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hobgoblin
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posted November 20, 2002 06:55 PM |
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wishes for monsters
I prefer to tell all my wishes for castles and creatures now, before it's too late (if it's not already too late), instead of crying when the news about them come out.
In this thread you can tell:
-All the creatures you would like to see back in the game,
-All the creatures you absolutely don't want to be left out in the game,
-all the creatures you don't want to see in the game,
-some castles you would like, listing or not the creatures you would want to be in,
-the special abilities you would like for a creature,
-the look,
-if you want a creature to be stronger or weaker
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Me:
I would like to see back (in order):
-goblins or hobgoblins, maybe both,
-dendroids,
-wyverns,
-giants,
-boars (rided or no by orcs)
-dreadknights,
-liches,
-wraiths,
-rocks,
creatures I absolutely don't want to be left out:
Hmmm, I won't say all because it's alot, and it's for the most creatures taht can't, I think be left out.
The main are the creatures like elves, dwarves, trolls, ogres, halflings, sprites, orcs...
Some others, that I'm less sure they will be kept:
-gargoyls, (in death or order please, not in life),
-elementals,
-alot of humans, hmm, probably all,
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I totally don't care for angels and devils, I also don't really care for cyclops.
Creatures that I don't want to see in the game:
-Waspworts
-venomspawns
-dragon golem (or maybe in another way),
and, I hesitate for troglodythes, I don't really like them.
For the special abilities, I don't like this of the minotaur, and I would like the life draining to be less powerfull. I spoke about some others in my last thread, but it's not really important.
For the look: I would like a come back to the orc of H3, I don't like the orc pig-version.
The creatures I would like to be stronger are:
-the dwarf,
-the orc,
-the wolf,
-the squire,
-why not the minotaur,
For the castles, I would like a come back to the whole undead necropolis, and a stronghold looking like this of H2 or H3.
I don't like much the asylum of H4, a big shufle of creatures that shouldn't go together.
Hmm, I've told my main wishes. I might be back for more.
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IYY
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted November 21, 2002 11:14 PM |
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Back in the game, I want to see:
- The boars from H2
- The manticore from H3
- The archer centaur from H2, no more stupid spears!
- Rocs from H2 and 3
- Redesign the Griffin to be more like in H2 or 3!
I don't want to see:
- Stupid pointless creatures that don't belong in a mythlogical game like Heroes. Leprechaun, Waspwort, Mantis..
- Venom Spawn
- Sea Monsters
I want the nature, death and might castles to stay for sure. The rest can change.
The look:
- 3D style is ok, but they should be more like in H2.
- As I said before, griffin look is horrible.
- Unicorns look like ****
- damn it, they all look like ****!
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Svetac
Promising
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Saintified Paladin
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posted November 22, 2002 04:03 AM |
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Paladin to be back.
Stronghold of H4 is ruined. No more greenskin there. So I want it to go back to the H2/3 way. Take out the Harpyes and the Nomads.
The Asylum should be reworked also. Bring back the Centaurs. Add Liontaur or bring back the Manticore. Put the Efreeti in demonic town. Put the Nightmare in Death town.
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shaowei
Adventuring Hero
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posted November 22, 2002 03:30 PM |
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I want:
Return of the magnificent royal griffins! (not necessarily an upgrade, just the looks)
Bye bye leprechauns. In battle, it is a bit too much to see small green men with hats and fancy clothes. (I was trying to exclude from suspect list the gremlins from HOMM3 with this definition of leprechauns but failed... HOMM3 wasn't perfect either )
Make one eastern-looking and one western-looking dragon (like in HOMM3, the Dungeon had the western look and Rampart the eastern).
Don't make me choose between a minotaur and a superior creature I want minotaurs in my warlock/dungeon/assylum army. Make them look good.
The greenskins in stronghold should be making a return. They are the joy and fun of the castle, I find them more "barbaric" than giant birds and harpies.
Bring back the (power)liches. One of my favorite shooters. I really support new ideas, but venom spawn instead of lich, what were they thinking
Overall, make more effort with graphics. Make those consistent (same style for the whole game).
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hobgoblin
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posted November 22, 2002 05:09 PM |
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Leprechaun does belong to a mythology. It comes from Irland, or Britany. That he has a toof unny look is another thing. Personnaly, I've always liked small creatures, so I won't be angry if the leprechaun is always here.
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Gnolly-guy
Adventuring Hero
Storm Gnoll
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posted November 23, 2002 01:12 AM |
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Gimme Gnolls!!! Lots of gnolls!!!!
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I am back with a new & more incredible power as the storm gnoll-Sta-Puff, the marshmallow man!
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Lich_King
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted November 23, 2002 01:37 AM |
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Monsters that must be back:
1.Power Liches
2.Magic Elemental
3.Wraith
4.Manticores
5.Mighty Gorgons
6.Vyverns
7.Dragon flies
8.Gold Dragon
Creatures, that must be removed:
1.Laprechauns
2.Satyrs
Creatures, that need plastic seurgery:
1.Elves
2.Behemoths
3.Cerberus
4.Medusas
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Kujo
Known Hero
who loves to script.
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posted November 24, 2002 05:36 PM |
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why you want to get rid of leprechauns? Their fortune ability can be very potent if used correctly. it reduces damage on the monster by a pretty good amount.
ex:
10 white tigers vs 4 waspworts.
normally the waspworts would woop up on the tigers, but with fortune the tigers can kill them.
Summary:
Fortune decreases amount of damage taken by creature because of maximum luck, and therefore leprechauns should NOT be deleted.
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guten tag
du bist schwul.
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shaowei
Adventuring Hero
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posted November 25, 2002 10:21 AM |
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Quote:
Summary:
Fortune decreases amount of damage taken by creature because of maximum luck, and therefore leprechauns should NOT be deleted.
It is not the usefulness of the leprechauns, it's their industrial-age hats and clothes that are the problem. The game lacks integrity. Just as dragon golems could have been presented as crystal dragons (HOMM3), the leprechaun can be fine with some medieval clothes on.
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hobgoblin
Known Hero
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posted November 25, 2002 06:41 PM |
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Quote:
why you want to get rid of leprechauns? Their fortune ability can be very potent if used correctly. it reduces damage on the monster by a pretty good amount.
ex:
10 white tigers vs 4 waspworts.
normally the waspworts would woop up on the tigers, but with fortune the tigers can kill them.
Summary:
Fortune decreases amount of damage taken by creature because of maximum luck, and therefore leprechauns should NOT be deleted.
No, seriously? I really believed the fortune was just a spell to make monsters happy sothat they can smile?
It's not the usefulness of a monster that determine if you want to keep it or no. Every monsters can be usefull, (sometimes it's not the case, but how can you know until the game come?), it's his look, his origin...
If you just juge by usefulness, then you can make a supersonic jet, that flies, shoots, ignores lines of sight, and then everybody will want to keep it.
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Damacon_Ace
Famous Hero
Also known as Nobris Agni
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posted November 25, 2002 10:21 PM |
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Some creatures I wish to have back in H5:
- Lich (the only undead shooter - necropolis should go back to the undead only format)
- Wyvern
- Dendroid
- Boar
- Crystal Dragon
- Black Knight
- Gnoll
- Lizardman
- Gorgons (I miss these!)
- the demon gargoyles from H1/H2 (I don't really like the animated versions much)
- Pegasus
Creatures that need a makeover in appearance:
- Nagas (butt ugly bald woman! I hope they re-add the long hair that was on the h3 one)
- Elves (they should look like the H3 sharpshooters)
- Griffins (put back the yippy ears and make them stand on two legs!)
- Phoenix (no more burning chicken!)
- Fairy Dragons (they should be a different colour and have butterfly wings like in H3)
- Mermaids (green hair is no excuse!!! Mermaids should have very long, smooth, flowing blond hair)
New Creatures I wish for in H5:
- Grim Reaper
- Lion
- Giant Serpent
- Will 'o' Wisp
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Nebuka
Promising
Supreme Hero
Save me Jebus!
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posted November 26, 2002 09:37 PM |
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My only wish is that all those mythological creatures got replaced by real ones...Age of Empires units comes to mind...
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Damacon_Ace
Famous Hero
Also known as Nobris Agni
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posted November 27, 2002 04:34 AM |
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Quote:
My only wish is that all those mythological creatures got replaced by real ones...Age of Empires units comes to mind...
But then what fun it will be? It won't become a fantasy game then - it will be a pretty boring history game! The reason for mythological creatures in the game is to make it a fantasy game. HOMM is and will always be based on fantasy, not on history. 
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Medusa
Famous Hero
Yeah, right
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posted November 27, 2002 02:27 PM |
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Don't we have enough humans in the haven? that's what nerves me about the h4- the humans. I like the mythol. creatures and i dont think they should be removed from the game. That's the most interesting thing in the creatures
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Djive
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Zapper of Toads
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posted November 27, 2002 07:56 PM |
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No Myhtologic creatures => No fantasy game.
I want to get away from real life consideraions and real life things when playing. I don't want to be reminded of these things by having real and realistic creatures.
The more mythological creatures the better, I say.
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hobgoblin
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posted December 03, 2002 02:03 PM |
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I'm not completely against the disappearance of the humans that are out of the haven, but in this case, replace them by other elves dwarves, halflings, orcs... I like mythological creatures but I wouldn't like to have a game full of demons and lizards.
And if all humans were kept, I would be quite satisfied.
What I want is not a game full of humans, nor a totally realistic game, but just a game with nice creatures instead of ugly ones (I know it's quite obscur but you understand...), turned the most medieval as possible, and with no technology.
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Ancubis
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Disgraceful
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posted December 03, 2002 09:06 PM |
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Advespa, the female wasp demons
Amethyst Dragon, the enchanted purple gem Dragons
Annis, the green hags from the swamps
Anubite, the minions of Anubis
Balrog, the generals from the demon realms
Banshee, the wailing female drow spirits
Barghest, the evil druidic goblinoids
Basilisk, the giant gazing lizards
Bebilith, the demon hunting demonic spiders
Beholder, the evil eye monsters
Bodak, the bodies of pure hate
Carnage, the animated blood of tyrants
Carrion Crawler, the corpse devouring worm beasts
Centaur, the horse bodied nomads
Cerberus, the 3 headed dogs from hell
Charybdis, the vortex nymphs from the seas
Chaos Dragon, the 2 headed demonic red dragons
Chuul, the hunting lobster-insect hybrids
Cloaker, the stingrays from the shadows
Crimson Death, the vampiric mists
Crysmal, the crystallic arachnids
Cyclops, the one-eyed human eating giants
Dao, the evil genies from the earth planes
Dark Naga, the dark minded snake guardians
Dark Unicorn, the black cursed unicorns
Death Knight, the fallen paladins
Deepspawn, the spawners of monsters
Destrachan, the harmonically cruel lizards
Displacer Beast, the 6 legged tentacle panthers
Doppelganger, the intelligent shape shifters
Dracolich, the cruel skeletal dragons
Dragonne, the dragon-lion hybrids
Drider, the cursed spider-drow hybrids
Drow Elf, the cruel elves from the underdark
Duergar, the evil dwarves from the underdark
Efreeti, the evil genies from the planes of fire
Ettercap, the commanders of the spider armies
Ettin, the 2 headed shamanic ogres
Formian, the centaur-ant hybrids
Gargoyle, the cursed demonic statues of cruelness
Gelatinous Cube, the giant cubes of acid ooze
Ghoul, the second evolution of a zombie
Gibbering Mouther, the creatures from your nightmares
Goblin, the small and smart mechanicans
Green Slime, the green hungry oozes
Grim Reaper, the cruel commanders of the undead
Harpy, the musical hag-vulture hybrids
Hatori, the crocodiles that swim in sand
Hieraco-Sphinx, the evil hawk-headed sphinxes
Huror, the chaotic undead treants
Imp, the magic steeling demonic familiars
Intellect Devourer, the walking brains
Invisible Stalker, the invisible air elemental spies
Iron Golem, the mechanic guardians of the goblins
Kelpie, the seaweed monsters of illusions
Kyton, the chain controlling devils
Lamia, the evil white tiger-witch hybrids
Leshy, the children of the forest
Magmin, giants made from lava
Magog, the tortured demonic elves
Manticore, the evil magical human slayers
Mantigon, the dragonish mantis beasts
Marid, the genies from the water planes
Marilith, the 6 armed snake bodied female demons
Marrash, the winged gnolls that bring diseases
Medusa, the evil gazing snake witches
Megapede, the gigantic cruel centipedes
Mimic, the tricksters of mimic magic
Mind Flayer, the chaotic brain surgeons
Minotaur, the bull headed assassins of the gods
Morkoth, the kraken-human hybrids
Mummy, the cursed royal corpses of the deserts
Myconid, the toadstool demons
Nightmare, the evil demonic horses of hell
Owlbear, the bear-owl hybrids of Luna the moon goddess
Pygmy, the evil animated voodoo dolls
Remorhaz, the giant worms from the polar region
Rust Wing, the giant rust eating moths
Sahuagin, the demons from the deep
Salamander, the guardian lizards of the flames
Satyr, the evil demonic goat tricksters
Scylla, the moray headed hydras from the seas
Shadow Dragon, the dragons that hide in shadows
Slaad, the order hating frog-human hybrids
Spirit Sword, the spirits that animate weapons
Stinger, the scorpion-demon hybrids
Storm Roc, the giant weather controlling birds
Succubus, the charming temptress demons
Tarrasque, the giant ancient behemoths
Tendriculos, the behemoths made from rotten plants
Troll, the stinking green giants
Umber Hulk, the scarab-gorilla hybrids
Vampire, the blood drinking undead-demons
Vampire Rose, the bloodthirsty beauties
Vargouille, the hideous flying skulls
Vixen, the vain silver elf-fox lycanthropes
Water Weird, the animated water elementals
Wererat, the cursed pirates-rat lycanthropes
Wereshark, the cursed shark-triton lycanthropes
Will-O-Wisp, the static spirits of elf children
Winter Worg, the intelligent wolves from the tundra’s
Wyvern, the drakes of fatal viper
Yeth Hound, the flying speedy undead hounds
Yuan-Ti, the demi-intelligent snake people
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Fedmahn
Tavern Dweller
Chronic Alcoholic
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posted December 03, 2002 09:29 PM |
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lol, u sure got some spare time there matey
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tree
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 08, 2002 01:48 AM |
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I would like the ominiscent Azure Dragon back...but maybe change the appearance, like making it a Azure Wyrm. Lightning strike, magic resistance, and has a growth of 1 per 3 weeks and cost 15 gems. Those in neutral army can be fun...
Other than that, i don't like too many dragons...they end up all the same. So, a omniscent dragon (azure), an standard fighting dragon (black), a bone dragon, a magic dragon (faerie) is enough. Robo dragon serve as the same purpose as bone dragon (mindless), so it can be left out.
Then, that mantis is fun...a bug can slice a behemoth. Hope that stays.
Units to be stronger:
minotaur...they should be strong. Like in war3, they are the strongest land units.
Dwarf's slayer only add 50%...to small to make any difference cuz of their weak nature. Should be 100% bonus.
Angels should really be stronger...it doesn't make sense that monks and crusader have advantage over death, while the angels, which should be the higher of that don't.
Also the nagas. They are now useless. And fix their face too...they look like baked potatoes.
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terje_the_ma...
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Disciple of Herodotus
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posted December 17, 2002 01:21 PM |
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I would very much like some creatures from Robert Jordans Wheel of Time books, or maybe an add-on for HOMM3. But that's probably to much to ask.. It would be so great to see HOMM Aes Sedais of the Green Ajah kick some Trollock or Myrdraal ass... This would also enable me to finally finish the WoT scenario 'The Dragon Reborn' that I've been working on for a few years on the superb HOMM3 editor.
Anyway, in a game like Heroes, it has to be fantasy creatures, not real ones. If you want to play realistic turnbased strategy, go play some Civ3..
I can't quite remember what forum this was, so I'll just add a wish for HOMM5: Make the editor more like the one on HOMM3, with 'balloon help', easy quest progarmming, and better 'properties' set up!!
(I would just like to add a little about how sucky my Wot scenario are. Here I go: I had to use Demons for Trollocs, Pit Fiends for Myrdraal, Zealots for female Aes Sedai/channelers, Arch Mages for male, Dendroid soilders for Ogier, AND it wasn't enough player colors to add the Seanchan, which added a relatively large hole in my plot.)
Removing myself from the, to outsiders, boring-nerd-corner of my mind, I return to the world of the living, and with it, back to HOMM4, my daytime activity #1 (my nighttime #2; reading WoT is my favourite there) I would just like to add a little compliment to the NWC team.
The 'hero in battle' consept ruled, the harder lines between the allignments also, and some more I can't remember just now (very bad memory today, it's been 6 months since the last time I had a proper vacation..).
In the end I would like to repeat my wish for a Wheel of Time add-on for HOMM3!!
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"Sometimes I think everyone's just pretending to be brave, and none of us really are. Maybe pretending to be brave is how you get brave, I don't know."
- Grenn, A Storm of Swords.
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