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frostysh
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posted November 27, 2016 12:00 AM |
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Edited by frostysh at 00:35, 27 Nov 2016.
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Salamandre said:
You know what I mean but choose to mutilate it the way you want so you could pull those constant colored scribblings and the pseudo science coming with.
When I say "acquiring power is in our genes", it means it proved to be an universal behavior, as every individual used it to secure its survival and expand its influence. Even you do it at your -reduced- capacity, why else continue those bollocks else than trying to dominate the debate by forcing the others to give up, as I know no human who will try to reason a wall.
a nonsense.
First off, mr Salamandre, you are trying to connect "genes", to the behavior of the society , even more you trying to define the whole frigging evolution of the Human Society by this "genes". - this is ridiculous.
Second off, you are trying to connect your imaginary features (which is obviously a result of the influence of the traditions, and stuff applied to the particular mr Salamandre, but not a characterizing stuff of the all living beings... ) of the "all living things" , such as "acquiring power", and then you again trying to apply this stuff to the whole human society, and even define the evolution by this factors  Jesus .. Christ.
and all of this, without a frigging single Scientific explanation... 
Besides, the "colored picture" in the my previous post above (on the previous page of the topic), is a very interesting picture.
well, I will provide the example netter,  .
i.e. a long-long time ago, the information about a surrounding world, in the living beings, has been transported only through a "genes", some time after the cognition, and the complicated societies has been appeared - and the information becoming prerogative of the human Brain and Society, and the Evolution of the Human Brain and Society becoming much more rapid, than a "genetic" stuff 
to illustrate this, we can show the methods of the information translation, that is much more rapid and effective than a "genes" stuff in the some primitive cells.
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Historical evolution of the recording of information in human society. AD, Anno Domini; BC, Before Christ; HDD, hard disk drive.
Optical storage arrays: a perspective for future big data storage - well maybe this diagram is not very precise, but at least it can show a stuff in general.
So genes becomes unimportant in case of translating information about a surrounding world, after developing a complicated brains, and societies.
, in the modern times, the Scientist can change the "genetic information" by their will, by their cognition, this is an amazing...
So what will be in the future? perhaps the Scientist will be able to manipulate with the human Brain, with the Cognition itself, with the all of this Information, like the modern Scientist manipulating with a Computers  This things can make my breath to freeze Incredible possibilities, indeed . . .
And this is create some funny "paradoxes" . But this is only on the "philosophical level" .
And you, mr Salamandre, trying to explain a whole frigging, complicated like bloody hell itself, human society with your "mega rules for all living beings" *facepalm* - you trying to apply a static, monolithic, predefined axioms, and you trying to explain in this terms a whole, wide range dynamical system, as a human society on the Earth is, and its evolution, *sigh*. This is reminds me, when I have read about the attempts to explain some Electromagnetic phenomenons without the Theory of Relativity, but with a monolithic time, and the Aether .
do you know, what is this, looks like, mr Salamandre, it is looks like a religion , the many peoples tried to explain the whole world, in the simple things that they liked, the all of them are failed .
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artu
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posted November 27, 2016 12:05 AM |
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Edited by artu at 00:06, 27 Nov 2016.
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Salamandre
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posted November 27, 2016 12:22 AM |
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frostysh said:
mr Slamandre,
frostysh said:
mr Salmandre
Lets elevate the debate, would we? My main concern now is that all the mr/mrs politeness tools are superfluous if you don't care about butchering that person's name/nick.
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frostysh
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posted November 27, 2016 12:29 AM |
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Edited by frostysh at 00:48, 27 Nov 2016.
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Salamandre said:
.. . . if you don't care about butchering that person's name/nick.
Yeah, your are posting nonsense, but I have not "butchering" your "nick", mr Salamandre by my own will, I just feels a mega sleepy and your name/nick is so long, this was much more simpler with mr artu, his name/nick is hort..., I need to work hard tomorrow , so I can make a many grammatical mistakes, sec, I will fix it .,.. I am sorry if I created some discomfort through this grammatical mistakes, to you mr Salamandre.
Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh -*deep sight* frikking tomorrow day , I need go to sleep a many tile ago . . ,
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posted November 27, 2016 12:32 AM |
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Foul spirit leave my home already...
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Homer171
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posted November 27, 2016 03:22 AM |
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Interesting... the previous pages, I mean 
I have wondered the same thing years ago. Bible is a source for human, same could combared to animal as it's not the ideal audiance. Still, if the aliens had some religion/gods already should they now converted to christianity? Well, one is certain that we would all become from the same source as He is potrayed as Creator of all things. Then, there is this problem, in christian beliaf God incarnated as human. God who was right from the beginning, took human form and not only physically, he was a man and Son of God at the same time, 100% both. Not 50% human and 50% God, this is quite important. Now this man Jesus in his body was sentenced for dead for all humanitys sake. That man and God could reunite. It's pretty clear that Christian beliaf is only for human race.
What would you say to devil or angels on this mather? Nothing wise aim pretty sure. God would say to you perhaps: It's not your consirn, you do what is right/good.
On different note; How is that you are all so capable of imagining life outside this planet, that there must be aliens, an other races we can't be alone in this universe, IT'S SO BIG! But, not a single possibility that there could be even larger spectrum, there could be creator behind all this existence. No! That's just myth, can't even consider such possibility at this time and age! Life outside of this orbit, sure but just don't call it god, it gives me the chills. What if there is God?
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artu
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posted November 27, 2016 04:52 AM |
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Edited by artu at 05:01, 27 Nov 2016.
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It's a matter of probability, although the existence or non-existence of a god or gods is technically not falsifiable, it's also not a matter of heads or tails, it's actually so far from equiprobable. And considering how even monotheism itself (put aside any one of its cultural manifestations) is a very specified kind of belief, developed in a certain period of time in certain regions only, it is anything BUT the larger spectrum. On the contrary, it's an incredibly oversimplistic and blatantly anthropomorphic custom, already examined and analysed in great detail historically, sociologically and psychologically. If we're talking post-19th Century, most of the great minds I admired personally as a youth had surpassed such an idea even as a teenager and frankly so did I. The idea of a theistic universe felt so childish to me, even back in high-school, I had a hard time believing there was still so much serious debate over it in this age.
Bonus Quote of the Day:
"The various modes of worship, which prevailed in the Roman world, were all considered by the people, as equally true; by the philosopher, as equally false; and by the magistrate, as equally useful." Edward Gibbons
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yogi
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posted November 27, 2016 05:11 AM |
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Edited by yogi at 05:12, 27 Nov 2016.
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artu said:
anthropomorphic custom
that nature has settled upon this form as the seat of self-awareness is not impertinent
artu said:
The idea of a theistic universe felt so childish to me, even back in high-school, I had a hard time believing there was still so much serious debate over it in this age.
likewise, until i started studying the world around me and within me more than the written word
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artu
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posted November 27, 2016 05:19 AM |
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Nature is nature, "godifying" nature itself (pantheism) always seemed more poetic to me than a personified, theistic god. Still, poetic does not mean accurate and if by God we mean an entity with a consciousness and awareness (and traditionally we do), then, nature is not god.
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posted November 27, 2016 05:27 AM |
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artu
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posted November 27, 2016 05:35 AM |
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I am not god either. 
Of course, I am part of nature like anything else, I am natural. But my existence is not the result of a conscious act, life may not have existed at all.
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yogi
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posted November 27, 2016 06:53 AM |
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artu said:
my existence is not the result of a conscious act
rly?
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artu
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posted November 27, 2016 07:19 AM |
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rly.
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AlHazin
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posted November 27, 2016 08:53 AM |
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artu said:
I am not god either.
That's the point, you ARE God, just like anyone else. We have all that part of him in us. 
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artu
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posted November 27, 2016 11:46 AM |
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Can you please, please explain this to my damn cat also. She never listens!
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posted November 27, 2016 12:21 PM |
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Ah artu you have to follow the all-father's teachings, when the plebian subordinate creatures of this world misbehave you must stamp your divine authority on them. So call down a meteor on your cat, or flood the planet just to show the little bugger who's boss.
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artu
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posted November 27, 2016 12:43 PM |
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Yeah, cats are certainly from Sodom and can use some serious volcanic ass kicking. Dogs, on the other hand, are well-behaved Catholics, they always know they are the guilty ones and can charge a crusade on your behalf whenever necessary.
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tSar-Ivor
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posted November 27, 2016 01:48 PM |
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AlHazin
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posted November 27, 2016 02:01 PM |
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artu said:
Can you please, please explain this to my damn cat also. She never listens!
As soon as I learn catish  lol
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frostysh
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posted December 24, 2016 12:24 PM |
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yogi -
mr yogi, I do not understand your attempts to explain the World around you with "a wild feral nature", a cool holistic (it is a reference to the "Nutrition Degradation of tooth...") and a poor degradating modern guys.
I think it is similar mistake that mr Salamandre (and many other peoples too, sadly  ) taking - you are trying to explain and define a very complicated dynamical system, with a too much simple axioms that is easy to catch for you, mr yogi....
<imho> the modern human society is a part of nature, but when humanity obtain the cool intellect, the smarty cognition, etc, they obtain an ability to make they own complicated choices, but not to be a slaves of the instincts, habits, and anything that defines a "feral nature" life.
Too poor, that from a many possibilities of the evolution, and progress the humanity seems to chosen a not very good variant, and this is making the life on the Earth - like a life in the hell . . .
P.S. This week was not a very good week, but I am fine, at least for now.
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