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purerogue3
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posted October 17, 2024 09:10 PM |
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Pol said:
Germany was the one doing holocaust. And USA was the one who carry on with League of Nations resolution. And absolutely, both events happened in different times.
The Jews and Arabs did coexisted somewhat but also Christians and Jezids and some other various groups (not Zoroastrianians, these were pushed from area long ago.). Whereas is important to note, that neither Arabas and neither Jews were one group.
These were multiple groups, with different religion, values and beliefs. Which is what was keeping the peace.
When this period ended, Muslims massacred Christians and with them done, they focused on jews.
This cauldron of nations, was not a peacuful area, eden on earth or whatever to idealize.
Russia stopped the Nazis. not the US. But wrong thread.
That's the danger of being a minority.
The rest falls in the category of grieviances between the sides, not my fight.
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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted October 17, 2024 10:10 PM |
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purerogue3 said:
Israel is the result of a bad parent who is trying to make up for a previous error (the Holocaust), when no threat existed (from majority Palestianians), ruining the natural balance and creating a major problem.
Well, "20 seconds an google" show that the region has a history of Jews not being safe. Just like they weren't safe in either Western or Eastern Europe. So the problem was already there.
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purerogue3
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posted October 17, 2024 10:29 PM |
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But Joe Biden says "we are the UNITED STATES..(goddamnit) there is NOTHING WE CAN'T DO"
Holy crap I cringe so hard every time he does that. THankfully, we will have new things to worry about soon.
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Blizzard
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Where the hell is my driveway?
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posted October 18, 2024 03:17 AM |
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Edited by Blizzard at 03:51, 18 Oct 2024.
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Jews were already unsafe in Palestine.
And that is now drastically more the case. If what Hamas says with words is accurate with what they would do, there would be Holocaust part 2 if Israel ever dissolved itself. It can never go back to an Arab territory unless the Jewish part of the country evacuated. And I don't mean only the Jewish religion, but just anybody Jewish by association.
Jews would have been safer turning New York or Florida into their "Israel" than actually being given historical Israel back, but that is all water under the bridge. They are now stuck with it and few modern Israelis know of any other place to be.
Back when Britain/the UN re-assigned the territory and made it a new state, sociology and psychology were still young sciences and people didn't sufficiently appreciate that the pre-existing residents weren't going to let it go so easily. The Arabs rejected the resolution from the start but that was ignored. People can complain about the unfairness of it all but if you want to follow causality then it goes back almost infinitely farther than 1948. Don't just arbitrarily stop at that date. It is a human problem, period, which is why the entire world should participate in getting the region back on its feet and healthy. The blame game is not a constructive way to think. What matters is that stuff happened and Israel exists now, and so now the question is what to do about it. The dissolution of Israel is a death sentence for Jews, so something else has to be done.
Saudi Arabia has the right idea with pre 1967 borders and 2 states in my opinion, but the Israeli government would never, ever agree to that because it is now settled and also Hamas doesn't want pre 1967 borders either. Hamas wants a complete takeover, a lot like the IRA did in Northern Ireland except Hamas is more radical and is in some ways a death cult. Hamas soldiers are raised from childhood to celebrate their own death as a triumph.
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purerogue3
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posted October 18, 2024 04:29 AM |
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Blizzard said:
Saudi Arabia has the right idea with pre 1967 borders and 2 states in my opinion, but the Israeli government would never, ever agree to that because it is now settled and also Hamas doesn't want pre 1967 borders either. Hamas wants a complete takeover, a lot like the IRA did in Northern Ireland except Hamas is more radical and is in some ways a death cult. Hamas soldiers are raised from childhood to celebrate their own death as a triumph.
Yes, ain't no way to go back.
It's very messy for sure, neither side wll get what they want.. until they don't want to fight anymore. And then the solution is always "temporary" nor does it matter in the end because we are years away from death anyways. I guess that happens when you cross the mid-way point in life.
Saudi Arabia is like the chill guy. Well-fed and not caring about idealogy or wanting anything hard.
They will have their own problems when the oil doesn't cover their expenses..
Having TNT blowing off your pelvis kinda does that.
Really the only problem I have is with any country that has a draft as I literally will trek across siberia if anyone says I have no do anything to 'defend my country'.
Just pay mercernaries, like Putin. Don't be broke.
War should be a choice in modern times. Some people actually like it, enjoy killing. Don't involve the rest of us.
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purerogue3
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posted October 18, 2024 05:29 PM |
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Sinwar real stubborn going out with a rifle against a tank like Stalingrad or something.
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