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Tef
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posted February 03, 2004 09:35 PM |
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Gentlemen ... Solmyr gets an early boost from chain ... and throws it well ... but thats not all he is ... he has no equal amonst magicians .. in my opinion
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Lord_Woock
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posted February 03, 2004 09:55 PM |
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And exactly how many times will he be able to cast his uberspell without refills (visit in mage guild or magic well)? Having to constantly run back to replenish your mana severely limits expansive abilities.
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Khaelo
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Underwater
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posted February 04, 2004 12:56 AM |
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Neela is first choice for Necro...Well those heroes support the specialities of those towns best.
Neela is a top notch hero in most cases, but how does she support the Necropolis' specialty best? She's a Necromancy-less Alchemist, so she can't contribute to Necro's all-mighty skeleton stack! (unless you just happen to have a Necromancy witch hut on your front doorstep) I'm not an online player; is Necro still a viable town choice if one does not collect massive numbers of skeletons? Is that what is meant by "no Necro" -- you can play the Necropolis town as long as you use only non-native heroes? Vampires and liches are pretty cool units, but I have no idea if they can carry the town in a multiplayer game.
Edit: Argh, my brain is fried. Corrected spelling of "skeleton" and clarified message.
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angelito
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posted February 04, 2004 07:43 AM |
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launch heroes 3 angelito and choose that Monere and you will see.
Now Vycka, only for you i started a random map yesterday 
I´ve chosen conflux and picked Monere.
So i started the game and on first day i double-clicked my main-hero to look at his stats.....and what did i see?
Basic logistics and basic offense....
So i think there´s somehting wrong with your heroes version.....or with your eyes...
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angelito
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posted February 04, 2004 08:52 AM |
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If Fortress already has a great defense (which i know it does), wouldn't youi want a hero with offense maybe? or some form of attack like ballista?
If you have a guy with more than 2 meters of height, try to teach him basketball to take profit of his advantage. Don´t try to make him a jockey.....
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Vycka1234
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posted February 04, 2004 09:12 AM |
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now thats strange angelito cuz i saw it i could upload a screenshot but i dont know how so i will not bother.BTW i have WoG 3.57final.SO maybe smth with that.
Edit: he had advanced offence nothing more
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doomnezeu
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posted February 04, 2004 09:43 AM |
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Monere has basic offence and basic logistics at the beginning of a map, but this does not really matter. I played some time ago a map that came with Wog, Oceania, i i remember corectlly, and started with stronghold - Gurnisson. He had the following skills at the beginning: Basic Earth Magic and basic artillery. You can choose there any town type, any hero you want (even gelu, dracon and stuff), so this cannot a premade carracter set. In any other maps, Gurnisson starts off with basic offence and basic artillery.
Funny, isn't it?
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angelito
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posted February 04, 2004 11:31 AM |
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Monere has basic offence and basic logistics at the beginning of a map, but this does not really matter. I played some time ago a map that came with Wog, Oceania, i i remember corectlly, and started with stronghold - Gurnisson. He had the following skills at the beginning: Basic Earth Magic and basic artillery. You can choose there any town type, any hero you want (even gelu, dracon and stuff), so this cannot a premade carracter set. In any other maps, Gurnisson starts off with basic offence and basic artillery.
Funny, isn't it?
So in WoG the skills of the heroes are a little bit different than in the original versions (AB or SoD), hmmm?
Gurnisson is a barbarian, and normaly NO stronghold hero starts with a magic skill.......?????
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KingofMinota...
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posted February 04, 2004 06:24 PM |
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even heroes that are spellcasters usually don't get magics as a starting skill. You have to lvl to get them.
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Lord_Woock
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posted February 04, 2004 06:33 PM |
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I thought the Conflux magic heroes did? (or at least some of them)
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KingofMinota...
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posted February 04, 2004 06:38 PM |
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I don't know. I meant in RoE no1 starts with magic, but in AB they could have changed it.
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angelito
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posted February 04, 2004 06:50 PM |
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I thought the Conflux magic heroes did? (or at least some of them)
Yes you´re right. In AB and in SoD every elemtalist starts with basic wisdom and basic of one magic skill.
No other heroes have a magic skill at the beginning.....
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KingofMinota...
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posted February 04, 2004 06:51 PM |
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oh thats pretty cool. I will have to take that into consideration. But i am sure nobody in RoE does.
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angelito
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posted February 04, 2004 06:57 PM |
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oh thats pretty cool. I will have to take that into consideration. But i am sure nobody in RoE does.
Sure, ´coz there´s no conflux in RoE....
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KingofMinota...
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posted February 04, 2004 07:02 PM |
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hehe that's very true.
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Lord_Woock
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posted February 05, 2004 10:49 PM |
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And then there's that Fortress lady from the Playing with fire campaign (AB).
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Greek_god_su...
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Bringer Of Light
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posted February 06, 2004 09:55 PM |
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best hero
Have said this before and gonna say it again:
Best is the Dace
then comes Galthran, Vey, Fafner, Mullich, Vokial, Theodorus and Nymus.
As you see, I very much like heroes with creature specialty(except Sir Mullich)... Actually, I select other kind of heroes very seldom and have very little knowledge of them. If somebody could tell me what is so good at them, maybe I would play with them more often?
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QBrick
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posted February 06, 2004 10:27 PM |
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Have said this before and gonna say it again:
As you see, I very much like heroes with creature specialty(except Sir Mullich)... Actually, I select other kind of heroes very seldom and have very little knowledge of them.
My question may sound a bit stupid, but where is the advantage of specializing in a creature stack, that more and more becomes a minority in your army given, that you make progress and conquer other towns (maybe with the exception of Galthran, who's skeletons emerge like a natural disaster)?
Wouldn't it be better to specialize in really useful skills like offence, resistance or armor etc., which helps every single stack?
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Greek_god_su...
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Bringer Of Light
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posted February 06, 2004 11:07 PM |
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My question may sound a bit stupid, but where is the advantage of specializing in a creature stack, that more and more becomes a minority in your army given, that you make progress and conquer other towns (maybe with the exception of Galthran, who's skeletons emerge like a natural disaster)?
Wouldn't it be better to specialize in really useful skills like offence, resistance or armor etc., which helps every single stack?
Good point of view. It just fits in my style of playing.
Nowadays I build my army lying on my current specialty creature and just 2-3 types of other monsters, so that they get turns faster and I can use spells more often. With Dace it means there is only minotaurs and medusas, and maybe later black dragons. In that situation there is no bigger need of skill bonuses cause of the small amount of stacks
they would affect.
Also, I get their dwellings + the castle built at week1, and that really helps at the beginning of game.
Btw, I never lose any of my specialty creatures: one minotaur out from hundred is a big sin for dace.. They never become a minority.
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Khaelo
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posted February 07, 2004 10:12 PM |
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why pick creature specialists:
First-level creature specialists come with bunches and bunches of said critters, so they're good starters. They also start giving bonuses very early as they level up, and they keep the first-levels in play longer.
Some of the others are more questionable. For example, why chose Fafner for his creature specialty? McGenies don't get into fist-fights until the fourth round, and they're not good tanks, especially since there are much better nagas running around. Granted, I pick Charna on a regular basis. But it's because of sentimental reasons, not because her special's any good -- wraiths don't steal any more spellpoints because Charna's commanding them, alas. Same with Moandor, whose special isn't bad, but his Learning sucks (15 more exp from a learning stone! wahoo!).
I'm still wondering why Neela the Alchemist is the best hero for Necropolis.
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