NimoStar said:

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Every campaign since I have made remastered versions of all original and expansions.

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NimoStar said:

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No, it's not the "original unmodded table" (that one is easy), it's the table used in Greatest Mod whose original (unpacked) file I lost.

To continue modding, I need to be able to edit it but that is no longer possible as the only remaining version is packed in an h4r made with resedit2 (unopenable)

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BlackVuk said:

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Maybe this question was asked billion times.
But I wasted 3 hours looking for an answer.

Question is>

Is there a tool that can>
Extract .h4r (ANY .h4r package)
- In order to edit .h4c campaign maps
Then those edited .h4c maps back inside original .h4r package.

SPECIFICALLY HOMM4.
Many recommended tools such as
H4 Resource Editor--- Unfortunately for whatever reason I do not know if this tool can pack stuff inside. Extract, yes. Import? No.
Perhaps Im doing something wrong. Help would be lovely.

mh4--- Again only good for extracting.

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BlackVuk said:

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Maybe this question was asked billion times.
But I wasted 3 hours looking for an answer.

Question is>

Is there a tool that can>
Extract .h4r (ANY .h4r package)
- In order to edit .h4c campaign maps
Then those edited .h4c maps back inside original .h4r package.

SPECIFICALLY HOMM4.
Many recommended tools such as
H4 Resource Editor--- Unfortunately for whatever reason I do not know if this tool can pack stuff inside. Extract, yes. Import? No.
Perhaps Im doing something wrong. Help would be lovely.

mh4--- Again only good for extracting.

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BlackVuk said:

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Thank you kindly for the helpings. I'll certainly try again.

My most irk is with barbarian(might) campaign on champion difficulty. Just want to add some form of healing without cheating. As I find absolute time waste to play a map for 24months -ingame in order to proceed.

EDIT-
I see where I made a mistake. I tried to add edited map back into the container and it broke the whole package.

So it is best practice to extract everything out of the container?
And then edit maps to my preference and then all those extracted+edited maps back in the new container (name file doesn't matter, we certainly have to rename like OG and keep OG container somewhere safe).

Again thanks for help. I am in the middle of doing just that. I'll edit post later to inform you of my success.

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iliveinabox05 said:

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Yeah best practice is to extract the maps, edit them, and then add them into a completely new h4r container.

The name does matter. For WoW you should name your h4r container "new.h4r", and for Equilibris it should be "new_mod.h4r"

Once you drop the h4r container in the Data folder, the h4c map files you have edited and packed into the container will override the ones in the other game h4r files.

If you want to test it, simply add a display message on the first day of the first map to see that this works

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BlackVuk said:

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I made a bit of a stump.
So inside .h4r container for campaign there is another container .h4d

Naturally the tool  extract directly from .h4r container the elusive maps .h4c

How do I create .h4d container?
When I go to File -> New. I only have options for container .h4r and action object and actor sequence.

Is it the same compression ratio between .h4r and .h4d?
Like creating false .h4r and just rename to proper .h4d?

Nevermind the tool does it for me. It puts in the correct path order. I think. It looks like it. Bit odd but convenient.

I can directly add .h4c in the resourceEditor, yes?

UGH this will take FOREVER. But tnx again.

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NimoStar said:

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except the program still added the unnecessary and wrong bytes thus the campaigns are unplayable after repacking, last I checked. When fix? Can we haz fix'?

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BlackVuk said:

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Yeah I have to agree. Program simply do not repack the extracted stuff back in the container correctly.

Thus the difference in the package size.

Other than that, I also gave up notion of editing the campaigns simply for practical reasons. Too much time and too much things that can go horribly wrong.

I mean, I don't want to cheat, just make the game a little more practical in champion mode. And all that nonce I need 4-8 hours hoping I didn't mess the file order in the package. Just to be greeted with fail.
Quite disheartening. But!
Thanks ya'll for helpings. The thought counts for sure.

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iliveinabox05 said:

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BlackVuk said:

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Yeah I have to agree. Program simply do not repack the extracted stuff back in the container correctly.

Thus the difference in the package size.

Other than that, I also gave up notion of editing the campaigns simply for practical reasons. Too much time and too much things that can go horribly wrong.

I mean, I don't want to cheat, just make the game a little more practical in champion mode. And all that nonce I need 4-8 hours hoping I didn't mess the file order in the package. Just to be greeted with fail.
Quite disheartening. But!
Thanks ya'll for helpings. The thought counts for sure.

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Hmm, I've had zero issues with it, so not sure what's going on.

From your quote above it sounds like you're still trying to pack it back into heroes4.h4r or one of the other game files, which will not work. Also not sure about what you mean when you say the difference in package size.

I'll take a few minutes when I get home tonight to test out the currently available resource editor to see if I just for some reason didn't upload a version with this working.

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BlackVuk said:

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iliveinabox05 said:

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BlackVuk said:

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Yeah I have to agree. Program simply do not repack the extracted stuff back in the container correctly.

Thus the difference in the package size.

Other than that, I also gave up notion of editing the campaigns simply for practical reasons. Too much time and too much things that can go horribly wrong.

I mean, I don't want to cheat, just make the game a little more practical in champion mode. And all that nonce I need 4-8 hours hoping I didn't mess the file order in the package. Just to be greeted with fail.
Quite disheartening. But!
Thanks ya'll for helpings. The thought counts for sure.

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Hmm, I've had zero issues with it, so not sure what's going on.

From your quote above it sounds like you're still trying to pack it back into heroes4.h4r or one of the other game files, which will not work. Also not sure about what you mean when you say the difference in package size.

I'll take a few minutes when I get home tonight to test out the currently available resource editor to see if I just for some reason didn't upload a version with this working.

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Well, first things first.
There are two ways to extract stuff.
-Keep directory structure
--Single directory

If I take first option, its beyond unpractical, or I do something wrong, because program outright refuse to add extracted content from anything other than final folder container.
And Im not gonna repeat that thing 1000 times from all the folders that are extracted because I wanted to change single mission/s adding hero with regeneration or something stupid like that.

And if I go Single directory option, then it's much more manageable, however, the issue i get is... after adding "layers", the program just stops adding last three folders. Does nothing. Can't add, extract, save. I checked memory, it was fine 55%. i thought my RAM run out.

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iliveinabox05 said:

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I have no idea what you're trying to do. Maybe I have options available that shouldn't be, but the only thing you need to do to extract is navigate to the game maps, then right click each one and select extract..

Are you trying to extract the entire h4r file? Don't do that Simply use the + to expand the list of files and go extract the game maps individually.

Edit. Also I think maybe I only implemented correctly extracting the game maps if they are selected individually and extracted via right click -> extract. I think I would probably also need to look at extracting more than one game file at a time via the multi-h4d extract approach.

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BlackVuk said:

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iliveinabox05 said:

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I have no idea what you're trying to do. Maybe I have options available that shouldn't be, but the only thing you need to do to extract is navigate to the game maps, then right click each one and select extract..

Are you trying to extract the entire h4r file? Don't do that Simply use the + to expand the list of files and go extract the game maps individually.

Edit. Also I think maybe I only implemented correctly extracting the game maps if they are selected individually and extracted via right click -> extract. I think I would probably also need to look at extracting more than one game file at a time via the multi-h4d extract approach.

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Then I making something horribly wrong.
Yes. I extract entire package, since ya'll told me I can't add stuff inside already existing package.

And I need to create new package.
My logic was, that I need to extract everything up, edit the maps ONLY, and then add back everything extracted in the new package+ edited maps ofc, in order to pack things up and work.

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iliveinabox05 said:

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Ah I see, a misunderstanding!

I'll take some screenshots for you and post them so you can see what I mean.

The gist of it is this:

1) Extract the game maps individually from the game h4r file, such as heroes4.h4r for the base campaigns.
2) Open the maps in the game editor and make your edits
3) Create a new h4r container using the resource editor and add ONLY the edited maps to it.
4) Save the h4r file as new.h4r for WoW or new_mod.h4r for Equilibris.

The extracting and packing should take almost no time at all. The only thing that will take any time is making the edits you want to the maps using the h4 editor.

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BlackVuk said:

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iliveinabox05 said:

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Ah I see, a misunderstanding!

I'll take some screenshots for you and post them so you can see what I mean.

The gist of it is this:

1) Extract the game maps individually from the game h4r file, such as heroes4.h4r for the base campaigns.
2) Open the maps in the game editor and make your edits
3) Create a new h4r container using the resource editor and add ONLY the edited maps to it.
4) Save the h4r file as new.h4r for WoW or new_mod.h4r for Equilibris.

The extracting and packing should take almost no time at all. The only thing that will take any time is making the edits you want to the maps using the h4 editor.

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Welp that is easy peasy for sure. But how that works?
How will game read those edited maps?
As a mod? as a standalone scenario? This needs tutorial for sure. Too much presumptions even on some things you'd find it logical.

It won't do me as a standalone scenario, or a separate mod, would kill my vibe playing custom stuff. I mean, in case of scenario for example, putting maps back in the container would even be unnecessary, just slap in the scenario folder then.

I am of confusion.

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