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Salamandre
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posted June 13, 2021 11:36 PM |
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A closer comparison would be the female circumcision, since it has closer effects to sex reassignment, is irreversible and causes psychological troubles later, unlike the male one.
Wouldn't you say the dudes cutting little girls are nuts?
Also, observing the trans post op struggles, a scientific test would be needed - isolate let's say one thousand people asking for surgery, sex-reassign half of them then refuse surgery to the other half. Observe for 25 years, create statistics - health, suicide rate, personal achievement, social interactions success etc. Right now is nothing scientific but an experiment.
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fred79
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posted June 13, 2021 11:41 PM |
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artu said:
you are incapable of understanding how analogies are made
this is you, guy. you are incapable of a great number of things, apparently. one of them, being coherent and logical and/or independent thought.
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artu
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posted June 13, 2021 11:54 PM |
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Edited by artu at 23:55, 13 Jun 2021.
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@Sal
Both are irreversible but female circumcision is much more dangerous. (Of course, that also has something to do with the fact that it’s an African tradition and operations usually take place under very poor conditions.)
But in extreme majority of the cases, that is forced on women, it is not their own choice. So preference doesnt exist to begin with. I wouldnt call it nuts, I’d call it more: oppression, slavery level oppression actually, since, in a way, it’s like somebody else owns their body. Women in Africa usually dont have civil rights, especially in Islamic countries, so that’s completely incomparable.
But for a minute, let’s assume, something really weird happened, the tradition stuck and centuries later, some African women willingly started have female circumcision, would that be a mental delusion?
(And as far as I know sex-change surgeries go way back to 1970’s or something, so it’s been 25 years already. You can say it’s a risky decision, but that’s why people go through psychiatric evaluation before it’s permitted anyway.)
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fred79
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posted June 14, 2021 12:07 AM |
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artu said:
female circumcision is much more dangerous.
see what i mean? nobody in their right mind thinks cutting off a tiny clitoris is more dangerous than turning an entire penis inside out like a sock. you DO realize there is so much more cutting involved, and that you can bleed to death if you cut wrong for a male reassignment surgery? you DO realize that removing a little nub vs leaving a gaping wound that you have to stretch and clean DAILY so that it doesn't get infected are nowhere NEAR equatable, right?
you DO realize that, right? you're not just completely off your rocker?
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Salamandre
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posted June 14, 2021 12:09 AM |
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artu said:
@SalBoth are irreversible
Foreskin restoration is quite common. It works 100%.
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JollyJoker
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posted June 14, 2021 12:11 AM |
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Dude, that's what you have to do, if you want to change. Didn't you read or watch the Little Mermaid?
Don*t you see how you completely mess up the conclusion? If someone actually DOES THAT WILLINGLY - how desperate they must be?
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artu
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posted June 14, 2021 12:16 AM |
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Edited by artu at 00:33, 14 Jun 2021.
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fred79 said:
artu said:
you are incapable of understanding how analogies are made
this is you, guy. you are incapable of a great number of things, apparently. one of them, being coherent and logical and/or independent thought.
For the last time, I will try to assume that you have the cognitive skills of a person who is older than 16 and try to spell this out to you:
Chicken body trans person meme:
Motive: Degrade a group of people by vulgarizing their physical appearance and making them look cartoonishly ugly.
Method: Using an extremely shallow and far-fetched resemblance: Both operated genitals of trans people and unstuffed chicken have holes between their legs.
Monkey like black person meme:
Motive: Degrade a group of people by vulgarizing their physical appearance and making them look cartoonishly ugly.
Method: Using an extremely shallow and far-fetched resemblance: Both humans and monkeys belong to the primate family.
Now, when someone says how the first meme is wrong and tasteless because its mentality is no different than the second one, it is not racist, it is actually saying it is as wrong as such racism.
And when someone who actually says things like “the patriots are the firearm owning white Americans” etc, calls the above racist, it sounds quite pathetic. When the same person claims it is the other one without logic, it sounds lunatic.
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fred79
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posted June 14, 2021 12:17 AM |
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Edited by fred79 at 00:18, 14 Jun 2021.
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JollyJoker said:
Dude, that's what you have to do, if you want to change. Didn't you read or watch the Little Mermaid?
Don*t you see how you completely mess up the conclusion? If someone actually DOES THAT WILLINGLY - how desperate they must be?
people also willingly have horns surgically installed in their heads, get body tattoos and split their tongues to look like lizards, screw corpses, animals, and children, eat feces, and torture people to death for the hell of it. they must also be desperate, right? or does mental illness NOT exist?
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artu
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posted June 14, 2021 12:18 AM |
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Salamandre said:
artu said:
@SalBoth are irreversible
Foreskin restoration is quite common. It works 100%.
I didnt know that, thanks for the info. Rest of the points stand.
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artu
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posted June 14, 2021 12:26 AM |
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Edited by artu at 00:28, 14 Jun 2021.
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fred79 said:
People also willingly have horns surgically installed in their heads, get body tattoos and split their tongues to look like lizards, screw corpses, animals, and children, eat feces, and torture people to death for the hell of it. they must also be desperate, right? or does mental illness NOT exist?
If you really believe you are a lizard, you are mentally ill, if you believe spliting your tongue will make you an actual lizard, you are mentally ill. If you think it’s cool to split your tongue because it looks like a lizards, that’s your business.
And there are no genetic and hormonal factors that actually give you lizard urges. The motive and the pressure of the motive is incomparable.
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fred79
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posted June 14, 2021 12:38 AM |
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man, you are SO close to reason... if you could just take that itsy, bitsy step...
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posted June 14, 2021 12:54 AM |
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Artu, the problem with your discourse is that you are insisting on an absurdity and it won't simply go away, because people know it is wrong. The fact that the scientific establishment currently supports it means nada; scientists have supported Lysenko, Mengele, Teller, et caterva, because that was the party line orthodoxy. Nonetheless, you frame the debate in such a way that we must abandon our critical sense like a herd of sheep, you put us in the position well phrased by Groucho Marx - "Who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?" and proceed to insult us as unintelligent, ignorant and fascists for not adhering to this ideology.
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artu
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posted June 14, 2021 01:50 AM |
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Edited by artu at 02:01, 14 Jun 2021.
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If by people, you mean you or fred, I’d place my bet on the scientific community any day. 
Besides, stop making it sound like I havent explained why it is not and shouldnt be considered a mental illness rationally. Every time you run out of arguments (and trust me, you dont have very bright ones to begin with), you either post some moronic meme or you start this same old empty rhetoric of how everybody (not people?) blindly follow the mainstream media and how all the experts are the puppets of the system… I didnt only link experts and scientific definitions, I refuted your half-baked opinions every time you opened your mouth. Sheep? You are defending conservative values and “common sense,” trying to base an argument on how everybody knows what makes sense already and somehow the opposition becomes sheep? Man, you are funny.
Here’s the thing, it’s all about your capacity to think abstract. If that department is not so strong, your “common sense” will work shallow. You’ll think, “but that’s so obvious” about things that arent so. Why dont we fall down, if the world isnt flat and spinning around, right. That was also common sense and it’s perfectly understandable that it was. Gender = genitals, makes perfect sense, until neorology starts to display a different picture. Something that doesnt suddenly meet the eye.
P.S. Oh, and the Mengele part is pure demagogy, he was a Nazi doctor under the Nazi regime, practicing unethical experiments. How is that relevant to any consensus by the scientific community? Did Mengele come up with some refuted hypothesis, yet all the doctors of the world supported that? Did Mengele had a theory that was accepted as true worldwide, though it wasnt? Pffff…
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fred79
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posted June 14, 2021 03:00 AM |
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Edited by fred79 at 03:01, 14 Jun 2021.
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the so-called "scientific community" got paid off, genius. i know you haven't noticed, but EVERYONE with any real influence are now part of the globalist bs. they can threaten whoever they want and pay off whoever they want, and nobody's doing anything about it, because people like YOU exist to help spread their bs to the masses and demonize, ostrasize, and attack anyone against it. 
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artu
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posted June 14, 2021 03:31 AM |
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fred, using the word genius in a sarcastic manner only works when you’re not wearing your tin foil hat.
btw, “community” is a figure of speech, when you say scientific community, you are talking about all the scientists in the world (not just US), peer checking each other’s conclusions constantly, looking for gaps and inconsistencies. The evil globalist illuminati of the five families of the Rotshchild masons must have a hell of a bribing mechanism.
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posted June 14, 2021 04:14 AM |
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I quote from transsexual slangs
" “blanchtard” [slur] (noun): someone who agrees with Ray Blanchard on transgender issues, especially his views on paraphilia. Portmanteau of Blanchard + retard."
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fred79
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posted June 14, 2021 06:10 AM |
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Edited by fred79 at 06:14, 14 Jun 2021.
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artu said:
fred, using the word genius in a sarcastic manner only works when you’re not wearing your tin foil hat.
btw, “community” is a figure of speech, when you say scientific community, you are talking about all the scientists in the world (not just US), peer checking each other’s conclusions constantly, looking for gaps and inconsistencies. The evil globalist illuminati of the five families of the Rotshchild masons must have a hell of a bribing mechanism.
hurr durr "tin foil hat" durrr. great comeback, really. the only problem with calling me a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist, is that you're flat snowing wrong. see, you have to actually have facts on your side, to claim someone standing against those facts is a conspiracy theorist. but, the facts are on MY side. what does that make you? a conspiracy denier? have you ever ONCE admitted that conspiracies even exist? that there's documented proof they have existed? would it also stand to reason that there are conspiracies that have not yet been revealed, but there is evidence for?
understand something: it's not just myself and gandalf who are more informed than you that you would call "conspiracy theorists". there may be only 2 here at hc, but there are millions of people more informed than you and the other deniers here at hc; and more people are finding out the truth all the time.
so go ahead and laugh; just know that you and people like you are the joke. 
and IF the rothschilds and the other insanely rich families are the ones behind it all, then don't you think that... gee... i dunno... money, power, or threats might coerce people? do you think before you type, or do you just bang your head on the keyboard and rearrange the letters into words?
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Salamandre
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posted June 14, 2021 09:04 AM |
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artu said:
Rest of the points stand.
What points? You start to debate JJ style : when I say "removing your genitals for no medical reason is being nuts", your answer is :
artu said:
If mutilating body parts was enough to conclude that a decision is “nuts” then how about millions of people with circumcision? Is that okay because it is religious tradition?
Which is not what I was saying, but stretching it to absurd. Then I follow your logic and say "female circ is closer as effect, dudes cutting little girls are nuts", then your answer is :
artu said:
I wouldnt call it nuts, I’d call it more: oppression, slavery level oppression actually, since, in a way, it’s like somebody else owns their body. Women in Africa usually dont have civil rights, especially in Islamic countries, so that’s completely incomparable.
Those are not points, this is artu interpreting what's being said in the way he needs.
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posted June 14, 2021 09:13 AM |
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Except that he is right.
If you decide to have your breasts removed, because you're running breast cancer in the family, you aren't nuts.
If a couple of people are hitting you in the head and cutting off your breasts while you're unconscious, it's a case of severe assault and mutilation against you and hasn't got anything to do with you aand your mental state.
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posted June 14, 2021 09:45 AM |
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artu said:
If you really believe you are a lizard, you are mentally ill, if you believe spliting your tongue will make you an actual lizard, you are mentally ill. If you think it’s cool to split your tongue because it looks like a lizards, that’s your business.
Why?
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