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Heroes Community > New Heroes - Olden Era > Thread: Faction Discussion - Hive/Inferno
Thread: Faction Discussion - Hive/Inferno This thread is 4 pages long: 1 2 3 4 · «PREV / NEXT»
Galaad
Galaad

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posted January 31, 2025 03:47 PM

Syth1984 said:
On the other hand Efreets are a bit hard to pull off in an insectoid town. But I hope they did it.


If not, they could still be a solid candidate for top tier neutral.
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The_Green_Drag
The_Green_Drag


Supreme Hero
posted January 31, 2025 04:50 PM

I like the idea of the insect demons, but how well it’s executed will come down to unit designs and if they stand out from each other. I’m skeptical right now, since every Hive creature that we’ve seen in videos and screenshots all show the same color scheme. We’ve had one offical reveal and already it looks difficult to tell them apart. The other factions don’t seem to have this problem, so hopefully it’s not an issue by the time EA comes around.

Also, the chanter upgrade is in a nutshell everything I don’t like about Ubi-heroes and their over the top upgrade designs. the base unit looks clean, I can clearly see the stinger and it’s bee-like pattern, and then they go and add tons of spikes, extra limbs, cover the limbs in armor because everything needs armor, and now it’s just a blob of tiny details that go mostly unnoticed.

On a positive note, the fire worm and scythe wielding bug from the video look really cool.

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MurlocAggroB
MurlocAggroB


Known Hero
posted January 31, 2025 05:36 PM

Charrclaw said:
As someone who holds Inferno as favourite faction, I really like this take on it. It is unique in the franchise. However I'm worried that units might end up looking similar to one another more than they ever had.


I think from what I've seen they've done a pretty good job differentiating the creatures across tiers. However, I am worried that the alt upgrades look too similar to each other. There's only so much you can do with red, orange, yellow, and black as your colour scheme.

Charrclaw said:
I'm still bugged about inferno town screen. Too many bubbling bloated slimes on perfectly fine architecture.


I think the idea is their town screen is a dark elf city that's been corrupted and overgrown with eggs and lava.

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TrueMefista
TrueMefista


Adventuring Hero
posted February 01, 2025 08:20 PM

The_Green_Drag said:
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Also, the chanter upgrade is in a nutshell everything I don’t like about Ubi-heroes and their over the top upgrade designs. the base unit looks clean, I can clearly see the stinger and it’s bee-like pattern, and then they go and add tons of spikes, extra limbs, cover the limbs in armor because everything needs armor, and now it’s just a blob of tiny details that go mostly unnoticed.
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I agree.

Also, if these are insectile monstrosities, but not Kreegan, what kind of canon basis they even have?

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MurlocAggroB
MurlocAggroB


Known Hero
posted February 02, 2025 04:31 PM

TrueMefista said:
Also, if these are insectile monstrosities, but not Kreegan, what kind of canon basis they even have?


They're a corrupted offshoot of the wasp warriors from Might and Magic VIII.

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TrueMefista
TrueMefista


Adventuring Hero
posted February 02, 2025 05:17 PM

What, all 7 levels?

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MurlocAggroB
MurlocAggroB


Known Hero
posted February 03, 2025 02:58 AM

If you're asking if all 7 tiers are directly based on wasp warriors, obviously not. Even the creature that literally is a corrupted version of the MM8 monster is a lot less humanoid. However, the important part is that there is a precedent for a faction of giant intelligent bugs living in Jadame. They might have technically pulled six other types of giant bugs out of thin air, but it's a logical starting point if you wanted to make a faction based on the Wasp Nest dungeon in MM8.

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TrueMefista
TrueMefista


Adventuring Hero
posted February 03, 2025 02:51 PM

I wonder if any creature will be inspired by DnD Howler Wasp.

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Elvin
Elvin


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Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted February 05, 2025 06:26 PM

MurlocAggroB said:
TrueMefista said:
Also, if these are insectile monstrosities, but not Kreegan, what kind of canon basis they even have?


They're a corrupted offshoot of the wasp warriors from Might and Magic VIII.



NWC did it first
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MurlocAggroB
MurlocAggroB


Known Hero
posted February 06, 2025 10:12 PM

Hive's tier 4 was revealed; Mantis

They did a much better job at making the three versions look visually distinct than they did with the Hornets.

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Charrclaw
Charrclaw


Known Hero
posted February 07, 2025 12:50 PM

Oof that royal mantis looks just perfect

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Rimgrabber
Rimgrabber


Promising
Famous Hero
Voice in Gelu's Head
posted February 08, 2025 12:51 AM

This faction probably won't be my favorite, but I do appreciate the attempt to branch out. I could see it growing on me. I'll miss the Cerberus and devils though
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MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted February 08, 2025 08:43 AM

Elvin said:
MurlocAggroB said:
TrueMefista said:
Also, if these are insectile monstrosities, but not Kreegan, what kind of canon basis they even have?


They're a corrupted offshoot of the wasp warriors from Might and Magic VIII.



NWC did it first
I think you mean Nintendo.

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TrueMefista
TrueMefista


Adventuring Hero
posted February 09, 2025 07:21 PM

That mantis is surely not praying.

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Ghost
Ghost


Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
posted February 09, 2025 07:47 PM

Giant mantis should be strong..

Ok maltreatment video Mantis vs Spider

But it fits the Hive..
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Ghost
Ghost


Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
posted February 09, 2025 07:52 PM

Another giant hornet can eat your ear..

Giant hornet

But the Biblical style, so it also fits the Hive..
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MurlocAggroB
MurlocAggroB


Known Hero
posted February 10, 2025 05:54 PM

Beeg beeg worm

This is probably my favourite creature they've shown off so far, period. The design is cool, the abilities sound interesting* (asterisk because we don't know any details), it's got a choice between ranged and melee upgrades, and Pyroboros is so wonderfully stupid.

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TrueMefista
TrueMefista


Adventuring Hero
posted February 10, 2025 07:29 PM

Waurmos sounds so silly. Wow worms.

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The_Green_Drag
The_Green_Drag


Supreme Hero
posted February 10, 2025 07:34 PM

Yeah, I hope the name isn’t final. But, this is also my favorite reveal thus far. Visually distinct upgrades and a cool design overall. Aoe ranged attack is nice, but might steal some thunder from the lich in that regard.

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TrueMefista
TrueMefista


Adventuring Hero
posted February 10, 2025 07:43 PM
Edited by TrueMefista at 19:45, 10 Feb 2025.

I liked how second upgrade looks, name is nice as well, and not invoking shawarma (those shawarma kiosks here that use inverted Mcdonalds logo for letter sh, specifically)

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