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posted July 04, 2020 07:15 PM |
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posted July 04, 2020 07:17 PM |
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posted July 04, 2020 07:18 PM |
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monere
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posted July 04, 2020 07:19 PM |
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No one is denying that that predefined universe didn't exist beforehand
fake scientists... ok, let's say misinformed scientists say it. And you side with them despite of the flawed logic
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It's just said that it contained everything within itself
even if it contained everything within itself it must still have existed in a predefined space, which is exactly where the flaw with this theory is
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All of space-time
time is not real. It's just an abstract notion that people have invented to keep track of the events happening in their lives
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posted July 04, 2020 07:21 PM |
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@any guy who is off-topic
Just move to random thoughts, no offense.
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posted July 04, 2020 07:39 PM |
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posted July 04, 2020 07:42 PM |
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I think you fell for the Erwin part, which I admit, is true (but I might be wrong and you didn't fall for it). Trap questions are fun! (Hehe, get it?)
Edit: You can should move this to random thoughts and just explain how you quote monere from here.
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posted July 04, 2020 07:56 PM |
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monere said:
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No one is denying that that predefined universe didn't exist beforehand
fake scientists... ok, let's say misinformed scientists say it. And you side with them despite of the flawed logic
I don't really see how it is flawed.
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It's just said that it contained everything within itself
even if it contained everything within itself it must still have existed in a predefined space, which is exactly where the flaw with this theory is
I'm not arguing that predefined space isn't the universe. I'm saying that that's not the universe we know. Which is why I used the egg/yolk analogy. Same universe, different form. There's a reason why we say "the universe as we know it".
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All of space-time
time is not real. It's just an abstract notion that people have invented to keep track of the events happening in their lives
Time vs space-time are different. Time is one dimensional, but space-time is four dimensional. But yes you are right, time is not real, but it still contained the concept of time within it. One could argue that it contained all concepts within it.
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monere
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posted July 04, 2020 08:28 PM |
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I'm saying that that's not the universe we know
maybe the universe YOU know, but the universe I know is the same universe in all directions, till infinity, and it has never been born, created, or discovered. It had just existed in its current form (if it even has a form) long before humans have even existed.
And this is not my theory, this is a theory I have read in SF books and common sense has told me that it's a pertinent theory, so I have endorsed it.
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There's a reason why we say "the universe as we know it"
I think that, too. Except that the reason for which I say that is probably different to the reason you say it. When I say "the universe as we know it" I am referring exclusively the known part of the universe, not the part that scientists speculate it had been created during the Big Bang.
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Time is one dimensional
time has no dimension. Only things that can be physically measured have dimensions and time can't be physically measured because it doesn't exist (it's an invention of humans), therefore it has no dimension(s)
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but it still contained the concept of time within it. One could argue that it contained all concepts within it
now you're really beating around the bush 
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posted July 04, 2020 08:30 PM |
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THE SOMETHING DID I SAY ABOUT MOVING FROM HERE?
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posted July 04, 2020 08:31 PM |
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FirePaladin said:
THE SOMETHING DID I SAY ABOUT MOVING FROM HERE?
You don't like these discussion don't read them
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posted July 04, 2020 08:33 PM |
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That's not what I meant. It's off-topic. So move it.
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monere
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posted July 04, 2020 08:36 PM |
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FirePaladin said:
That's not what I meant. It's off-topic. So move it.
It's not off-topic because I have posted a poll about Big Bang when you have been offline
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posted July 04, 2020 08:38 PM |
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I've seen it. But this topic isn't about debating bing bang or any other stuff derived from any kind of answer in a question, on entire pages.
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posted July 04, 2020 08:40 PM |
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monere said:
maybe the universe YOU know, but the universe I know is the same universe in all directions, till infinity, and it has never been born, created, or discovered. It had just existed in its current form (if it even has a form) long before humans have even existed.
Uh yeah.... the universe is roughly 13.8 billion years old. Earth is only 4.54 billion years old. So yeah, the universe has existed in it's current form for a very, very, long time. Sooooooo, the universe has existed in its current state long before humans were even a spec in the primordial ooze.
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I think that, too. Except that the reason for which I say that is probably different to the reason you say it. When I say "the universe as we know it" I am referring exclusively the known part of the universe, not the part that scientists speculate it had been created during the Big Bang.
You do realize that "known universe" means the part that we can visibly observe. We have no idea what lies beyond our vision. As we literally can't see that far into space.
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time has no dimension. Only things that can be physically measured have dimensions and time can't be physically measured because it doesn't exist (it's an invention of humans), therefore it has no dimension(s)
Time does have a dimension actually. Time is linear. It moves in one direction and one direction only. Forwards.
The First Dimension is a line. That's it. A literal line. Which is exactly what time is. A line that only moves forwards. Never backwards. Time is one dimensional.
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posted July 04, 2020 08:40 PM |
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unless moderators move it I'll continue replying whenever I want to say something. Deal with it!
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posted July 04, 2020 08:44 PM |
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By move I meant continue it somewhere else. But well, ok, if you both decide to write what you want where you want, what can I do about it? Just bury the actual thread under your replies, and then don't wonder why nobody answers anything.
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posted July 04, 2020 08:58 PM |
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the universe is roughly 13.8 billion years old
how do you know the age of the universe?
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So yeah, the universe has existed in it's current form for a very, very, long time
again (because you seem to keep making confusions) when I say "universe" I am referring to the space around the planets because that space is what the scientists are trying to justify through Big Bang, not the matter that fills up the space. And the space is infinite and uncreated by anyone/anything
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You do realize that "known universe" means the part that we can visibly observe. We have no idea what lies beyond our vision. As we literally can't see that far into space.
yep, that's what I said
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It moves in one direction and one direction only. Forwards.
time doesn't move in any direction because it doesn't exist. Due to the associating of time with the rotation of Earth around its axis time has become synonym with the rotation of the Earth which is what makes us believe that time is real and that it flows. But in reality it doesn't exist.
Also, regarding the direction in which time moves... directions are things that are exclusively related to space, not time, which is you can't say that time moves. (I am genuinely sorry that I don't know how to express myself better, but I lack scientific vocabulary)
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Just bury the actual thread under your replies, and then don't wonder why nobody answers anything
hehe, you actually got a point here. Ok, I'll stop replying
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posted July 05, 2020 09:20 AM |
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FirePaladin said:
What is the thing that bothers me the most at H6? I'm also an anti-Erwin, btw.
1. The spells.
2. The lack of factions.
3. The skilltree.
4. The green Necropolis.
5. The Core-Elite-Champion system.
Edit: I wasn't sure it was my turn, so I decided to not do it right then.
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posted July 05, 2020 10:50 AM |
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You finally got the "Nope", fair and square.
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