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posted March 09, 2021 06:18 PM |
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What's a good program for sight reading?
I want to be able to sight read music decently well. Any recommended programs for this? I played in the brass so I already have background knowledge but this is for singing.
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posted March 09, 2021 10:38 PM |
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Edited by Corribus at 22:39, 09 Mar 2021.
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Never been good at it, myself. I have to memorize everything I play. I think it just takes a lot of practice.
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posted March 09, 2021 11:33 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 23:35, 09 Mar 2021.
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Pick up easy, beginner-friendly partitions. Read it in rhythm, at a tempo that allows you to read in advance. Once you get comfortable you can get harder partitions, and fasten the tempo. Make it a progressive, step by step process.
Practice everyday.
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posted March 10, 2021 12:43 AM |
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Galaad said:
Pick up easy, beginner-friendly partitions. Read it in rhythm, at a tempo that allows you to read in advance. Once you get comfortable you can get harder partitions, and fasten the tempo. Make it a progressive, step by step process.
Practice everyday.
This is useless because I have no way to check myself to see if I'm singing it right or if I even started the first note correctly (I'm starting off as a complete beginner with sight reading songs).
Obviously if I already know the tune of a song it's unnecessary because I can just sing it but I'd like to be able to have a page of music and then sing it without having to listen to it.
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Galaad
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posted March 10, 2021 08:06 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 08:53, 10 Mar 2021.
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Then it is useless to ask how to sightread and sing it if you don't know how the notes and intervals sound like. You need to learn that first. Otherwise it's as if you wanted to read in Russian but somehow forgot to learn Cyrillic.
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posted March 10, 2021 09:49 AM |
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Sight reading has not much to do with correct intonation/playing, more with the ability to read in advance, force your brain to ignore the errors on the way while trying to read music as full and coherent sentences and not anymore as individual notes.
Of course, good readers will be able to do both, but as beginner if you focus on intonation above all, sight reading will never progress.
However Galaad is also right, you need a minimum of skill before you start sight reading. Then a piano if is about singing.
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posted March 10, 2021 12:25 PM |
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Galaad said:
Then it is useless to ask how to sightread and sing it if you don't know how the notes and intervals sound like. You need to learn that first. Otherwise it's as if you wanted to read in Russian but somehow forgot to learn Cyrillic.
HC is the most bizarre place in the universe.
If I knew what the notes sounded like without hearing them first I would already be able to do sight reading lol. What do you think I'm asking about?
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Galaad
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posted March 10, 2021 12:28 PM |
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A lot of musicians do know perfectly how the notes sound like yet aren't able to sight-read. The former is a prerequesite if you want to sing a partition.
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posted March 10, 2021 01:14 PM |
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Lol, blizz. What you’re asking to learn is note reading, not sight-reading. You want to recognize the musical note not just as a text sign (as in this is a C) but also as a sound. That is to have a musical ear, you must memorize what each note sounds like and match it by memory. How do you think people tune their instruments by ear?
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posted March 10, 2021 01:28 PM |
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People call that sight reading.
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posted March 10, 2021 02:56 PM |
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Looking at the answers, you get, it doesnt seem like they do. Would you call tuning your instrument “sight-reading?
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posted March 10, 2021 03:03 PM |
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People call reading music sight reading. If you can sing notes without hearing it you are sight reading, or "sight singing". Maybe they can't do a whole song very well but they're still doing it. This is totally off base anyway. I thought some people here might have some program suggestions.
Right now I'm using Earmaster, which works pretty well but I'm doing a lot more than just practicing sight reading.
edit: Nevermind. Somebody on another forum hooked me up.
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posted March 10, 2021 06:58 PM |
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No, in professional world sight-reading means the ability to play an unknown piece, with minimum errors and while never stopping or correcting at all.
It's a discipline which is taught in every Conservatory around the world, because it is part of every contest, when being hired by an orchestra for example. They simply want to be sure you can be as fast to learn something as everyone around, otherwise you are a burden for that orchestra.
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posted March 10, 2021 07:05 PM |
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An orchestra suddenly sounds so Darwinian. 
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Galaad
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posted March 10, 2021 11:57 PM |
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Yes, you got confused Bboy.
If you read notes without hearing them, you are unable to sing them, since you don't hear them, doh.
Don't forget about the rhythm too, it's actually more important than the notes.
I don't think learning the sounds of notes by ear training programs is the way, I think playing an instrument and learning to sing the notes from there is. Piano is a good pick, as you can hit any key alone and it will sound good. Then you can explore...
I would suggest doing it the other way around: Try to reproduce on an instrument what you hear, a song you like, try to write it down too. This is real musical work that will provide you self satisfaction and happiness.
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posted March 11, 2021 12:22 AM |
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No, I'm not confused, lol. I'm still sticking with the common definition that literally everybody I've ever met and Wikipedia and Google uses rather than what one musician on HC says.
Like I said, I played in the brass in the past so I can already do rhythm. I can also sing in tune as long as I know what I'm singing. I just want to be able to read notes on a page and match them to the correct voice pitch so that I can sing them. It's a fairly simple and straightforward question but on HC it's apparently really complicated. I'm not joining a professional opera or something lol. wtf.
You guys go ahead and talk about whatever you want to talk about now.
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Galaad
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posted March 11, 2021 12:30 AM |
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Sorry for trying to help, good luck.
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posted March 11, 2021 12:36 AM |
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I'm perplexed more than anything. Do you only consider somebody able to sight read if they can pick up a super complicated piece of music and sing it flawlessly in a professional choir? Does your city not have kids in school that sing as an extracurricular activity for fun or something? People dabble with it as a hobby you realize. It's not just a job.
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Galaad
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posted March 11, 2021 12:39 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 00:42, 11 Mar 2021.
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No, I'm trying to help you reading music. My first post says pick something simple. Then you tell me you don't hear the notes. I tell you that you need to learn them.
I suggest doing it while playing music because that is the fun of it. Ear training programs is actually a tool students use for becoming professional.
Edit: Now that you bring it up, joining an amateur choir should be great for you.
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posted March 11, 2021 12:42 AM |
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Okay. Thank you for your advice.
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