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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Worst Artifact
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sirzapdos
sirzapdos


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posted August 03, 2004 05:34 PM

I never found much use in the Pendant of Free Will. By the time a hero's spell power is high enough to use hypno, any opponent has huge stacks that can't be hypno'd, and you would have way better spells to cast then hypno.
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Pirahna
Pirahna


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posted August 04, 2004 10:02 PM

Hmm ... the worst artifacts are :

Talisman of Mana when you don't have a spell book !
The + Necromancy skills artifacts are pretty useless even if you are a necromancer ...
and let's not forget the eagle eye skill ... which only archers use ...
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Dingo
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posted August 05, 2004 08:21 AM

What about those artifacts that give +1 duration of a spell.  Those are only useful the first few days.
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Lord_Woock
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posted August 05, 2004 12:57 PM

Unless you have a spellpower higher than 1
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FireSpirit
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posted August 10, 2004 07:14 PM

Pendant of Life is useless too. IF the enemy decides to cast Death Ripple, it only does about 30 points of Damage.

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nagash28
nagash28


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posted August 21, 2004 10:35 PM

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Pendant of Life is useless too. IF the enemy decides to cast Death Ripple, it only does about 30 points of Damage.

this is good to have if you have a necro with the death ripple spell and some  living in your army the death ripple  begin at 20 damge but can go up with power and sorcery and earth magic . the only 4 level spell i saw the AI using are TP and chain of lightning so the neclase that protect againts berserk is usless . eagles eyes can help on begining if you dont have blind or haste

every articraft can help sometime the ilusion that enemy dont have it ( many time one articraft was in more then one example )

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Evil_Warrior
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posted February 11, 2006 01:03 AM

They are Hourglass of Evil Hour and Spirit of Oppression
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Xarfax111
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posted February 11, 2006 02:03 AM

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They are Hourglass of Evil Hour and Spirit of Oppression


Spirit of Oppression is ONE OF THE BEST ARTEFACTS..the best artefact of its class. Get that!

..geez u write your noobie stuff almost all thread in this library.
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bjorn190
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posted February 11, 2006 02:46 AM

Id say the worst artifacts are:

Sea captains hat
Endless sack of gold
Thunder helmet

Because when youre doing a tope and get those, you are likely to lose the game. No other artifacts are likely to cost you the entire game, but these three..  

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Tc_Fear
Tc_Fear


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posted February 11, 2006 01:39 PM

agree with bjorn
+ 'angel wings'even more

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Zsa
Zsa


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posted February 12, 2006 11:19 PM

i'd like to add the sea necklace and the dead man's boots to this, especially for templates where there are few to no relics.  Getting that, while your opponent gets sword of hellfire or medallion of courage really makes the game nasty to play .

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Evil_Warrior
Evil_Warrior


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Duke of Demon
posted February 13, 2006 08:19 AM

Hoo.......

Quote:

Spirit of Oppression is ONE OF THE BEST ARTEFACTS..the best artefact of its class. Get that!

..geez u write your noobie stuff almost all thread in this library.


But I think is NOT!! I don't care what you mean noobie stuff. but I NEVER use an artifact that makes my hero worse  than generally.

Everytime I get those two artifacts, I just put them in my backpack. Coz I don't want to negate my morale and luck in battle.
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Xarfax111
Xarfax111


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posted February 13, 2006 09:14 AM

Well maybe one day you will be good enough in heroes that u will see that u r wrong. But i strongly doubt that.

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angelito
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posted February 13, 2006 01:57 PM

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But I think is NOT!! I don't care what you mean noobie stuff. but I NEVER use an artifact that makes my hero worse  than generally.

Everytime I get those two artifacts, I just put them in my backpack. Coz I don't want to negate my morale and luck in battle.


You really should listen to guys who have much more experience playing that game than u have. You wonīt find any low level artefact which is as much usefull as the Spirit of Opression.
Why? Let me explain a bit:

Letīs say u have the choice fighting either dendroid soldiers or diamond golems. Your army exists of shooters (lets say archers), pikemen and some griffins. Which would u prefer to fight and why? I can tell you, what most of the (experienced) players would do. They fight the golems...why?....because the golems will never get moral, so u can exactly fortell where they will walk on the battlefield and "arrange" them the way you want. This is much more difficult to do with the dendroids. If 2 stacks get moral, they could probably corner your archers / pikemen, and then the fight will be lost. If u have the Spirit of Opression equipped, these dendroids "turn into golems", coz they will never get moral. So u can win that fight much easier. The "disadvantage" for your troops, never getting a second move in a turn coz of good moral is nothing compared to the advantage of perfect prediction about the movement of the enemy units.
Just make a map in the editor and arrange a battle, where your hero has an ammocart, 20 archers, 30 pikemen and 3 griffins. Now fight against 150 dwarves on grass. One time with SoO equipped, the other time without. Then compare your losses.
Keep us informed about the results
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Russ
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posted February 13, 2006 05:18 PM

1) Has to be the bird of perception. (100% useless)
2) Hourglass of Evil Hour is quite useless.
3) Some stupid pendant that gives you some useless immunity and takes up a useful artifact slot.

Amulet of the undertaker and the other Necro arties kick ass (if you are a necro).
I am always happy to get the +1 spell duration arties, those are extremely useful in an early game where your hero has spellpower 1 or 2. Even later on an extra 2-3 turns of mass slow will often save your life.
Well, I won't even mention the spirit of oppression - very often that one is a game winner. If you get it on your starting hero, consider 1/2 the job done.

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TNT_Addict
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posted February 13, 2006 07:11 PM

The most useless art has got to be the angelic alliance!!
I mean you take five of the greatest artifacts in the game and make them into one!? One stinky art that allowes rampart, tower, fortress, castle and stronghold to be mixed without bad morale?!!?
Talk about useless now sheeesh...

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Fortress_fan
Fortress_fan

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posted February 13, 2006 07:15 PM

Quote:
Quote:
Every artifact is a good artifact. Always use they have.


Yeah, except when your not a necromancer and you get the Vampires Cowl.  Other than that, I'd have to agree.
It's petty good to get the Vampires Cowl as a Death knigth too!

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Fortress_fan
Fortress_fan

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posted February 13, 2006 07:22 PM

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The most useless art has got to be the angelic alliance!!
I mean you take five of the greatest artifacts in the game and make them into one!? One stinky art that allowes rampart, tower, fortress, castle and stronghold to be mixed without bad morale?!!?
Talk about useless now sheeesh...
Its not ussles! (You can mix Conflux units too)
The worst artifact are the shackles of war! If you have ben hooribly defeated and are forced to surrender, you absolutly DONT want the shackles of war!

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Lord_Woock
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posted February 13, 2006 07:35 PM

If you know that there is a possibility of having to surrender, you just don't equip it. Duh.
It's for keeping the opponent hero from running away. Shackles is far from worst.

As for angelic alliance, I know it was a joke, but hey, you DO keep the bonuses from the individual artifacts!
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angelito
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posted February 13, 2006 07:44 PM

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...(You can mix Conflux units too)...

Wrong.
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