now.
/end off-topic
By the way it would be really nice if you just forget all that I said, I don't mean 92% of it, and the rest is just non-sense.
And no I'm not crazy, it's just it's really hard to focus right now, so for this week I will only reply when my belly is full and/or I must reply.
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fred79
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posted July 11, 2015 06:56 PM |
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Herry said: By the way it would be really nice if you just forget all that I said, I don't mean 92% of it, and the rest is just non-sense.
i'll do this with anything you post from now on, to prevent any further issues. really good advice; it's a shame you always have to repeat it when you constantly screw up here in the community. maybe one day you will be both respectful and respected; i'm betting, a few years from now is when that turnaround will kick in.
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted July 11, 2015 07:02 PM |
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Herry said: Anyways let's not make this some OSM ****, during this stage I can't focus as much as I can normally
You know, Herry, if you are fasting in Ramadan, it's also forbidden to swear.
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kipshasz
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posted July 11, 2015 08:10 PM |
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artu said:
Herry said: Anyways let's not make this some OSM ****, during this stage I can't focus as much as I can normally
You know, Herry, if you are fasting in Ramadan, it's also forbidden to swear.
Allah's wrath upon you heathen!!!! thou shall not swear on Ramadan!
Bad muslim! bad!
now seriously. we have these likes/karma points/whatever, in nearly every other bleeping message board. I don't see why implement such a thing here. it's gonna be pointless and will spring up unnecessary drama and butthurt users.
Leave HC as it is. It's unique. let's keep it that way.
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Herry
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posted July 11, 2015 08:12 PM |
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Edited by Herry at 20:14, 11 Jul 2015.
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kipshasz said:
artu said:
Herry said: Anyways let's not make this some OSM ****, during this stage I can't focus as much as I can normally
You know, Herry, if you are fasting in Ramadan, it's also forbidden to swear.
Allah's wrath upon you heathen!!!! thou shall not swear on Ramadan!
Bad muslim! bad!
now seriously. we have these likes/karma points/whatever, in nearly every other bleeping message board. I don't see why implement such a thing here. it's gonna be pointless and will spring up unnecessary drama and butthurt users.
Leave HC as it is. It's unique. let's keep it that way.
I didn't swear, because I wasn't using *s to cover a profane word. I simply didn't find something lowly enough to express my hate for most of the OSM content, so I used ****.
NOTE: This is a very serious post.
Wait. Wait a second... I forgot that I need my belly to be full in order to post in this thread xD
Anyways I still have long 35 mins to go. BTW kip thanks for expressing your opinion
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