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GrunanCross
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posted April 17, 2003 10:57 AM |
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How To Beat A Stronghold
I also did this on Fortress...But I would really like some you'r thoughts on the stronghold XL craghack...good spells....ect..worst case sec..
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Kuma
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u can type so much text in her
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posted April 17, 2003 01:18 PM |
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Deleted the other 2 tries u made to start this topic. I assume those were misclicks.
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AndiAngelsla...
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posted April 17, 2003 02:40 PM |
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Lets take dungeon as example, and lets assume you have about the same amount of troops as the stronghold dude, a few less blacks than ancients and a bunch more scorps than clops.
You have a overlord with some might stats, your tactic vs a stronghold always has to be: get mass haste and attack before Hack does, if you try to wait you will most certainly be crushed.
Use your drags breath if possible, he prolly doesnt expect you to attack right away so theres a chance you can use it.
Than in the best caste, throw your scorps on what the drags went and maybe be lucky and paralyze it.
Than you throw the rest in of course, and hope.
Just an example, strongholds weakness is the speed - but theres only 2 town where you can play defend: Tower, if you have Titans of course, and Rampart simply because they dont have the fast tanks to attack right away.
You need to expect a mass haste, so you need to crush stronghold before it crushes you and counter with a mass haste yourself.
Now forget this if you have implo or snow or if red orb is into play, thats fighting without much tactic than.
Resurrect vs large stronghold armies? Forget it, those mass spells prolly will destroy you faster than you can res.
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Lord_Woock
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posted April 17, 2003 03:04 PM |
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You need to expect a mass haste, so you need to crush stronghold before it crushes you and counter with a mass haste yourself.
I'd use mass slow instead, as I'd have a better speed advantage.
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AndiAngelsla...
Disgraceful
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posted April 17, 2003 03:30 PM |
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This is ecactly the noob answer i expected lol...didnt you read that he prolly has mass haste? do you know what happens if he mass hastes after you slowed him? He can even outwait YOU than and crush you 2 times wihtout you doing anything lol...geeeeeeeeeeeez
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Sir_Stiven
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posted April 17, 2003 03:37 PM |
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sometimes attack is the best defence... 
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Lord_Woock
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posted April 17, 2003 04:08 PM |
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Who ever said I'd slow him right away? Ofcourse I'd wait till he'd haste himself! I'm not that much of a n00b.
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Gothmog
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posted April 17, 2003 04:22 PM |
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Who ever said I'd slow him right away? Ofcourse I'd wait till he'd haste himself!
Humm, if you wait for Crag Hack to mass haste his troops ... by the time you are able to cast mass slow, the battle is pretty much over.
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Lord_Woock
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posted April 17, 2003 04:58 PM |
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No, because my Enchanters would cast mass haste on my troops lol.
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Yolk and God bless.
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lord_crusader
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UHU!! supreme!
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posted April 17, 2003 09:55 PM |
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No, because my Enchanters would cast mass haste on my troops lol.
This is not a campaign this is the real life 
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Sir_Stiven
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posted April 17, 2003 10:05 PM |
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No, because my Enchanters would cast mass haste on my troops lol.
This is not a campaign this is the real life
really? im quite sure that scorpicores and black drags and such doesnt exist in real life
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Apophis
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posted April 18, 2003 01:04 AM |
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Yes it does, you just have to look for them.
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grunancross
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King of the Underdark
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posted April 18, 2003 07:44 AM |
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i think that andi had the tactic i was looking for...i guess that dealing wit hack is tricky
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notmytohhandle
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posted April 22, 2003 05:11 AM |
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Lets take dungeon as example, and lets assume you have about the same amount of troops as the stronghold dude, a few less blacks than ancients and a bunch more scorps than clops.
You have a overlord with some might stats, your tactic vs a stronghold always has to be: get mass haste and attack before Hack does, if you try to wait you will most certainly be crushed.
Use your drags breath if possible, he prolly doesnt expect you to attack right away so theres a chance you can use it.
Than in the best caste, throw your scorps on what the drags went and maybe be lucky and paralyze it.
Than you throw the rest in of course, and hope.
Just an example, strongholds weakness is the speed - but theres only 2 town where you can play defend: Tower, if you have Titans of course, and Rampart simply because they dont have the fast tanks to attack right away.
You need to expect a mass haste, so you need to crush stronghold before it crushes you and counter with a mass haste yourself.
Now forget this if you have implo or snow or if red orb is into play, thats fighting without much tactic than.
Resurrect vs large stronghold armies? Forget it, those mass spells prolly will destroy you faster than you can res.
andis tactic is a good one..
personally i like the blind behemoth more. without behemes stronghold is a piece of cake and u can also wait with both scorps and dragons using this tactic and let them do their stuff at end of round.. opp will prolly dispell leaving him to be eaten up the first round. if he haste no bigge without behems... if he slowes u can still use andis tactic round 2(haste yrself since u go first with blacks ..)
blind is strongholds nightmare.
/Archie
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Aculias
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posted April 22, 2003 06:01 AM |
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Thats why you i didnt reply here lol, I couldnt find any arguments but to slow them the heck down & try to do some cheap tactics on them or blind lol.
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Warlock
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posted April 22, 2003 03:56 PM |
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I have just one question: when i usually play behems my hero is Hack or Dessa (sometimes both ), and my strategy is pretty simple but in my opinion unstopable: instead goblins I take angels from conservatories than i upgrade them. How would u stop me? Is it possible without great magic skills ( Dessa is a great spell-caster!)? My opinion is simple-stronghold has great troops (also cheap) but the problem is their speed. With angels( archangels) it's just a matter of time.
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Kuma
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posted April 23, 2003 12:31 PM |
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Yeah I also always upgrade my angels.
I do that with the ever-available 'Angel-upgrader'
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grunancross
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King of the Underdark
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posted April 23, 2003 12:35 PM |
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All-In-All the Stronghold is very good town...
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