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Heroes Community > Heroes 3.5 - WoG and Beyond > Thread: Worst skill in HotA 1.7.0?
Thread: Worst skill in HotA 1.7.0? This thread is 2 pages long: 1 2 · «PREV
Unhinged_Pro
Unhinged_Pro


Adventuring Hero
posted February 12, 2024 07:49 PM

Ghost said:
@FdgK




Unhinged_Pro said:
Balistics is the most of situational skill.


Have you tested Ballistics? When you must to know Artillery, Meteor Shower, etc Ok maybe only your one attempt, your strategy is valuable to destroy castle door?! So it pays!

Remember don't bring your infantries without flying and ranged units..

Remember town is meaningless*, except chechmate..

Remember maybe I'm using Shackles of War in the town..

*Many towns, you need to checkmate by TP.. Depends on strategy.. Many towns are OP.. But Ballistics


If you even dared to play HoMM3 mid-high ladder competitively you would realise that having side hero with giga power and spells from arties can do armageddon if enemy doesn't have artilery which screws the enemy by a margin?

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Unhinged_Pro
Unhinged_Pro


Adventuring Hero
posted February 12, 2024 07:50 PM

Hourglass said:
Unhinged_Pro said:

I have a photo learning blind from an AI battle so I think eagle eye is highly underrated.

There are multiple reasons why the community has spit on Eagle Eye for over 20 years, but the most definete reason for me personally has been the fact that since Eagle Eye can only give you spells after battle, it's very common practice you will end up getting the spell anyway sooner or later when you think about it: spells don't generate from thin air, so with only with couple of minor expections, all the spells cast by the enemy can be found on the map. Most typical places are of course mage guilds, but the enemy may very well possess an artifact/scroll that makes him cast spells. So, just receiving the loot from the dead enemy hero and/or conquering his town will usually give the spells without any hassle with Eagle Eye.

As this ends up cutting any reasons for picking Eagle Eye, it's (still) the worst secondary skill in Hota. Techinicially it may even be slightly worse due the Spell research, but since even in SoD the EE is extremly unplayble, it has no practical meaning for game balance or such.
Learning is also very, very poor ability, but it might at least somewhat try to compensate itself, which EE is not doing at all. Neverthless, stay away from both skills, as including them to your build actually makes your hero worse.

First aid got a major buff in 1.7, and now certain units can be used like they were Wrights, making some very safe and deathless early fights. I personally rated First Aid as the third most useless secondary skill, but now it certainly challenges the next skills in line, Sorcery and Ballistics. The problem with First aid is still the availability, and now we even have new town type, yet another one that does not hold the tent within their blacksmiths.

Ye I think that it's either learning or eagle eye at the end of the day, very hard to nominate a winner.

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Ghost
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posted February 12, 2024 08:14 PM

Unhinged_Pro said:
If you even dared to play HoMM3 mid-high ladder competitively you would realise that having side hero with giga power and spells from arties can do armageddon if enemy doesn't have artilery which screws the enemy by a margin?


What? When I said Meteor Shower, etc means also other spells.. Ok I'm using magic immune artifacts too.. But naive rules.. Then I've not knowledge and knowing about it.. Only I hope Anti-Magic is fine answer, or if I've a Power enough, so I cast a Armageddon too.. You know Interference.. Are you happy? HotA is HotA..
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Unhinged_Pro
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posted February 12, 2024 10:11 PM

Ghost said:
Unhinged_Pro said:
If you even dared to play HoMM3 mid-high ladder competitively you would realise that having side hero with giga power and spells from arties can do armageddon if enemy doesn't have artilery which screws the enemy by a margin?


What? When I said Meteor Shower, etc means also other spells.. Ok I'm using magic immune artifacts too.. But naive rules.. Then I've not knowledge and knowing about it.. Only I hope Anti-Magic is fine answer, or if I've a Power enough, so I cast a Armageddon too.. You know Interference.. Are you happy? HotA is HotA..

Was talking about balistics skills being good.

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Ghost
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posted February 12, 2024 11:13 PM

Unhinged_Pro said:
Was talking about balistics skills being good.


Ok we understood wrong.. And Ballistics is a good against comp..
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