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Aculias
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posted July 18, 2002 02:02 AM |
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Confusing or mayhaps not
I am a fair person & hate no one no matter what but I like to be fair & I think that there is somethang going on with thy Mods & some people here.
Someone getting a minus Q point for one swear word 7 that is fine but then making a thread with swear words written all clear as day 7 then he gets away with it & even having people using that word.
Personally i do it too & dont care but i think it's unfair & it seems a favortism for some people here or you are just plain chicken to dish out conciquences for not folloween thy rules.
DOnt get me wrong i dont mind but basically when i see someone getting a -1 for nothing at all but a swear word but others can write a thread with a swear word & everyone starts swearing & htey get away with it i find that disapointing.
& getting +1 for unquality post like Andi donkey tail blah blah.
I think it may be a direct attack for Andi to crack or favortism & all in joke.
Keep it fair all I ask & quit imaturely pissing people off because they pissed you guys off.
You mods are adults & supposed to be fair no matter what in this sort of situations yes no?
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bort
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posted July 18, 2002 02:31 AM |
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Well the thing is... that's unfortunately how human nature works. You're judged as much by past actions as present ones and I'm not sure if that's a bad thing. If you have a dog who every time you walk in the door jumps up and bites your crotch, you're going to start smacking it every time it jumps towards you, even if all it wanted to do was lick your face (or crotch). Similarly, if George W. Bush were to give an intelligent, clearly enunciated, visionary speech without looking like a deer in the headlights (not bloody likely, I admit, but bear with me...) all I'd hear is "strategery" because of his (deserved or not, I think deserved) reputation as a gibbering moron. HOWEVER, if over an extended period of time, said dog refrains from crotch biting and maybe brings you your slippers once in awhile, you'll probably take the muzzle off and give him the benefit of the doubt from time to time and forgive him the occasional groin gnashing, if GWB were to make a few good decisions in a row and implement them correctly, I'd start forgetting about, for instance, that little case of insider trading several years back AND, if those who you have not named limited themselves to, say 5 or 6 flames each a day, then they'd start getting respect from the mods, too. That said, I don't really mind their posts, most of them are pretty stupid, but some are actually quite funny. Of course the thing is, the best way to get rid of them would probably be to give them enough quality points to give them an extra red star or two so that they'd lose rebel cred and become the target of flames...
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Aculias
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posted July 18, 2002 02:38 AM |
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I understand what you are saying defanately 7 I can agree alot but thy point I am making is.
If one person gets a -1 point for not following thy rules then others should lose -1 point for not folloween thy rules yes no?
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bort
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posted July 18, 2002 02:46 AM |
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Well, yes and no. The way it appears to work is that you have a sort of "misbehaving" threshold. The first few times you break the rules or whatever, you'll probably get off scot free and if you only do it occasionally, same deal. Like maybe you're allowed 1 or 2 foibles per week. Now although it was not my intention to, I probably crossed the line back in my "How did you become a dork?" thread with my open ended insult to the heroes community and if you look through my posts, you'll see some *'s sprinkled here and there. I get away with it mostly because I don't do it frequently or excessively. I don't have the patience to search through and find out, but I'm sure if you go back and find the first few times any of the negative qp people flamed or direct insulted or whatnot, they were let off with at MOST a warning. From what I can tell, the moderators actually prefer to look the other way and will only do something when somebody has done enough to start appearing on the radar screen and once they do appear on the radar, they'll be kept on a short leash until they keep a low enough profile to not be noticed any more. Fair? Probably not, but I think it is reasonable for things to work that way.
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Aculias
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posted July 18, 2002 02:52 AM |
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It's funny I speak my mind in all dif ways & i still have 2 points.
Thanks Val 
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RedSoxFan3
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posted July 18, 2002 05:45 AM |
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I think that Aculias deserves some QP's for the sake of making 1000+ of posts and still being responsible the whole way. I think he could be trusted with the privilage of having no flood-protection.
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Sir_Stiven
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posted July 18, 2002 09:01 AM |
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Ya Aculias is a good poster (when he doesnt get any paranoid ideas about me that is  ) I also concider it strange that he doesnt have more QP:s, he usually are responsible here and the few times his not its me who gets the stick so that should just be another reason for giving him a +QP right? 
And even if i fully understand your point Bort and dont agree all the way with ya. Yes, if a person repeats an harsh action when he has gotten a warning he should get a penalty. But sometimes this has gotten alittle to far in my opinion, sometimes it seems fair to give a -QP just because its Andi or Motors that made that post. I could give you posts with personal slamming which has been looked other way at, some people hide it very well and for example make a RPG stuff thread about it. And then there people can make fun of that person how much they want because its just an RPG thread right? Well i dont care much about it, there has been some fun tossing there but to keep something like that alive and then give penalties when the person who the thread is about doesnt use *** when he swears seems really really harsh to me.
Thats enough for now, i might speak up my views about the +QP things later.
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Sir_Elric
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posted July 18, 2002 09:13 AM |
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I think that Aculias deserves some QP's for the sake of making 1000+ of posts and still being responsible the whole way. I think he could be trusted with the privilage of having no flood-protection.
*note*
It's quality not quantity.
You could make 1000+ posts in the word games and this is QP worthy?
Umm..... what's with the "7" Aculias??
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Aculias
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posted July 18, 2002 09:22 AM |
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Sorry Elric my & 7 sometimes dont type it i think that button is hurting lol, so if you guys see a 7 it really means & lol.
& thank you for your honest compliment Elric you are always so nice to me
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posted July 18, 2002 06:42 PM |
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I think that Aculias deserves some QP's for the sake of making 1000+ of posts and still being responsible the whole way. I think he could be trusted with the privilage of having no flood-protection.
*note*
It's quality not quantity.
You could make 1000+ posts in the word games and this is QP worthy?
Umm..... what's with the "7" Aculias??
My point is that Aculias should have 0 sec flood-protect, because he has proved that he can handle it even though he still has 2 stars. This is the one flaw I find with the stars system. Aculias deserves 0 sec flood protection. Just because he doesn't have a ton of QP's doesn't mean that he isn't responsible. Isn't that the point of the bonus that we give to 4 star members?
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Aculias
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posted July 19, 2002 05:16 AM |
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I wish lol but no you have to make a quality thread & I dont make quality threads but I make honest replies orfun & funny replies.
Or sometimes when I am in deep mode I write some romantic & special threads for all to read but i never expect to get a quality point because I think diferently then most people I love to think in thy world .
So me deserving a point would be like Andi being nice to Kraven
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RedSoxFan3
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posted July 19, 2002 05:31 AM |
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I think that mods look too much at the presentation of a valid point rather then the pureness of the point itself. This is one of the reasons why people like Djive, Bort, The_Hydra, and Thunder received so many more QP's than someone like you. They give flashy presentations of their statements. They write in long extensive paragraphs with correct grammar/spelling which make their points look much better than it would if you wrote it.
Mods should look more at the general idea of the post rather than all the bells and whistles that make it look better. If you look at some of Malkia's QP's, you'll be confused as to how that could get a QP at first glance. But the statements overall really made you go Hmmmm. By giving bonus this way the members with good ideas will have lots of QP's not the members who are good writers that write a page every time they post.
I'm not saying that they don't deserve the QP's, but other people should get bonuses too who make good points, but don't have all the bells and whistles attached.
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bort
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posted July 19, 2002 05:03 PM |
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Well I don't know if I consider grammer and spelling to be bells and whistles, but to a certain extent you are right. Personally, I really like Aculius' syntax - it sort of reminds me of a cross between Joyce and Hemingway (and I like both authors Aculius, so that's meant as a complement).
To be honest, if you read the FAQ, the community as a whole is under qp'ed - if it is indeed supposed to be the top 2%, than there should have been nearly 1600 qp's awarded by now, which I don't think we've come even close to. Personally I think 2% would be a bit excessive, but that's beside the point. Aculius isn't the only one who doesn't get as much credit as he should. Woock, for instance, as well as pleuris and arachnid are underappreciated, just to name a few. The reputation thing actually works both ways, and sometimes prevents people like Cat and Oldtimer from getting qps (go look at Cat's "What is History?" thread if you don't believe me. If anybody else had made that post they would have been guarenteed a qp, but that sort of post is sort of expected from Cat now so she doesn't get credit for it. As for Oldtimer, well, try to find an OT post that doesn't elicit at least a little chuckle. He tends to spread the joke over a few small posts rather than in a single one, though, so I think mods have difficulty identifying a single one that deserves the qp). Stiven probably should get a few qp's for being a pretty good sport about things, all things considered and Andi probably should get one for NOT flaming the "Andi is cute and fluffy" thread into oblivion (although I, personally, am terrified at the thought of either of those losing floodprotect). Perhaps the most underappreciated member is Avallach who has something like 40 posts, but nearly all of them are well thought and and qp worthy. Anyway, just my ramblings. I actually don't really know what my point here is.
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posted July 19, 2002 10:19 PM |
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Once again I agree with Bort. I am beginning to wonder if Bort is a second account I have somehow created in my sleep and post in when I am unaware of it.
I think a great deal of posting is indeed undervalued, although just as many bad posts go unpunished, possibly. Many QPs given to Bort have actaully been very odd.. for the least funny post he has made in a thread in some cases.. I can't remember where it was, but in a recent thread I was sure he should have been given the QP for his first post, not his second.
QPs are a lot like school. When you are in school, if you consistantly get A* essays, nobody really takes any notice of you untill you get a B lol. Then they question it.
However, this is not a discussion I wish to get involved in again lol
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Sir_Elric
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posted July 20, 2002 04:10 AM |
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My point is that Aculias should have 0 sec flood-protect, because he has proved that he can handle it even though he still has 2 stars. This is the one flaw I find with the stars system. Aculias deserves 0 sec flood protection. Just because he doesn't have a ton of QP's doesn't mean that he isn't responsible. Isn't that the point of the bonus that we give to 4 star members?
Redsox, you obviously have no idea of scripting and how hard it would be to start giving one person this and one person that.
It would be very time consuming and tedious taboot!
Personally I would like to see this implemented:
1 new thread per day for each red star attained.
This would stop Noobs posting 13 threads a day and for the rest of us we don't post more than 1, or any, per day anyway.
This would also remove a lot of the "nothing threads" and leave more interesting threads in their wake not to mention making the MODS job a hell of a lot easier.
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Aculias
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posted July 20, 2002 06:03 AM |
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It's ok like I said I think myself dif then wveryone here because I seem more misunderstood way I think of thy world & people & sometimes I get overexited or angry but mostly i am an equal person .
I just write whats on my mind for my lovely people here & I dont expect anythang .
Anyways if you do Elric probally start flaming me lol.
I do hate those flood report thangys though lol.
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Sir_Stiven
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posted July 20, 2002 01:19 PM |
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1 new thread per day for each red star attained.
This would stop Noobs posting 13 threads a day and for the rest of us we don't post more than 1, or any, per day anyway.
This would also remove a lot of the "nothing threads" and leave more interesting threads in their wake not to mention making the MODS job a hell of a lot easier.
Make that 1 thread/week and i agree 100%.
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Celfious
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posted July 21, 2002 12:13 AM |
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SIR
mister mister.. Mister sir how kind to say the threaders can thread once a week. thats weak mr..Id like to see somemore threads from you. I know we're unworthy. I know your quality is to much for us to handle.
Mr. I tink your oka' just dont be mean to newbies! Newbies is what makes places newer. More thread's should slow down howevers.. We need more post's first. Right Mr stiven?
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CraigHack
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posted July 21, 2002 06:16 AM |
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Flood protection!
I find that the people that yell the loudest for no flood protection are those that you really dont want to see posting more anyway.
I vote as always for 1 hour flood protection.
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posted July 22, 2002 02:30 AM |
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I find that the people that yell the loudest for no flood protection are those that you really dont want to see posting more anyway.
I vote as always for 1 hour flood protection.
I'm not asking for me to have 0 flood-protection. I'm stating that someone else deserves it.
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Redsox, you obviously have no idea of scripting and how hard it would be to start giving one person this and one person that.
It would be very time consuming and tedious taboot!
I'm saying that Aculias should have no flood-protection. It wouldn't be hard to give Aculias 4 stars.
He can just make a bunch of threads called:
Aculias is getting 0 second flood protection #1
Aculias is getting 0 second flood protection #2
Aculias is getting 0 second flood protection #3
Aculias is getting 0 second flood protection #4
etc...
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