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Milamber
Adventuring Hero
Magician of the greater path
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posted May 05, 2002 04:19 AM |
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Rouges Are They UseFull
in Heroes II rouges were a sort of level one creature if not a level two creature. and could be quite useful in large amounts. also they were easy to get in thier rouge camps.(and werent very expensive).
Now in Heroes III (armageddons blade)
With thier special ability to "spy" it is most beneficial to have them with you.
they are the second level creature of the nomads (Misc.)
with the enchanters, fairy dragons, and sharpshooters all besting them by alot.
Are They Usefull?
send in what you think
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Delcor
Tavern Dweller
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posted May 06, 2002 12:52 AM |
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I like Rogues a lot. It's nice to have permanent Visions.
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Gem
Known Hero
Sorceress/Druid
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posted May 09, 2002 02:41 PM |
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But too bad they don't have No enemy retaliation...they are too fragile I heard.
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Odvin
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted May 09, 2002 04:36 PM |
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In the beginning of the game I always get them if I can, because there are not so much creatures in my army (enough slots to fill with Rogues  ) and they are very useful to identify monsters. I never let them attack enemies in battles.
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Gem
Known Hero
Sorceress/Druid
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posted May 11, 2002 07:38 AM |
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The spying is good. Like I've said earlier, however, they don't have "No enemy retaliation" unlike that pf HeroesII.
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armageddonun...
Tavern Dweller
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posted May 20, 2002 04:59 PM |
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Rogues are especially great at the beginning of the game. You split up so that all your empty 'adventure map' slots are taken with individual rogues and get them to go and grab all the loot. They can run past the 1st & 2nd level creatures and give you a huge economic boost to get ahead of your human opponents (comp opponents are useless regardless IMO). You can cause havoc if they can somehow make it too your opponents lands early on (looting all their stuff). When their usefulness is nearing an end, you can sacrifice em to grab one last free loot from tough creatures that you can't face for a while yet, or from enemy lands. The monsters auto-attack when you grab their adjacent loot (level 3 & 4's anyway vs rogues). Add to all that, that they're freeing up your Heroes having to waste time grabbing loot. You can even steal artifacts and ferry them back to your Hero. Vs good human opponents, rogues are nearly too good for the edge they can provide (depending greatly upon the map).
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PhoebeDuViels
Known Hero
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posted May 21, 2002 03:34 AM |
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In the beginning of the game I always get them if I can, because there are not so much creatures in my army (enough slots to fill with Rogues ) and they are very useful to identify monsters. I never let them attack enemies in battles.
Same as I do...
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Milamber
Adventuring Hero
Magician of the greater path
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posted May 25, 2002 11:13 AM |
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-----------------------------------------------------------"Rogues are especially great at the beginning of the game. You split up so that all your empty 'adventure map' slots are taken with individual rogues and get them to go and grab all the loot. They can run past the 1st & 2nd level creatures and give you a huge economic boost to get ahead of your human opponents (comp opponents are useless regardless IMO). You can cause havoc if they can somehow make it too your opponents lands early on (looting all their stuff). When their usefulness is nearing an end, you can sacrifice em to grab one last free loot from tough creatures that you can't face for a while yet, or from enemy lands. The monsters auto-attack when you grab their adjacent loot (level 3 & 4's anyway vs rogues). Add to all that, that they're freeing up your Heroes having to waste time grabbing loot. You can even steal artifacts and ferry them back to your Hero. Vs good human opponents, rogues are nearly too good for the edge they can provide (depending greatly upon the map)."
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"You can even steal artifacts and ferry them back to your Hero"
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"They can run past the 1st & 2nd level creatures and give you a huge economic boost to get ahead of your human opponents (comp opponents are useless regardless IMO). You can cause havoc if they can somehow make it too your opponents lands early on (looting all their stuff)"
i didnt know you could do that (unless you mean something entirely different to what i think it means).
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Nebuka
Promising
Supreme Hero
Save me Jebus!
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posted May 26, 2002 01:48 PM |
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He was talking about Heroes 4 and you obviously thought about rogues in Heroes 3...
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matthy
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
banned
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posted May 26, 2002 02:32 PM |
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HoMM III rogues rocked a$$. i dont know 'bout IV tho, havnet played so much...
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Dajek
Known Hero
Psychedelic Knight
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posted May 26, 2002 03:02 PM |
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Argh! Mathhy, why is your signature like it is?
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ElvenKing
Tavern Dweller
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posted May 28, 2002 02:50 AM |
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Well, I don't know about how useful they are in battle but I just love to put them around the map because they are invisible and can surprise players. I am one mean map maker, I am.
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted May 28, 2002 08:58 AM |
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Ypu guys forgot to mention thy most important thang about these rougues but mentioned part of it LOL.
Yes they have thy Vision which will benefit big time with DIPLOMACY.
you dont need the spell if you have rougues so you can see say a pack of devils & see if they will join or not, if you come around them you should pick them up & have them in good use lol.
I also heard that if you dont have many rougues they can lie to you but not seen any proof of that yet
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Odvin
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted May 28, 2002 09:51 AM |
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Edited By: Odvin on 28 May 2002
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I also heard that if you dont have many rougues they can lie to you but not seen any proof of that yet
Hmm... As far as I remember, my Rogues once told me that the monsters would flee. They attacked...
But I don't remember how much Rogues there were in my army...
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milamber
Adventuring Hero
Magician of the greater path
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posted December 11, 2003 09:51 AM |
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of course heroes 4. well when i posted that i hadn't played it yet but yes now i can see what you mean.
and yes they do lie i had 4 rouges and they said they would attack and they joined.
(it has also happened to my brother on several occasions.)
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