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posted December 07, 2002 05:15 PM |
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Do you really think Europe would attack the U.S.? I think they know better. Japan tried and got beat in the end.
I bet we have a reason but the Government(CIA) can't tell us.
Um...if europe dare not, u think iraq would be that stupid to attack? They r not terrorist but a country. US can easily wipe them out. So they'd prefer to stay cool. Also...cuz japan tried, so that means they were opposing forces. And to mention China, it's always been opposing US (recently mainly cuz of taiwan stuff). Why don't US attack Chin instead? (as a matter fact, US opposed a great threat to Chin by controlling Afrikhanastan and Taiwan, the two doors of China.) But they are still strong, and need some hardwork. So picking on iraq is best for now, to make other countries fear the great America again.
That official said: 'Blair said they have it (massive destructive weapons). UN said they have it. Iraq said they don't. Who do u want to believe'. Then he said 'We still havn't got proof.......', but still insist to attack iraq. And before, they said to investigate in iraq to see if they got any weapons. That's violating the rules. How'bout some other country claims 'US might have some weapons that are dangerous' and go set their army in america and 'investigate'? U should know what will happen once US army's in a country.
And US army lacks discipline (someof them at least). In South Korea, they shoot down civilians for fun, and no punishment. Now south korean citizens hate american soldiers greatly. And US people in china can sexually assault chinese women, and receive no punishment (but receive praise). (that guy's called Mark, if u r interested). And US bombed a wedding in Afrikhan, then found all deads are innocent. So no one want such a army to dwell in or near their country. So iraq opposed.
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posted December 07, 2002 08:58 PM |
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just answering the original question...
By no means should we attack Iraq, at least not under this little provocation. Most/all of the countries in the world are against such a drastic move. If we did attack, it may turn into a World War III!
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posted December 07, 2002 11:33 PM |
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Actually what is the reason for attacking? Is it because iraq MAY have massive destructive weapons? That's a pretty lame reason! If that's the case, japan, china, or other countries should be squashed first for they have much more dangerous weaponeries!
The true meaning is the Oil in that area. U should know that starting this century, America's position in the world has been shaken and fading. Not because of terrorist, but of economical threat of Asia and Europ. To maintain it's boss position on Earth, US have to find a way to ensure its power fast. So, iraq come to hand.
The various other steps are also taken: control of taiwan, attacking of afkhanastan, control of korea are used to surrund China and threat Japan. Just look at map, it's not hard to figure that out. Then, near east's oil line is really vital to the whole world, so whoever controls it can gain control of almost the resource line of whole Earth. That's why US is so desparate to attack, as even dumbest country will figure that out sooner or later. And why no one supported US, not even Canada as I mentioned before.
"we don't have exact proof about iraq has massive destructive weapon......but we believe they have." The final justified reason for the attack. Do u think it's a good reason?
by the way, iraq has already been surrounded by American troops.
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posted December 09, 2002 12:26 AM |
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And US army lacks discipline (someof them at least). In South Korea, they shoot down civilians for fun, and no punishment. Now south korean citizens hate american soldiers greatly. And US people in china can sexually assault chinese women, and receive no punishment (but receive praise). (that guy's called Mark, if u r interested). And US bombed a wedding in Afrikhan, then found all deads are innocent. So no one want such a army to dwell in or near their country. So iraq opposed.
Afrikhan? I think you mean Afghanistan.
Recieve praise? I don't think so, and this is maybe 5 people in the world who does this and everyone in the U.S. military is suddenly labeled as rapists and murderers? That is rediculus!
How do you know that the "wedding" Afghanistan was really a wedding?
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posted December 09, 2002 01:04 AM |
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From what I remember of the events it was reported at first as a wedding where the afghans fired their assault rifles into the air (a kinda semi-traditional thing at their weddings) a fair distance from a circling US plane. The US plane felt they were under fire and called in a strike against the village killing and wounding many revellers.
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posted December 09, 2002 02:40 AM |
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well.... US armies are not well come in other countries. In japan they raped girls. In korea they shoot people for fun or because of conflicts. (believe me, for that one, it's not only once or twice. It's been more serious recently so koreans protested). About the bombing, they do it on a daily basis. I remeber once they bombed something cuz it's moving and looks like a military truck. It's truck all right, but not military...It ended up killing many people. They didn't apologize. And remember the once they bombed Chinese embassy. They said "we are sorry that embassy's been destroyed", but refuses to apologize. I donno if 'we are sorry that...' is a apology or not, cuz it has many meanings. US's bulliness is well known through out the world.
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posted December 09, 2002 11:49 AM |
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It's my understanding that the embassy was bombed because the americans were using out of date maps of the area they were bombing........... mind you they also succeeded in bombing somewhere like romania or something (I don't remember too well now which country) in the same conflict......
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posted December 09, 2002 11:26 PM |
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No one is perfect, everyone is scrutinizing the U.S. Why not Algeria? Because Algeria is not a World Power.
Uh oh, I answered myself!
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posted December 10, 2002 12:25 AM |
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Tsk Tsk you know full well what that means you loon 
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posted December 10, 2002 12:29 AM |
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I don't know if I can take it. Can you take it? Yes, I can take it. I think I will cry...
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posted December 10, 2002 12:30 AM |
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It's my understanding that the embassy was bombed because the americans were using out of date maps of the area they were bombing........... mind you they also succeeded in bombing somewhere like romania or something (I don't remember too well now which country) in the same conflict......
.....does that make it more righteous? Or will it kill US to make a formal apologize?
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posted December 10, 2002 12:53 AM |
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I'm pretty sure we did, maybe you just didn't hear about it.
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posted December 10, 2002 01:36 AM |
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I believe they did, but why they were using old maps is beyond anyone's geuss
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Man I really wish people would read a newspaper once in a while…then maybe they would have something intelligent to contribute…..specifically Tree…..so many errors…let me point out some:
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“why is bush so desparate about attackin' iraq...the previous presidents never did so.”
Lets see former president Bush attacked Iraqi soldiers in Kuwait, President Clinton enforced the “no fly zone” and in 1998 brought to congress his plans to remove Saddam for not cooperating. Guess you are incorrect.
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“And no country except for england supported him.”
To start with there was USA, Israel, and England…then there was UNANIMOUS authorization by the UN security council.
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“This might just an act to ensure and show that US is still the strongest country on earth (which is now fading)”
Ummm USA has one of the strongest if not the most powerful military forces in the world, and except during the Clinton years it is not fading by any means.
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“ by punishing those who oppose it”
Nonsense. Iraq is in violation of their terms of surrender…the regime change has nothing to do with punishing someone. Many countries oppose the USA and we don’t “punish them”.
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“ Other countries are not all idiots, so they are not buying it.”
Ummm as mentioned, unanimous support from the UN security council…btw unanmious means everyone. But even if there wasn’t that support doesn’t mean anything….many countries didn’t join the war against Hitler in WWII.
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“The reason for attackin' is pretty vague”
Hmmm…violation of 16 UN resolutions is vague??? Possession of WMD, has refused to cooperate with previous UN inspections…those are vague to you?
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“ China, Russain, England, and Europe all has even more dangerous weapons, why don't Bush attack them?”
Hate to point out the obvious…but that seems what you are in need of. Most of those countries are democracies (except China) and are not in violation of their terms of surrender….big difference there.
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“ He's just pickin' soft ones to show those he dare to do so. “
Man the ignorance really has to stop…world wide Iraq probably has a stronger military than ½ of the rest world…so much for that theory.
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“Then he said 'We still havn't got proof.......'”
Actually Blair quite remarkably published lots of “proof” months ago…guess you missed it.
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“In South Korea, they shoot down civilians for fun”
Uh….that is just pure fantasy. During training exercises some soldiers accidentally ran over a teenage girl….but shoot down civilians for fun....man your fiction needs more improvement!
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“ And US people in china can sexually assault chinese women, and receive no punishment (but receive praise). “
LOL….LOL….man you just pull this stuff straight out of your butt don’t ya.
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"And US bombed a wedding in Afrikhan, then found all deads are innocent.”
Ummm and now for reality….there was a wedding celebration…where the innocent albeit ignorant people started shooting weapons in the air (during wartime mind you) to celebrate to which a pilot thought they were being shot at him so he responded in kind.
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“U should know that starting this century, America's position in the world has been shaken and fading.”
Does your ignorance know any bounds??? USA has the most powerful economy in the world….as mentioned before….just one of our states (California)….one out of 50 that is…if it were its own nation would be the 6th strongest economy in the world. Yep we are really weak economically….get educated.
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” One canada offical called Bush moron and got fired.”
Uh actually she resigned…but I guess facts are just pretty bothersome to ya.
In summary READ the news…it really does provide valuable information that might actually inform your opinions.
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posted December 10, 2002 06:36 AM |
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And US people in china can sexually assault chinese women, and receive no punishment (but receive praise). (that guy's called Mark, if u r interested).
You know, there is a possibilty that anybody "can" sexually assault (nationality) women in (country) and receive no punishment but praise as long as they are willing to pay for it.
I am not saying that you are not telling the truth, but would surely like to know where do you get all these information from?
Contrary to what Dargon said, I think maybe you have just read too many "newspaper".
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posted December 10, 2002 07:38 AM |
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for the mark thing..it happened a time ago. (can't remember...half year? 1 year?) It's very famous in china. He unbuttoned some women's cloth and says "i'm a american, so i have the right to kill u". The women started to cry. Later, judge decided to charge him 50 bucks. But he refused to pay and on his photo, he was makin faces to the victim. All the web surfers in china got so upset they all said "Execute that mark". But the lawyer, being a chinese (which i hated most), claimed 'mark is only trying to sweep off dusts on that women's collar, should be praised'. I don't really know how it ends, but it's just too.......(and i don't think they punished mark in the end)
anyway, that's off topic. Why do us want to attack iraq? is it truely coz iraq possess weapons? well US have far more dangerous weapons, so does russia, england, europe, China, Japan. Why iraq? I don't think they dare attack US. Is it to help other countries? But it has nothing to do with US. And they are trepassing other countries' rights too by placing military in their territory. If that's good, why don't US want say, China to place some troops around washington? But why do they have so many nuclear submarines around China's sea?
My guess is that, since iraq are near a area where oil is abundant. Us want to seize control of that area, but contries such as iraq prevent them from doing so. By attackin' it, US can remove obstacle, also has a opportunity to place troops there. That way they can gain access to world's major resource line.
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posted December 10, 2002 03:08 PM |
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Yeah, well, a Chinese guy killed a bunch of American babies. His name was Chan. It happened 6 or 7 years ago. He didn't get punished, in fact he was given more babies to kill since he had done such a good job of it. Seriously, I remember
And a french guy, Jean Phillipe, he ran around New York city kicking puppies for fun. Really, he did, everybody in NYC knows about it.
Oh yeah, and there was that Russian guy, Yuri, he was eating people's brains in LA on Friday. It was all over the papers, honest.
Everybody is committing atrocities against the US. Really, I swear, I have names and everything, so it must be true.
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posted December 10, 2002 05:37 PM |
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*watches his sarcasm detection monitor explode with being overloaded*
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posted December 10, 2002 11:08 PM |
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I totally agree with Dargon for once, and the only thing that tree said that I agreed with was when "he" said that Iraq can't attack the U.S. At least not directly. The biggest threat to the U.S. is domestic.
The countries that you say have weapons and the U.S. does nothing to stop them? They don't need stopping! They are democracies and hundreds of people have to agree before one of those weapons are launched. In Iraq it is one person, really.
And those who think that the U.S. is in Iraq just for oil are ignorant. Watch the news! Read the papers! Most Democrats that I know think it is just for oil, but history tells us that Democrats are stupid. 2000 presidential election, where? Florida! They didn't know how to vote then. 2002 Governor election, again in Florida. Still didn't know how to vote.
Get a clue!
And Bort, I know exactly what you are talking about!
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posted December 11, 2002 07:11 AM |
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ROFLOL...Bort that was great Pure genius=-)
Wolfman...while I do agree many democrats are ignorant...they aren't all stupid...take Bort for example.
But yeah the whole Florida thing is hilarious...here democrats apparently couldn't figure out how to use a ballot that the majority of 6th graders in a study were able to use....that must give the democrats great pride
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