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Ghost
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posted November 23, 2021 06:03 PM |
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Edited by Ghost at 18:06, 23 Nov 2021.
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A very hard religion and LSD. You can't know which is one. No only Trump, you can see Brazil.
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JollyJoker
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posted November 23, 2021 06:21 PM |
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fred79 said:
"outright lies and propaganda", that you didn't make any attempt to verify yourself? and this made you angry???
Covid vaccine isn't "used". It's just a means of going by. What I see in my country is people transported over from the Netherlands because their hospitals can't handle things anymore. FACT. "Outright lies and propaganda" is the claim that the covid vaccination is used for any kind of control - in what strange world are you actually living??? You are controlled in much more subtle ways. Every time you pull some card through a reader you deliver information, for example. Or by "voting" one of the guys up for it (or not voting at all). By making yourself dependent on stuff like the internet and meaningless things you own and like. And so on and so forth. We all have long ago paid our tribute and there is no need whatsoever to obtain more control.
If you want to see what unsubtle control means, look to China.
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fred79
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posted November 23, 2021 06:31 PM |
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Edited by fred79 at 18:33, 23 Nov 2021.
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JollyJoker said:
Covid vaccine isn't "used". It's just a means of going by. What I see in my country is people transported over from the Netherlands because their hospitals can't handle things anymore. FACT.
did they tell you it's because of what the shots do to people? because they should, if they had integrity. ask yourself why it is, that hospitals are filling back up, after a "vaccine" was administered to millions of people.
they're doing their best to keep this snow quiet. they're silencing actual scientific data on the results of the shots, they're not broadcasting all the anti-shot restriction protesting worldwide on the msm, and the msm isn't broadcasting thousands of reports of adverse side effects OR what those shots actually do to your body.
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Salamandre
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posted November 23, 2021 06:32 PM |
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artu said:
But sure, just because there isnt institutional racism anymore in the U.S. and there can be some famous, successful black people (they also existed in the 1930's, guess there was no racism back then either), jump to the conclusion that it is not a social problem to any degree in any part of the country at all and all of this is just fiction created by leftist puppets.
The fictional part is the left saying racism is the paramount problem holding back minorities while dismissing every other parameters implying a responsibility on both sides. Racism will always be, it is a state of rejection inherent to mankind, it simply designates the red line where everyone's tolerance boundaries end - some have them low, other have them high. Education can make those boundaries fluid, but also individual experience will set a reality check now and then. Anyone can become racist depending on the environment he lives in and the events he goes through, its only a matter of time then. Change the environment and the events then racism will drop, not vice-versa.
Now, my problem with left medias ranting about racism 24/24, but without being able to give a single proposition about how to fight it (other than all white people acknowledging they are inherently racists and making adaeternam contrition about) is that such propaganda, when not backed by facts, is creating the true division and segregation. Therefore the racism increases, on both sides.
In order to claim racism is a serious problem, you have to tell why. It isn't enough to just throw that police is killing blacks, but never put in equation that blacks are also commuting crimes several times more than others. Or ignore that single motherhood in black communities has dropped within 60 years from 70% to 20%. Or claim that poverty will always create a criminal environment, which doesn't say how to avoid that other than again blaming whites or force them to give free stuff. Which is another discrimination and perceived as such.
And, before going on your rant about "alt- right", remember that both democratic and republican movements ruled America, equally. Yet in the mainstream it is told that is only one side responsible for, and that is, again, a lie.
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JollyJoker
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posted November 23, 2021 06:47 PM |
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fred79 said:
JollyJoker said:
Covid vaccine isn't "used". It's just a means of going by. What I see in my country is people transported over from the Netherlands because their hospitals can't handle things anymore. FACT.
did they tell you it's because of what the shots do to people? because they should, if they had integrity. ask yourself why it is, that hospitals are filling back up, after a "vaccine" was administered to millions of people.
they're doing their best to keep this snow quiet. they're silencing actual scientific data on the results of the shots, they're not broadcasting all the anti-shot restriction protesting worldwide on the msm, and the msm isn't broadcasting thousands of reports of adverse side effects OR what those shots actually do to your body.
Hospitals are filling with UNvaccinated. Vaccinated are getting covid, but that's to be expected since they don't work 100%. NO vaccine does, it's just that covid is most easily transferred, as opposed to stuff like Hep or so.
They don't silence reports, that there side effects with a few is known, which is, for example that Moderna isn't used on young people and so on.
Novavax has their conventional vaccine ready and when that is cleared there will be one with less side effects.
You must stop believing this idiotic crap some idiots serve online.
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Ghost
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posted November 23, 2021 07:13 PM |
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If doomsday COVID variant kills propaganda.  So to force vaccination, because COVID has time to change variant. I like Russian short film, how armies vaccinate people. But you saw some countries started/began use the force. Finland follows Israel and aped third vaccine is coming. I will take a marvel vaccine or pill.
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Kipshasz
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posted November 23, 2021 07:15 PM |
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Kayna said:
I remember this board to have more liberal types in here. I guess they must've had their minds crushed with facts and logic. I mean, what is winning an argument, than to impose your will upon someone else? Heroes is a dead franchise anyways, let's just rename this place to B3N $h@p1r0's debates board.
The anti-semitism in you is shocking.
Or you see Shapiro as a... what would be a jewish equivalent to "Uncle Tom"?
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Kayna
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posted November 23, 2021 07:25 PM |
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Ben Shapiro's just a lifeform trying to survive and make money to survive. He isn't really a Jew ; being a Jew is just a social construct. The circumcision is very real, however.
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fred79
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posted November 23, 2021 07:29 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
fred79 said:
JollyJoker said:
Covid vaccine isn't "used". It's just a means of going by. What I see in my country is people transported over from the Netherlands because their hospitals can't handle things anymore. FACT.
did they tell you it's because of what the shots do to people? because they should, if they had integrity. ask yourself why it is, that hospitals are filling back up, after a "vaccine" was administered to millions of people.
they're doing their best to keep this snow quiet. they're silencing actual scientific data on the results of the shots, they're not broadcasting all the anti-shot restriction protesting worldwide on the msm, and the msm isn't broadcasting thousands of reports of adverse side effects OR what those shots actually do to your body.
Hospitals are filling with UNvaccinated. Vaccinated are getting covid, but that's to be expected since they don't work 100%. NO vaccine does, it's just that covid is most easily transferred, as opposed to stuff like Hep or so.
They don't silence reports, that there side effects with a few is known, which is, for example that Moderna isn't used on young people and so on.
Novavax has their conventional vaccine ready and when that is cleared there will be one with less side effects.
You must stop believing this idiotic crap some idiots serve online.
you're right, i shouldn't be believing scientific studies. i should have faith in the msm.
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artu
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posted November 23, 2021 07:29 PM |
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Kipshasz said:
brace yourself for the addressing of the arguments you presented using the most assinine ad hominems ever.
Oh get real Kip, if someone starts talking about the blue pill and ignoramuses from his high horse and then writes something such as the below, of course they'll get mocked a little. You do only and only ad hominem, I just wanted him to realize how tuned out the things he claimed were, before I explained to him why I think so and if you actually started to study history like you say, you know my objection was right. How else was I supposed to react to:
Titanfall said:
Globalism is about universal totalitarianism. They will use the excuse of a virus and climate change to abolish civil rights and confiscate the wealth of every individual, all for the greater good. There will be a gargantuan push for population control as well. The genocidal Communist Chinese Party is the model the globalists wish to emulate, total control. They believe themselves wise and enlightened enough to play God. Turns out they're just a bunch of fallible fools with great wealth.
Now, for the rest:
Titanfall2020 said:
The World Economic Forum, and the Bilderberg group do in fact meet often. The richest and most influential people from across the globe. Heads of state (dictator or no), corporate media CEOs, oil CEOs; you name it. Nothing wrong with that, except if you listen to some interviews of the leader of the WEF you'll see what they meet for.
In his words, they meet to create a global consensus. In his words, we no longer have the luxury of individuals having their own ideas because climate change, and viruses, and technology are such an apocalyptic threat. He literally wrote a book called "Covid 19, the Great Reset", a few weeks before leaders from across the world started using the Build Back Better slogan. In it he describes governments worldwide using totalitarian measures to combat the virus, and using the powers they've accrued to then combat climate change and poverty, culminating in the merger of man and AI.
You might say that a global consensus would be useful. But at what cost, do we have a say at all, and is the consensus accurate and logical? In every nation that follows the WEFs lead, Covid 19 has been used to dominate their citizens, crushing freedoms, censoring speech, now the mass firings of those who do not comply. They used it to rig elections, to normalize totalitarian edicts, to create endless divisions, and to justify strict control on freedom of the press and the creation of propaganda.
Once again, these are not dark secrets. Naturally, the world leaders, rich power players etc. meet and discuss policy and there are indeed some problems that are global such as the climate change, industrial pollution reaching dangerous levels and surprise, the pandemic. The pan- prefix is there for a reason. As I said in my first reply, political actors with different agendas and interests meet, they negotiate, they trade, they settle, they have conflicts and so on. Now, while all of this happens, aren't there opportunists who are trying to turn crisis into convenience, sure, always has been.
The problem is how you connect the dots from there and create your own conspirical "big picture." Let me put it this way, even a TV show such as Game of Thrones is more multidimensional about politics than your "big picture." Yours is more like the animation Transformers and the globalists are the decepticons. Sorry, but as harsh as it is, the world doesnt work that way: A few rich people create a virus, spread it, all of the world's governments and scientists fall in line and they do whatever they want. This is how things work out in Hollywood, in B-movies.
The scientific consensus suggests that the virus most probably mutated in an animal, peer-reviewed studies have been linked even in this very forum. So no, they didnt create it. Just like they didnt change the definition of vaccine in all the dictionaries and similar disinformation you hold onto only because it fits your narrative. And dont you think there is a double standard in there, according to you "the globalists" control almost everything and everyone, politicians, the justice system, media, social media... Yet, one verdict from a court that you approve, suddenly we go back to "the law has spoken, the jury examined the evidence and you didnt," which is true and I have no problem with the verdict. Well, the scientists examined the virus, not from just one governments' institutions, from all over the world and they have reached a verdict that precautions are necessary. Keep in mind that I am not suggesting I approve every precaution or decision by every government about this. Our own conservative government uses it as an excuse to close bars and live music etc. But you don't jump to the Decepticons from there, they are not part of some globalist masterplan to "confiscate the wealth of every individual" or similar non-sense.
Btw, unlike Marx, the wealthy and the rich are hard-driven capitalists and for them to stay that way, people need to keep buying things, not lose all private property. You can have objections regarding neo-liberal economics, how corporate capital is destroying the middle-class, how small businesses are unable to compete etc, but once again, ironically, that would put you in the leftist side of the political spectrum. (The actual left, not rioting kids.)
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Kipshasz
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posted November 23, 2021 07:30 PM |
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Edited by Kipshasz at 19:34, 23 Nov 2021.
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+20 more HCMs to Corribus from the progressive cult.
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artu
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posted November 23, 2021 07:36 PM |
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@Sal
Yes, I know your stance. About that, we can have a sane discussion and we already did. Such critic of left media becomes something else when it's part of "they control everthing and everyone" conspiracies, which was what I was referring to regarding the context.
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Salamandre
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posted November 23, 2021 07:58 PM |
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The reality where 99% of mainstream medias push same narrative while trying to shut up any challenge from the remaining 1% can be naturally perceived as an attempt to control. It is not because the resulted frustration is often awkwardly expressed that it doesn't exist.
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artu
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posted November 23, 2021 08:18 PM |
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They dont push the same narrative, just because none of them support urban myths doesnt mean they all support the same policies.
Besides, mainstream media isnt even as influential as it used to be anyway. Most people prefer their own echo chamber outlets in social media and small blogs etc. Mainsteam media is still better than that in terms of editorial checks and balances and accountability.
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fred79
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posted November 23, 2021 08:41 PM |
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Kipshasz said:
+20 more HCMs to Corribus from the progressive cult.
i'm laughing over here. 
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Salamandre
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posted November 23, 2021 08:48 PM |
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artu said:
They dont push the same narrative,
Sorry, they push exactly the same narrative on the main subjects heavily dividing people (in no particular order): climate, pandemic, racism, immigration and multiculturalism. Show me the differences.
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artu
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posted November 23, 2021 09:22 PM |
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I mean, of course they dont deny that climate change or the pandemic is real (because they are) but they differ about the policies on what should be done, say, whether masks work or not, has vaccines been tested enough, are lockdowns a threat to economy etc. etc.
Multiculturalism? Mainstream media is not facist but there are nationalist and conservative media everywhere who opposes massive immigration, who supports assimilation rather than micro-cultural entities and so on... Maybe French media is a little more leftist than world average, I hear they are, just like Turkish mainstream is much more nationalist than world average. But English output we can both follow have all kinds of variation.
They are not dismissing scientific consensus on matters regarding positive sciences like the pandemic or climate change but that's good. They shouldn't.
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Titanfall2020
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posted November 23, 2021 09:30 PM |
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@Artu You're quick to denounce my few paragraph response as juvenile, but you're assuming so much about what I believe. Yes, in fact 95% of media outlets push the same narrative as Salamandre layed out. They are quite open about some of their plans, and quiet about others.
You're right about them being hardcore capitalists and not communists, but the thing is the goals of both are the same. In communist nations, the leadership and party loyalists are the only ones with money, the capitalists of the WEF want the same thing. They are enlightened and progressive and just better than us you see. They have the will to do the hard things we wouldn't do.
You're telling me the virus came from an animal, even though the first cases were found in Wuhan near the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where they have written copious amounts about gain-of-function research on this specific coronavirus. Not to mention looking at who benefitted most from this virus, and who funded the research.
Anyway where this is headed is "And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark— the name of the beast or the number of its name."
Be careful about what mandates from corrupt governments you'd sell your soul for.
Edit: I usually call them either fascists or simple totalitarians. Fascism: "The lucrative merger between corporation and state." and "Everything in the state. Nothing outside the state. Nothing against the state." Corporations own and operate most federal governments now by means of bribery and lawmaking. Watch as they continue to declare racism, a 99.85% survival cold virus, cLiMaTe cHaNgE, and misinformation pandemics. The plan is to take totalitarian control and create wartime economies to combat them. They don't need buyers if they just dramatically increase taxes and give themselves all the tax money via government handouts.
And it's not as though "globalists" are all aware of this grand design, this is simply the direction the richest and most powerful people are heading, and so many go right along with it.
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artu
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posted November 23, 2021 09:45 PM |
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No, it's not the same. In communism, the end goal is to terminate the existence of money for good. That is an unrealistic goal of course but that is beside the point. In capitalism, people should be wealthy enough to keep buying things, you dont want them too poor or the circulation of the market stops. Capitalism needs economic growth, like a shark, it needs to keep moving to live, it wants to expand. And for that it needs customers, ever-growing number of customers. That is also problematic and we'll eventually have to come up with a modified veirsion of it but that is a different topic.
As said, peer reviewed sources about the origin of the virus have already been linked in the past and I neither have the time or the will to go over that all again when all you're going to do is stick to a conspiracy.
And quoting prophecies from the Bible isnt helping your credibility.
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Titanfall2020
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posted November 23, 2021 09:52 PM |
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artu said:
No, it's not the same. In communism, the end goal is to terminate the existence of money for good. That is an unrealistic goal of course but that is beside the point. In capitalism, people should be wealthy enough to keep buying things, you dont want them too poor or the circulation of the market stops. Capitalism needs economic growth, like a shark, it needs to keep moving to live, it wants to expand. And for that it needs customers, ever-growing number of customers. That is also problematic and we'll eventually have to come up with a modified veirsion of it but that is a different topic.
As said, peer reviewed sources about the origin of the virus have already been linked in the past and I neither have the time or the will to go over that all again when all you're going to do is stick to a conspiracy.
And quoting prophecies from the Bible isnt helping your credibility.
Look at my edit, the economic growth they need doesn't need to be from a free market.
Science has been corrupted in every totalitarian nation, it's no different here.
I'm not posting for subjective credibility, I'm posting for accuracy.
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