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lord_crusader
Promising
Supreme Hero
UHU!! supreme!
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posted February 07, 2003 01:51 AM |
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for the masters of heroes ---2---
Hello this is the corners of a "n00bs" LOL  to learn more about this game...
My new question is, in a game with 130(hard) difficulty. what is the betters tactic???
I´m go for the money???
something like this
townhall day 1
marketplace day 2
mageguild day 3
blacksmith day 4
cityhall day 5
citadel day 6
castle day 7
capitol day 1
or for the creatures, something like this
townhall day 1
second level day 2
third level day 3
forth level day 4
fifth level day 5
citadel day 6
and something more depends of the town day 7
well, this tactics is in the suppusition, we find the resources and we have the enough resources to construct all this buldings...
I think is good for the n00bs (I hate that word) for a good beggining in this new world of online games...
Please experts I wanna see your oppinions about the start tactics...
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splexx
Known Hero
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posted February 07, 2003 02:42 AM |
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hmmmm....
And I quote u:
Yeah Right you can give the excuse of the "noobs" don´t know nothing, you can tell it if you want, But I play heroes 6 years ago...
anyway I see you don´t have the brain to play heroes 4, and I understand you is too complicate for people like you, with all you presumption
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LMAO, u play heroes for 6 years and u want advice how to play?
And we all to stupid to play H4?
what a putz
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attila
Known Hero
Young Warrior
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posted February 07, 2003 04:08 AM |
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heres what i do but then again i suck on randoms 
CAStle- if not very rich go Champions and Castle wk 1. Also if XL UNder or NO under and super poor go capital then angels. ANd if pretty rich liek Ring Templete go angels and castle week one.
Inferno- Efferts and pit fiends wk one then devils if mers looking good if not city hall.
Rampart- Unicorns and Castle. then greens if good crystal if not city call and then greens.
tower- upgrade masters day 1 and go raise some hell
other towns do later.
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lord_crusader
Promising
Supreme Hero
UHU!! supreme!
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posted February 07, 2003 05:54 AM |
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Quote:
LMAO, u play heroes for 6 years and u want advice how to play?
And we all to stupid to play H4?
what a putz
Yes I´m playing the game for 6 years since heroes 2, and kings bouty, and I have my tactics... But I´m new in online, and in this game never stop to learn... I attack Sir_Stiven because he is have a lot o presumption, I like Heroes 4, and if nobody gives me a good reason, why heroes 4 sucks??, I only can say the reason is that I say...is too complicated ...
And all you know this game in online is different for a hotseat or sigle player... and I only want talk about tactics to learn... and for the new players can see what tactics are the best in online...
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted February 07, 2003 07:55 AM |
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loool..guess this kinda says most about it huh? yepp h4 sure is to complicated for me
As for tactics - go for creatures.
Its as simple as that.
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lord_crusader
Promising
Supreme Hero
UHU!! supreme!
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posted February 07, 2003 08:01 AM |
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Thanks sir_stiven your participation is very important for me and all the n00bs
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted February 07, 2003 08:04 AM |
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bah if you want real advice how to play the different towns check in the "library of enlightenment" forum. There are good tactics for almost every town there.
Beware though, some of the "tactics" written will prolly make you more harm than good so remember that going for creatures first is the best thing to do.
good luck
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lord_crusader
Promising
Supreme Hero
UHU!! supreme!
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posted February 07, 2003 08:07 AM |
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Thanks Í will go tu the library of enlightenment
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notmytohhandle
Known Hero
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posted February 07, 2003 02:47 PM |
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stiven is somewhat correct in saying that u should go for creatures. alltho i find many players build to much creatures !!! even some om the best players.
u should always look and try to estimate how much gold u can harvest from yr nearby area. and after that decide if u really want to build that castle or lvl 6 week 1. many times its alot better to spare those 5 k and be able to afford buying what u built instead, to have an even faster development !
I am offcourse talking about random maps.
/Archie
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midnight
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted February 07, 2003 03:06 PM |
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yeah i agree with archie here, i aim for about 5k gold spare at start of day 8 so i can buy my best troops and start ripping the map up. means i often do a citadel build but rarely a castle build. talking random maps here.
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Kuma
Promising
Supreme Hero
u can type so much text in her
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posted February 07, 2003 04:15 PM |
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Day 8 and 9 are the most important days of the game. U need to crash at least for 10K of gold those two days.
Best done to have at least 5K left on day 7. I'd say 7K even.
I want a new heroe and all of the useful creatures on day 8.
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People used to call me crazy, but now that I'm rich I am excentric.
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Xarfax111
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
The last hero standing
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posted February 07, 2003 04:50 PM |
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..i disagree, in most cases i would still go for 2cond castle wall week1 ...only if there is a block keeping me away from further terrain i wouldnt build it. U need the hitpoints to go into an Utopia early. But who am I
Xarfax1
PS: Sometimes if i might can get lvl7 building instead i dont built both. Best example is Castle. If u play it right u can decide to go for cavaliers with walls or angels without on day 4.
...just my unexpierenced 2 greek dollares
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notmytohhandle
Known Hero
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posted February 07, 2003 04:56 PM |
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if i play castle i am usually happy if i can build lvl 1 2(upgraded) 4 5 and sometimes maybe cit but thats just me i guess,
I dont get how ppl always get cavs and castle or even angels and castle. but thast okay i try to find other means to compensate.
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lord_crusader
Promising
Supreme Hero
UHU!! supreme!
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posted February 08, 2003 02:33 AM |
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In sometimes I take this tactic
Start to bulding for a City hall, and if a have a town with shotter in the first 3 levels (well necropolis not) I build this building (LOL) beacause the shoters can be helpful in the start of the game...
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted February 08, 2003 08:27 AM |
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yeah ima speacking with you too!
Shotters good! yes yes! 
City Hall good too! then i can afford many to get zombies because i will have plenty of the gold!!
because ZOMBIES IS DA BOMB!
But shotters good too - cyclos can kill many wall with big stone!
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lord_crusader
Promising
Supreme Hero
UHU!! supreme!
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posted February 10, 2003 05:35 PM |
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Celfious
Promising
Legendary Hero
From earth
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posted February 10, 2003 06:06 PM |
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Prime starting goals in relation to beggining development. Creature growth, and finding a healthy resource pile and future growth.
It is rare, I dont do this:
On day one, build the next level building for creatures.
Recruit all available!!
Then, send out a scout or 2 (and army)
Look at the map.
Look at your resources..
Look at all the requirements for the next level buildings for creatures..
The goal, is to properly weigh those thing's, and determine "WIll lack of gold/resources be an issue??
You actualy have 2 days with as many scouts as needed, to recive many awnsers, so you will not miss a day to build.
It's doubted, gold/resource will be an issue enough, to upgrade your town hall/city hall (whtevr)
before you upgrade to a level 4 dwelling!
Yet still, upgrading a town hall, would give you a few more days. You'd have money to upgrade to level 4, (or extra after purchase)
So, if it's gonna be along wait, upgrade to 1000 gold a day.
Use the army you have, to continue collecting on map resources, and mines.
Dont spend anymore resources, on your army, unless your stuck. The map strength requires more army force, in order for a large percentage of your current force to stay alive.
Dont waste army strength for hero upgrades, unless they are one time use upgrades and enemy seems near!
Dont upgrade to the unwanted/less helpful creature buildings, unless it seems the only choice.. (Very hard to get a specific resource..Will lose castle with no level 4s, will lose all of those one time use upgrades which are vital to senario success, ect ect)
Once, you have level 1-4 dwellings, make way to castle and upgrade cash. If you have a mage, upgrade magic to his level (but dont splurge.. This is a decisive situation aswell) unless you need to be in and out of your castle, with the unfinished army purchase.
Througout this begginging development tactic, you are also looking for new castles.
Tactics used here are optional aswell, but for elite gaming..
Is the extra gold/creature growth, worth recuriting more (spending more) from Castle #1??
Would it be more benifical to wait it out, or to go for the 2nd castle??
That would probably hold back on castle 1's level 4 upgrade!
Dose castle #2 step in near the beggining? Would there be alot of days of gold at hand?
If so, and if it is bennificial, then recruit "needed strength only" from castle #1.
Now, the question is, "Should I work on upgrading Castle #2, or continue shooting for castle #1's development?"
Usualy, the correct awnser here.. Is extremely hard to pin point.
You must pull out a calculator here!
However, the awnser will usualy be upgrade castle#1 to get level 4 creatures.
Then the question would be should I buy the level 4 creatures, or upgrade castle # 2?
If you can keep going, without buying creatures. THEN DO SO!
If not, by the required amount only, and work on upgrading castle #2
(I could go on and on.. but this is the basic foundation of the MOST BENIFICIAL Homm tactic)
Any opposition to this?
Mabey I could learn, but I doubt it ;P
(Giving the chance.. Mabey, just mabey I'm missing something/ I edited to emphasize the points so good luck =P)
(A secondary hero, is useful, but not required at the begginging, and will even put your first heroes growth at half, so why not wait until a bit later?
My suggestion here, tactics will help your resources, because creatures will be stronger and you wont *have* to recruit more.
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lord_crusader
Promising
Supreme Hero
UHU!! supreme!
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posted February 10, 2003 10:37 PM |
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I think you right in your tactic
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Celfious
Promising
Legendary Hero
From earth
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posted February 10, 2003 10:53 PM |
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Thanks.. I feel so aswell.
It's only the beggining though.
Mabey later I'll rant about the limitless matrix of skill selection, creature selection, and map travel..
Rank cordination, basic battle techniques, advanced techniques.. I'm still working on expert :]
Working on advanced map travel aswell! Sometimes difficult to evaluate the map, when my comp lags.
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Vortigern
Hired Hero
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posted February 10, 2003 11:37 PM |
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I don't usually stick to one plan, but here are some of the ones i've used.
Day1-Town hall, hire second hero, explore.
Day2-mage guild,
Day3-marketplace
Day4-blacksmith
Day5-City hall
Day6-Level one dwelling
Day7-Level two dwelling
Day8-secondary hero buys units, builds level three dwelling
Day9-4th dwelling
Day10-5th dwelling
Day11-wait for de money
Day12-see if i can build 6th.
Day13-buy citadel-
14-buy castle
15 and onward through week-buy out all creatures and save money for Capitol
I can tell you right now that it is very rare that you will raise lvl7 dudes to take castles in the first few weeks. I just select the best creatures from the town 6and under and raise hell.
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