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vulcancolak
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posted May 08, 2017 10:43 PM |
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[MOD] Heroes 5: New Order
Version 2.3 released with Russian language pack
Nice looking, detailed, categorized full changelog
Full Changelog
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Title: Unwanted
Genre: Drama
IMDB: 9.7
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Download 2.2
WARNING! OUTDATED! Thanks to the Remix for the 2 hours introduction video (Outdated, there are many things changed since this video) Click for the Video (Russian but you can use subtitle)
Heroes of Might and Magic 5: New Order
Before the start
I am the developer of many Warcraft III maps and mods (JFA, JFA Orpg, Risk FOrever, Battleships Special Editions, Confliction, Meiji Era) and i really enjoy making rearrangement of games and creating new ones.
Why i have created this mod?
I am the simple person who likes and enjoys this game since the 3. After the 3'rd game, 4 was a little disappointing for me. But thanks to the equilibris mod and map editor (manually placed items, monsters and level limit to 15 solved all my problems) and 5 was a great game for me. Actually i wasn't complained about the game for a long time. But after i have faced to great players i have realized there is a few things we need to focus (units, abilities, spells etc etc) and there was many useless things (WHEN WE COMPARED WITH OTHERS) and i was against them.
Main object of this mod
Rebalances many things
* Rebalanced artifacts
* Changes on creatures abilities, stats and costs
* Changes on creatures tiers (there are 2 tier 7 creature system)
* Heroes starting skills and stats and abilities
* Heroes stat and ability gain probabilities
* Town buildings costs
* Skills
* Spells
* Abilities
* Neutral buildings
* Moon Weeks
Why you don't have a players still?
No idea actually. I cannot find Heroes 5 players nowadays but i was realized, there are many people playing this game in your country. This is why i have decided to share my mod with yours. Latest version is 2.1 for now. I will check this topic "everyday" and i will read, and reply your comments if i need. I hope this time i can find at least "few" players for the improve this mod.
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2.1
You can comment, discuss "anything" about my modification. And don't forget, i have created it alone. This is why i cannot say it is fully balanced mod. I need players first 
Tier 6 Creatures Now Tier
Player now have a choice at this moment. You need to decide which T7 creature is better for your strategy.
No More Get All Creatures In 3 Weeks
New Order mod changes the building costs and prevents to players getting all units quickly. Both of the T7 buildings cost are 12 wood/12 ore/45 rare resource (for example 45 sulfur for inferno) and their upgrades 6 wood/6 ore /30 rare resource.
Rebalanced Creatures
New Order mod provides more expensive or cheaper creatures according to their powers. Many of the low tier units now more useful because of their cost or improved stats
Rebalanced Starting abilities (stats, skills, spells, warmachines)
Check the changelog for the details. This mod focuses on starting abilities of Heroes. Now no more weak or powerful starting heroes and it comes with new starting strategies
Extended item descriptions and remakes
Now you can see and learn slots, values and qualities of the items. And there are many changes on these stats
Creature rebalances
New Order mod changes many attributes of creatures (check changelog for details) and making some of them more powerful of weak for the balance
No more ultimate abilities and ability changes
There are rebalances on some abilities and ultimate abilities remove from the game.
Ultimate Abilities was fun actually but they had great advantage and focuses the player for the same skill build. Now players can focus their own skill build.
Spell changes
New Order mod focuses some of the spells and rebalances them.
New magic guild costs
New Order mod removes gold requirement for magic guilds (for the players who wants to focus on magic on early games) and removes primary resource for races. Because New Order mod T6 and T7 buildings costs requires lot of racial resource. If your market provides you 1 sulphur everyday, you can conserve it for the T6 and T7 buildings and still you can build your magic guild
New building costs
New Order mod changes cost of the many buildings and provides players to better strategy. Some of the buildings are free, some of them requires more resource for upgrade or requires low resources. You can go for the ranged units for easy creeping but it is a little pricy now. Or, you can build + upgrade more powerful but melee units for decreased cost
New maps
I am not just a modder. Before the start modding, I was making changes on many maps and now some of them fully compatible for the New Order mod. All of the maps rebalanced and tested many times.
Fair random creep system
New Order mod changes random creep system. You will no longer encounter range and mage creeps for random level 4 and 5. This provides the players the “fair” challenge. No more you will face with master hunters or druids when your opponent fighting with griffins and riders.
List of 64 heroes and 190 creatures
You can find all the data you need in my OneDrive page. And you can find all changes and i will start the release version changes when i release 2.2 (changes between the versions)
Credits
Volcano (myself): I have created everything by myself.
Heroescommunity: I have learned many things about Heroes 5 edit in here. Thanks to everyone who already helped or tried to help me.
Remix: For the 2 hours introduction video
I will be happy if you play and if you can comment about mod.
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dredknight
Honorable
Supreme Hero
disrupting the moding industry
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posted May 08, 2017 11:15 PM |
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vulcancolak
Famous Hero
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posted May 08, 2017 11:31 PM |
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lol i have just realized  thanks to you
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Mario
Known Hero
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posted May 09, 2017 12:35 AM |
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Hi vulcancolak!
You wrote:
"Frenzy duration for expert mastery lowered from 2 to 1". Is it really work? I heard that it was hardcoded.
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vulcancolak
Famous Hero
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posted May 09, 2017 12:47 AM |
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Mario said:
Hi vulcancolak!
You wrote:
"Frenzy duration for expert mastery lowered from 2 to 1". Is it really work? I heard that it was hardcoded.
I don't know because i was found it's settings and changed. It it is not, i will make changes on it instead of lowering it's duration. But of course first we need player/players -.-
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vulcancolak
Famous Hero
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posted May 14, 2017 12:14 AM |
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Sorry for the problem about creatures stats. Actually nobody gave feedback about this problem. Nobody interests with it actually. I have realized that, creatures stats and some of the text files was not working. I have solved this issue and uploaded 1.1 version.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 15, 2017 08:22 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 08:22, 15 May 2017.
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Some very basic feedback from taking a glance.
20 crystal requirement for thanes was one of my personal worst decisions H5 ever made so I wouldn't be happy if all t6 units got the same treatment. If memory serves that was too much for t7 even and such cases were revised in patch 1.3.
Frenzy on expert is hardcoded, it will still work for 2 turns even if you edited the file. Add 6% per sp and it is pretty broken.
I think you are too liberal with the extra luck/morale effects. You greatly increase the price but that doesn't matter when utopias are in play.
2-2 dmg skeleton archers is a lot, esp with battle frenzy and/or necklace of bloody claw.
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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vulcancolak
Famous Hero
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posted May 15, 2017 06:12 PM |
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Thank you for your feedback Elvin. First of all, i wanted to make something different for my 2 friends (they've recently started) and i have simplified T6 and T7 costs for them. After a few games we realized it is fun and rare resources now more precious and i have decided to work on this system. I have changed these costs 4 times and now we think it is stable.
Actually playes now can conserve gold and can build their own magic guilds, t6 and t7. And players can now build T6 in the second week (if they want to do, they can do) or they can wait for the T7. We find this system is nice and cool. But of course it does not mean everyone will like it.
Yes i have realized frenzy is hardcored, so i decided to change it on 1.2 version.
About the luck and morale and utopias. As you know, this game based on map. We are not playing on standard maps. So that means i am creating our own maps (making edit actually) and making it balanced.
About the skeleton archers. At the beginning i was thinking the same. But now players can build some of the buildings easily when compared with vanilla, and that gives only the first 3 week advantage to skeleton archers. Theory and practice is totally different believe me. This is why i am not prejudiced person.
Thank you again for your feedback. I will check every post before i update the mod.
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vulcancolak
Famous Hero
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posted May 21, 2017 06:33 AM |
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Still no one tried to my mod? I am waiting for good or bad feedbacks or any suggestions that will improves this mod.
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Tieruh
Tavern Dweller
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posted June 01, 2017 02:27 AM |
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Interesting
As a Sylvan player , i think u really understand the problem with Sylvan buildings wood problem. I really liked the ideas behind your changes. I am still testing but as far as i did ITS GOOD MAN !
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vulcancolak
Famous Hero
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posted June 01, 2017 03:49 AM |
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Tieruh said:
As a Sylvan player , i think u really understand the problem with Sylvan buildings wood problem. I really liked the ideas behind your changes. I am still testing but as far as i did ITS GOOD MAN !
Ah it seems you are the first one who tried my mod . I wish to see you in my lobby as soon as possible. I am working on 1.1 with my friend. I am testing it with him. And also i have few maps i will upload them. Wait for the 1.1 changes. And thank you.
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vulcancolak
Famous Hero
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posted June 09, 2017 10:32 AM |
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vulcancolak
Famous Hero
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posted July 01, 2017 09:24 PM |
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1.6 version is ready
Edit: I cannot post no more because of unsufficent replies.
Still i am looking at least 1 player yes still i don't have any players (except of my friends) and we need someone.
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Auron1st
Hired Hero
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posted October 07, 2017 01:03 PM |
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From full changelog:
Seraph: Crystal requirement increased from 2 to 30
Is that supposed to be that much or it's a typo (should be 3 instead of 30)?
And Altar of Light 40 gem?
I hope that some of the features here (especially from the spells) will end up in Heroes 5.5 (though I barely play that either due to free time constraints :/ )
Best of luck
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vulcancolak
Famous Hero
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posted October 08, 2017 03:57 PM |
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Auron1st said:
From full changelog:
Seraph: Crystal requirement increased from 2 to 30
Is that supposed to be that much or it's a typo (should be 3 instead of 30)?
And Altar of Light 40 gem?
I hope that some of the features here (especially from the spells) will end up in Heroes 5.5 (though I barely play that either due to free time constraints :/ )
Best of luck
Ah yes it was 3 and not just for altar of light. All factions Tier 7 buildings cost requirement is 40 (their own rare resource)
And about new features, i put much effort to my mod and i have tried to change hardcoded settings but after 1 week work, i cannot succeed. I cannot change hardcoded things. Me and my 2 or 3 friends are playing together. That is all. We think it is "Balanced" but we need more players for the learn new strategies or we need to see imbalanced things from them.
And another reason is, putting effort on your work, release lot of versions and make changes and if you will see nobody cares, it demoralizes you. 2 of my friends stopped play games for a while and i am alone now but still i am trying to think "how can i improve" i am working with excel tables for the re-configure everything and analyzing deeply.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 16, 2017 04:32 PM |
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If you want to see new strategies and experience diverse gameplay, look no further!
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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vulcancolak
Famous Hero
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posted October 28, 2017 08:38 PM |
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I just wanted to see "1 player" but. Damn.
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vulcancolak
Famous Hero
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posted November 21, 2017 07:30 PM |
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Guide is updated. Added screenshots for the this mod what exactly does.
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tihi85
Hired Hero
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posted November 23, 2017 07:35 PM |
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Ok, I made an account on this forum just so I can make a reply to you =p
I been playing Heroes for many years, ever since heroes 2. I have been coming to this forum and website for many years but I never made an account till now. And I assume there are more people like me.
I havent tried your mode yet but I have been looking for something like this. Been playing Heroes 5 for so long, I was looking for a mod to make the game fresh. I only play heroes with 2 of my friends but we only see each other once or twice a month. But I been reading all the changes you made and i tlooks interesting. I like the buffs you gave to summoning, summoning needs more love =p I would wish if you could balance more spells and give some buff/debuff spells a spellpower boost to its bonuses not just how long it lasts. Also I looking forward to seeing more creatures balances especially to alternative upgrades. Also love how u made some artifacts more useful.
I am sure there is more people out there that would like this mode to be updated they are maybe just too shy or too passive to say anything.
So please dont stop working on it, and thank you
Oh and also yea, Frenzy doesnt need a buff, that spell is already good =p
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vulcancolak
Famous Hero
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posted November 23, 2017 09:26 PM |
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tihi85 said:
Ok, I made an account on this forum just so I can make a reply to you =p
I been playing Heroes for many years, ever since heroes 2. I have been coming to this forum and website for many years but I never made an account till now. And I assume there are more people like me.
I havent tried your mode yet but I have been looking for something like this. Been playing Heroes 5 for so long, I was looking for a mod to make the game fresh. I only play heroes with 2 of my friends but we only see each other once or twice a month. But I been reading all the changes you made and i tlooks interesting. I like the buffs you gave to summoning, summoning needs more love =p I would wish if you could balance more spells and give some buff/debuff spells a spellpower boost to its bonuses not just how long it lasts. Also I looking forward to seeing more creatures balances especially to alternative upgrades. Also love how u made some artifacts more useful.
I am sure there is more people out there that would like this mode to be updated they are maybe just too shy or too passive to say anything.
So please dont stop working on it, and thank you
Oh and also yea, Frenzy doesnt need a buff, that spell is already good =p
Thank you so much for your words. I was already decided to make changes on creatures (i have been said in the description for future plans) because i want to change game. My plans is add new abilities to creatures and provide new and different strategies. And about the part of people not post and say about that mod. If nobody says anything, of course i don't know how many people play it i have need few players for discuss about strategy. Specially for future plans because adding different abilities on creatures, makes the game different. Some of the spells and artifacts becomes useful and some of them becomes less useful. And thank you for your interest.
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