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stargazer
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hero of order and life
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posted February 12, 2003 03:45 PM |
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an asylem to be feared
Level 1
Imp-flying mana steal
troglodyte-immune to blind
Level 2
Scarecrow-i got this from the necrop thread i just thought it best for the asylem but takes extra damage from fire base attacks
demon gargoyle-flying stoneskin
Level 3
Magog-same as homm3
cerberus-same as hommm3
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Nightmare-same as homm4
Level 4
Minotaur-same as homm4 but stronger
Beholder-flying spellcaster shooter 24 shots
Level 5
Effrent-same as homm4
medusa-same as homm4
Level 6
Devil-looks return from homm3 teleport summon demon gargoyles 150% to angels and fallen angels
Black Dragon- fire breath flying immune to all spells 150%to Gold Dragons
so what do you think any changes and help with my level 3 creature choice
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Celfious
Promising
Legendary Hero
From earth
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posted February 12, 2003 05:38 PM |
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Some changes in mind.. From your list, and new from mine.
I believe:
*level 1
Imps could use mass fear. *The more imps, the greater chance of instilling fear on attacking/defending stack for that action*
*level 1
Demon gargoyles They normaly have stone skin. Howvere, in defence their defence is trippled. Animation for gargoyles in defence, should statue like art form and apparently stone (color & texture change)
*level 2
Scarecrow These should recive extra damagae from fires based attacks, but they should have immunities from mind/life.
These should also have a fear skill. All level 1s should retreat (as attackless berserkers) for 2 rounds (or until the end of the next turn) after attacked by the scarecrow. The level 1s, can attack them, but fear witholds 50% damage, and they retreat for 2 rounds after scarecrow retaliates.
{hmm, I now see why you asked for change to level 3s. lol}
*Level 3~
Bring back Pit lords
Keep them similar to Homm3, but adjust stats. These should be "tanks" with ability to return (resurect from hell) all evil based alignments as demons.
Actualy, it's the soul- pit lords are returning. Dont let the physical change confuse you.
~*Extra level 2*~
Demons These should not be in town dwellings, but in map dwellings yes. They have no special ability, except extra morale effect.
Demons were once living beings. No matter the alignment, the beings were sent to hell for being evil (primarily not from good alignments) This is why pit lords return the evil souls from hell as demons
Extra morale effect.-not affecting nature, or might more than normal.
Evil routes them on, and good dislikes them.
*back to level 3
Cereberus
Make them are less *dobermine* looking. Their appearance was better in Homm3!
Theres a ton more to these guys!!
I’d add it here, but idea is to complex and huge to enter as part of a post, in part of a thread… Sorry
*Level 3
Minotour
I disagree about making them stronger! Their defence skill alone almost gives too much as level 3s, and they are not level 4 material.
Theres more, and limitless things I might add later
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stargazer
Famous Hero
hero of order and life
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posted February 13, 2003 01:59 PM |
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celfious did you read the necrop ideas
the scarecrow should only do extra damage to birds
and as for fear it should only go to the higher level creatures
sorry i forgot your name
but thats a pretty long list you got there mind making it into a town?
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stargazer
Famous Hero
hero of order and life
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posted February 13, 2003 03:27 PM |
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*Level 3
Minotour
I disagree about making them stronger! Their defence skill alone almost gives too much as level 3s, and they are not level 4 material.end qoute
compare them to the medusa in homm4
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When we are young
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Celfious
Promising
Legendary Hero
From earth
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posted February 13, 2003 03:53 PM |
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Actualy, even my idea of the scare crow would be non realistic (in the fantasy way).
Every bird in the game, is much smarter than the crows who think they are human farmers on guard.
What is frightning about scarecrows to birds with small mental capacity?
They think it's a human and will chase them away.
This says they shouldn't be chaos aligned.
If all these creatures will fight a black dragon, they will not fear a scarecrow =/
And the minotours.. Perhaps they have a lower attack skill, but their defence specialty is enough in itself to change out comes in battles.
Dude with the long list (i, kb, w, whtvr)
Each games different. If you posses some special ability.. I suggest you focus on a unique game, and not how you think Homm would be better.
A sequal, will usualy be similar enough for players to identify the series.
With what your lists, and thoughts would make is an evil WOG type of game..
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stargazer
Famous Hero
hero of order and life
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posted February 13, 2003 04:04 PM |
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i think they should be stronger in attack and less in defence a tad your right about each game being deffrent.
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When we are young
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Wondering what our dreams might be worth
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stargazer
Famous Hero
hero of order and life
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posted March 03, 2003 07:17 PM |
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update like all my other ones.
lv1 troglodyte and imp
lv2 demon gargoyle and scarecrow
lv3 cerberus and magog
lv4 nightmare and beholder
lv5 medusa and minotaur
lv6 pit lord and effrent
lv7 black dragon and devil
pit lords back raise fallen stack as demon gargoyle
magog same as homm3 beholder flyer spellcaster defrent looks. like in buffy. people with no eyes or eyes taken out.
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When we are young
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Neon
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 03, 2003 10:37 PM |
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How are you creating these lists? With a dice or a pendulum?
Nightmare in one class with the beholder? The nightmare weeker than a medusa? And what is that demon gargoyle? The gargoyles ARE demons putted on the buildings...
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stargazer
Famous Hero
hero of order and life
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posted March 04, 2003 03:20 PM |
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How are you creating these lists? With a dice or a pendulum?
Nightmare in one class with the beholder? The nightmare weeker than a medusa? And what is that demon gargoyle? The gargoyles ARE demons putted on the buildings...
of course the nightmare is weaker the screwed up making it stronger than minotaur thought id fix it.
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When we are young
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Wondering what our dreams might be worth
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Damacon_Ace
Famous Hero
Also known as Nobris Agni
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posted March 12, 2003 10:08 AM |
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How about this idea for an Asylum?
Level 1
Imp and Orc
Imps have magic leech and fly, while orcs throw axes with no melee penalty.
Level 2
Gargoyle and Cerebus
Gargoyles have Stone Skin and 50% magic resistance + fly, while Cerebri have no enemy retaliation and tri-attack
Level 3
Pit Lord or Ice Demon
Pit Lords have First Strike and Ice Demon Raise, while Ice Demons have freezing ability
Level 4
Venom Spawn or Efreet
Efreet have fire shield and fire attack while Venom spawn shoot poison
Level 5
Devil or Frenzied Gnasher
Devils gain no enemy retaliation in addition to the other H4 bonuses while Frenzied Gnashers have two attacks, magic immunity and berserk.
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Debowy
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posted March 15, 2003 08:20 AM |
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I think that the Asylum should keep only Asylum creatures NOT NECROPOLIS ones! I have edited my own town of Asylum. This time each creature could be upgraded to two styles of upgrades.
level 1
Trogoldyte
1: Infernal Trogoldyte
2: Frog Trogoldyte
level 2
Minotaur
1: War Minotaur
2: Minotaur Mage
level 3
Rulla (bedwian mithic creature
1: Banshi
2: Medusa
level 4
Basilisk Snake
1: Coakilisk
2: Snakeman (Lizardman)
level 5
Hydra
1: Cobra Hydra
2: Basilisk Hydra
level 6
Swamp Dragon
1: Rust Dragon
2: Black dragon
Not much but will do.
For questions reply!
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Debowy
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posted March 15, 2003 07:32 PM |
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Great Idea invented by unknown!
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My idea for creatures in h5,how do you think that?
Maybe h5 are entirely different from the previous game...
I think for every town there should be 15 creatures(or war machines).Every town has 5 levels of creatures,5 for level 1,4 for level 2,3 for level 3,2 for level 4,and 1 for level 5.How do you think that?Average week grwoth for each level may be 2 for level 5,4 for level 4,8 for lvel 3,16 for level 2 and 32 for level 1.If their dwellings are built,all of them can be recuited for a certain cost.
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4 4
3 3 3
2 2 2 2
1 1 1 1 1
One of level 1 can be upgrade to level 2
One of level 2 can be upgrade to level 3
One of level 3 can be upgrade to level 4
So actually they can be take as 12 kinds of creatures(war machines)
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I have edited a new creature list of this kind for the Asylum:
5:Black Dragon - flayr, (spell <Air Strike lvl 5>
4:Banshee - Ranged weapon, large target, (spell <Death Shout lvl 3>
4:Hydra - large target, duoble attaker
3:Medusa - fast mover (spell <Stone Glaze lvl 3>
3:Minotaur - fast mover, strong defance
3:Basilisk - Ranged weapon, (spell <Stone Glaze lvl 3>, egg brooter (helps producing more black dragons)
2:Rulla - spell caster <Fire bolt lvl 2> <Slow lvl 1> <Chaos shield>
2:Gargoyle - flayr, anti-magic
2 emon - Fire bolt shooter, increases imb groth
2:Evil eye - flayr, ranged weapon
1:Trogoldyte - every fifty give you one sulfur
1:Harpy - flayr, attaks and comes back to place before anyone attaks back
1:Thiefe - double attaker, steels and gives to your town income.
1:Imp - flayr, mana steeler
1 rc - Axe througher, shoots back at spell casters that curse him.
Cool ha?
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Michael
Adventuring Hero
Devil Slayer
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posted March 22, 2003 06:01 PM |
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No, no, no!
I don't think the Sylum should be mixed up with demonic creatures. Here's my idea:
level----creature-----cost-----spacial ability
lvl 1---Trogoldyte-----70g------------none
lvl 1------Rogue-------50g------------none
lvl 2----Gargoyle-----120g------------Magic Resistance
lvl 2----Centaure-----160g------------none
lvl 3---Lizardman-----230g------------none
lvl 3----Minotaur-----270g------------none
lvl 4-----Medusa------390g------------Spell Caster
lvl 4---Nightmare-----420g------------none
lvl 5----Basalisk-----500g------------stone glaze
lvl 5-----Wyvern------600g------------none
lvl 6-----Hydra-------1200g 4S--------multi attak
lvl 6----Black D------1500g 2S 2M-----none
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stargazer
Famous Hero
hero of order and life
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posted March 23, 2003 08:09 PM |
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No, no, no!
I don't think the Sylum should be mixed up with demonic creatures. Here's my idea:
level----creature-----cost-----spacial ability
lvl 1---Trogoldyte-----70g------------none
lvl 1------Rogue-------50g------------none
lvl 2----Gargoyle-----120g------------Magic Resistance
lvl 2----Centaure-----160g------------none
lvl 3---Lizardman-----230g------------none
lvl 3----Minotaur-----270g------------none
lvl 4-----Medusa------390g------------Spell Caster
lvl 4---Nightmare-----420g------------none
lvl 5----Basalisk-----500g------------stone glaze
lvl 5-----Wyvern------600g------------none
lvl 6-----Hydra-------1200g 4S--------multi attak
lvl 6----Black D------1500g 2S 2M-----none
need more speacails
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