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Promising
Supreme Hero
posted June 06, 2018 08:45 AM

fiorin said:
[but i think towers as treated like creatures on json.

Yes and no.
Yes -arrow towers are treated as creatures.
No - because arrow tower mechanics is diffirent. Arrow Towers have 1 HP (left and right) and 2 HP (main tower). And damage calculation is treated as "hit-miss" mechanics. If catapult hit - tower is destroyed (1 HP - 1 HP = 0 HP). If catapult miss - tower is untouched.

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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
posted June 06, 2018 11:49 AM

Yesterday I had this crazy idea about something that would actually be the absence of matter: a gaping hole, or gaping maw in the ground. The actual creature is obscured or burrowed, but capable of moving around the battlefield like a mole. In that sense, it can move about as if it's a flyer, unimpeded by obstacles, nor triggering traps that it travels by. When it attacks, it might show tentacles and/or a jaw with razorsharp teeth, lashing out against its target. The rim of the hole might be lined with rocks and the like.
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fiorin
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posted June 06, 2018 05:51 PM

53lm said:


Sorceress >> Priestess???



Thats a axolotl model i see. I thought some more natural



But i yet searching for maybe a non-humanoid creature on mythology contents

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fiorin said:
[but i think towers as treated like creatures on json.

Yes and no.
Yes -arrow towers are treated as creatures.
No - because arrow tower mechanics is diffirent. Arrow Towers have 1 HP (left and right) and 2 HP (main tower). And damage calculation is treated as "hit-miss" mechanics. If catapult hit - tower is destroyed (1 HP - 1 HP = 0 HP). If catapult miss - tower is untouched.



I see. So the idea cant be done, even for walls. But, if ballistics are a 'hit-miss', maybe we can affect hit chance on both sides of battle ? Something like give a negative bonus to both side catapults, then give a positive bonus to our catapult to make zero bonus again.

Maurice said:
Yesterday I had this crazy idea about something that would actually be the absence of matter: a gaping hole, or gaping maw in the ground. The actual creature is obscured or burrowed, but capable of moving around the battlefield like a mole. In that sense, it can move about as if it's a flyer, unimpeded by obstacles, nor triggering traps that it travels by. When it attacks, it might show tentacles and/or a jaw with razorsharp teeth, lashing out against its target. The rim of the hole might be lined with rocks and the like.


Me feeling its something like "Tremors" movie ? I like very much that worms , but... if the creature stays all the time on hole, how can be hitted ?

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Maurice
Maurice

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posted June 06, 2018 06:23 PM

fiorin said:
Me feeling its something like "Tremors" movie ? I like very much that worms , but... if the creature stays all the time on hole, how can be hitted ?


Good question. Perhaps the tentacles should remain above ground at any time, then? So those get hit?

And the base version could then have just the gaping maw with tentacles, while the upgrade also features jagged teeth and a salivating tongue .

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fiorin
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posted June 06, 2018 08:00 PM

53lm said:
fiorin said:
53lm said:



But i yet searching for maybe a non-humanoid creature on mythology contents


elephant


Buddy, the town is a celtic/irish/england/scottish/pagan... based myth

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53lm
53lm


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posted June 06, 2018 08:18 PM

fiorin said:
53lm said:
fiorin said:
53lm said:



But i yet searching for maybe a non-humanoid creature on mythology contents


elephant


Buddy, the town is a celtic/irish/england/scottish/pagan... based myth



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Supreme Hero
posted June 06, 2018 08:29 PM

Why you don't like fiorin's line-up?
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53lm
53lm


Hired Hero
posted June 06, 2018 08:34 PM
Edited by 53lm at 20:44, 06 Jun 2018.

Afanc



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PandaTar
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posted June 06, 2018 08:53 PM

fiorin said:

lvl7 --- Living Stones >> Living Ruins
For now, im using a Smite skin for the lvl7. I want a unique too, but just on future. Both are a slow, heavy creature. Stones have resistance from earth, ruins have immunity.  I wanted the upgraded one as a resilient creature with full regeneration and 250+ life. Its that too strong? Too useless? I thought too first about earthquake chance, or cast on battle beginning, but not so usefull off castle fight and maybe too strong on it.
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What u guys think about that ? Brainstorm me buddies


Yum Kaax

You could use that name, if you are willing to make a nature Stone-like being. Although I would point out you could make a Spiritual one as well, shapeshifter.
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Pavel
Pavel


Hired Hero
posted June 06, 2018 09:26 PM

Afanc looks better than peryton and cockotice

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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted June 06, 2018 10:15 PM
Edited by Macron1 at 22:17, 06 Jun 2018.

Pavel said:
Afanc looks better than peryton and cockotice


Nonsense.
Just create your own town and make all these creatures for it.
You seem to oppose every unit author made. Just make your own.

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VampMarcie
VampMarcie


Hired Hero
posted June 07, 2018 10:41 PM
Edited by VampMarcie at 22:43, 07 Jun 2018.

Fixed your hero speciality code. Only 1 of them worked in the latest release so use this template I always use (- = indent):

"specialty" : [
-{
--"bonuses" : [
---{
---"limiters" : [ { "parameters" : [ "rn_CREATURE", true ], "type" : "CREATURE_TYPE_LIMITER" } ],
---"type" : "TYPE_HERE",
---"subtype" : INTEGER,
---}
--],
--"growsWithLevel" : true
-}
],

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fiorin
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posted June 07, 2018 11:56 PM

VampMarcie said:
Fixed your hero speciality code. Only 1 of them worked in the latest release so use this template I always use (- = indent):

"specialty" : [
-{
--"bonuses" : [
---{
---"limiters" : [ { "parameters" : [ "rn_CREATURE", true ], "type" : "CREATURE_TYPE_LIMITER" } ],
---"type" : "TYPE_HERE",
---"subtype" : INTEGER,
---}
--],
--"growsWithLevel" : true
-}
],


Well, i thought was working the sintetized version:

"specialty" : {
---- "creature" : "rn_pygmy"
},

Gonna revised all them right now. Im adding the ones who are specialized on new creatures. Thanks for the advance.

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fiorin
fiorin


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posted June 08, 2018 12:05 AM

Macron1 said:
Pavel said:
Afanc looks better than peryton and cockotice


Nonsense.
Just create your own town and make all these creatures for it.
You seem to oppose every unit author made. Just make your own.



Macron1, thanks for teh defense. I admit, im really glad about all feedback, all ideas. Im doin the town, cause i like very much all the mod idea.

The Afanc is not a bad ideia, i searched about him and i thought could be, maybe an alternate creature. The images showed look so much a Hydra with one head. The Afanc description denotes something like a beaver-crocodile.

I like the Cockatrice idea. And Peryton. Both are famous mythological creatures, wich fits on heroes theme (elves, dragons, fairies)

PandaTar said:
fiorin said:

lvl7 --- Living Stones >> Living Ruins
For now, im using a Smite skin for the lvl7. I want a unique too, but just on future. Both are a slow, heavy creature. Stones have resistance from earth, ruins have immunity.  I wanted the upgraded one as a resilient creature with full regeneration and 250+ life. Its that too strong? Too useless? I thought too first about earthquake chance, or cast on battle beginning, but not so usefull off castle fight and maybe too strong on it.
--------

What u guys think about that ? Brainstorm me buddies


Yum Kaax

You could use that name, if you are willing to make a nature Stone-like being. Although I would point out you could make a Spiritual one as well, shapeshifter.


The problem i see with Yum Kaax its from Maya Pantheon. Too much different than another creatures.

Thats my idea for the future model Lvl7

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Supreme Hero
posted June 08, 2018 08:54 AM

fiorin said:

Well, i thought was working the sintetized version:

"specialty" : {
---- "creature" : "rn_pygmy"
},

Gonna revised all them right now. Im adding the ones who are specialized on new creatures. Thanks for the advance.


You're right. VampMarcie code is for older vcmi version (like official 0.99 release). Latest daily builds uses new, sintetized syntax:

Latest daily builds bring so many advantages, so players should update their vcmi version rather than holding backward compatibility.

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fiorin
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Famous Hero
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posted June 08, 2018 09:43 AM

avatar said:
fiorin said:

Well, i thought was working the sintetized version:

"specialty" : {
---- "creature" : "rn_pygmy"
},

Gonna revised all them right now. Im adding the ones who are specialized on new creatures. Thanks for the advance.


You're right. VampMarcie code is for older vcmi version (like official 0.99 release). Latest daily builds uses new, sintetized syntax:

Latest daily builds bring so many advantages, so players should update their vcmi version rather than holding backward compatibility.



I notice a bunch of improvements on new releases. Even im not using the lastest one.

Started today toying with the new townscreen

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RotflZord
RotflZord

Tavern Dweller
posted June 08, 2018 07:07 PM

I Would rather see some big ass spider at lvl 7 which can spawn small broodlings every turn. Living ruins looks like some lvl 2-3 stone zombies.
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fiorin
fiorin


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posted June 10, 2018 12:16 PM

Hows idea evolving..


Struggling with water shaders and textures, so... gonna leave to future that things

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fred79
fred79


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Undefeatable Hero
posted June 10, 2018 01:02 PM

You are making progress by leaps and bounds. I hope to learn as quickly as you are.

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fiorin
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posted June 10, 2018 09:03 PM

fred79 said:
You are making progress by leaps and bounds. I hope to learn as quickly as you are.


Thanks buddy. I know you gonna do good things!

I started modeling everything on the screen, but i saw how much time was taking on each building so some things, like the 3 houses on bottom (tavern, blacksmith, capitol) i downloadaded and changed a little bit to fit my idea to speedup the release.

Releasing a working version, i can improve the graphics and textures one by one. Yet, i need animate the Cockatrice and Peryton. But 0.97 gonna be releases without that

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