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posted August 30, 2004 04:14 AM |
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So the Olympics are over
The scores are tallied, the races run......
It was an interesting series of events.
I think that each and every participant is worthy of commendation. They all deserve special recognition aside from the standard 'Gold, Silver, Bronze' labelling that goes to the highest achievers.
I also think there were a few instances of atheletes being 'robbed' of the rewards they earned and justly deserved, but that's not for me to decide.
Still, for what it's worth, here's a 'Job Well Done' to each and every one of them!
So.........what are your thoughts?
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posted August 30, 2004 05:22 AM |
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I think that each and every participant is worthy of commendation.
Well, you dont really think "each and every", do u? At least not our beloved shooting contestant, Divna Pesic, who came in 44... out of 44 contestants. She slept on the gun for 6 minutes before she took the first shot, and then she ran out of time. Some winning strategy! I wonder if she thought she'd confuse others with that and they'd resign immediately.
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posted August 30, 2004 05:29 AM |
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I also think there were a few instances of atheletes being 'robbed' of the rewards they earned and justly deserved, but that's not for me to decide.
I would have to agree. Did you see the long distance running race, when some angry protestor tackled a runner (Brazil I think). The runner got broze(I think), but if he didn't get tackled he would have gotten gold.
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posted August 30, 2004 05:35 AM |
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Yes, I do mean 'each and every'.
I don't know how hard it is for an athelete to make the Olympic team in other countries, but it's hard as hell for an american athelete to make the team. The competition is unbelievable. I suspect it's much the same elsewhere.......
That alone [making the team and having the honor of representing your homeland], IMO (and it's just MO), is enough to qualify an individual for at least a special commendation/bit-of-praise regardless of how that person's performance in the Games places them. (Unfair play, drugs, dishonor, etc not considered.)
Heck, who knows.......perhaps it was simply physical exhaustion from training a bit too diligently???
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posted August 30, 2004 08:01 AM |
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I also think there were a few instances of atheletes being 'robbed' of the rewards they earned and justly deserved, but that's not for me to decide.
I would have to agree. Did you see the long distance running race, when some angry protestor tackled a runner (Brazil I think). The runner got broze(I think), but if he didn't get tackled he would have gotten gold.
Yeah, I saw that on the news this morning and that disgusted me...
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posted August 30, 2004 10:55 AM |
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The only one I'm not proud of is Paula Radcliffe. We chose her to represent the country, and quitting in my mind does not do that effectively.
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posted August 30, 2004 11:03 AM |
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The judging needs to be more consistant... See the bit with the Russian gymnist? His routine kicks serious ass, yet he got a lower score than an American who did a rather average routine (I think it led to a mass protest in the spectator stands which halted competition for a few minutes).
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posted August 30, 2004 11:14 AM |
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Australia came fourth overall in medal count, yeah!! 
If there was a fourth place medal, Australia would have got i think 25 of them or something, heard it on tv, more then any other country, but oh well!
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posted August 30, 2004 11:28 AM |
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AUSTRALIA SHOULD HAVE WON.
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posted August 30, 2004 11:31 AM |
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10th is a good position for Britain
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posted August 30, 2004 11:48 AM |
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what did you guys think about the Australian rower girl who in the 8 skulls or whatever it is called gave up and stopped rowing, costing the team any medal (and they were in third place)?
I think it is disgraceful, she and those other 7 girls have been training for that event for the last four years, and on the most important race she decides its all too hard. An absolute disgrace. 
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posted August 30, 2004 11:50 AM |
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Well the olympics are great...these were especialy except for the fact that we were cheated from a gold medal, but that's not what matters...but i wish that they lasted for four years, but... now let's look forward to Torino
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posted August 30, 2004 12:05 PM |
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what did you guys think about the Australian rower girl who in the 8 skulls or whatever it is called gave up and stopped rowing, costing the team any medal (and they were in third place)?
I think it is disgraceful, she and those other 7 girls have been training for that event for the last four years, and on the most important race she decides its all too hard. An absolute disgrace.
Yes its a shame that Sally Robins gave up close to the ending stages of the race... but its more of a shame that the other rowers threatened to throw her off the boat... They're just one big dysfunctional family..
All in all, Australia did great for a country with a population of 20,173,424
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posted August 30, 2004 03:16 PM |
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The olympics isnt about who won or lost or who gave up or got cheated out of a win really.. It's about finding something that we can all agree on and enjoy for just a few days every 4th year - in an environment of peace. It's our proof that mankind can put aside their differences and be friends, if just the proper form of things come to pass.
I dont like sports, but I like the olympics. I dont like IOK tho, I suspect theyre pretty corrupt, and I don't like their weak judgements about the guys that got cheated out of their medals (that gymnast that got a wrongful penalty transfer and all the judges got suspended, and the tackled long distance runner). They should have given the gold to those guys, or at least made 2 more golds for them, because that was all IOKs fault (bad judges and no guards on the long distance run). Anyway peace out! 
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posted August 30, 2004 09:51 PM |
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The only one I'm not proud of is Paula Radcliffe. We chose her to represent the country, and quitting in my mind does not do that effectively.
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posted August 31, 2004 02:38 AM |
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The only one I'm not proud of is Paula Radcliffe. We chose her to represent the country, and quitting in my mind does not do that effectively.
then you try and run a marathon under those heat circumstances, you wouldnt even last 100metres...make that 10metres 
Just letting that female marathon start was a toss, there should be a heatlimit.
afterall it was a english dude who impressed me the most, that friggin khan boxer of yours were great.
Except that nothing particular were that unexpected, most of the things were just as predictable as that MC accident to the two greece tossers.
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posted August 31, 2004 07:47 AM |
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I think what makes the Olympics different from other international competitions is the way it's promoted with all the peace and international understanding, etc. Just the size of it and the number of athletes from all around the world must be awesome for the competitors.
My guess is that, with most of the athletes, their only regret isn't that they didn't win, but that they didn't have enough time to see the sites, socialize with others, etc. I'm sure a lot of them make friends and regret leaving them behind. I know in past Olympics, some of them became lifelong friends.
Sure there were controversies, but there were thousands of events. There is bound to be controversies and errors, but that shouldn't take away from all the others that went smoothly.
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posted August 31, 2004 10:34 AM |
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then you try and run a marathon under those heat circumstances, you wouldnt even last 100metres...make that 10metres
Firstly, she said herself that she dropped out mainly not because of the heat, but because she mentally knew she was not going to win. She later competed in the 10,000 in the evening and dropped out of that too, for the same reasons also. Secondly, the heat affected all the runners in the race, and many of those finished without complaint or giving up because they couldn't win, one of them was even British, she didn't win, but she didn't give up. If Paula have given up because she physically could not go further then fair enough, but it wasn't that. When our athletes go out to the olympics they represent this country, and to have one of ours give up because she felt it was beneath her to finish outside the medals, well lets just say she lost a lot of respect here for it and rightly so. I do agree the timing of the run was bad, but even so, that was not the deciding factor.
My state of health or otherwise has nothing to do with it, that's like saying that because you can't play professional football for Newcastle you have no right to criticise Liverpool
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posted August 31, 2004 01:51 PM |
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lol
off course it was a deciding factor, heat is always a deciding factor when it is to the extreme. Your body gets dehydrated faster. Runners that are used to this now what to prepare for, runners like radcliff doesnt.
Meaning an extra element comes into the race, and if you cant cope with it you will do as radcliff did and quit.
And how hollow are you? If she had blamed the heat, do you honestly would have had higher thoughts of her? A person that represents your country who blames the heat for losing? She took it the correct way and took the blame on her own seen from that prospect, so that should hardly give tossers like yourself any right to critise her.
That would be like me telling you should go hide some place for writing such stupid arguments her while representing your country
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posted August 31, 2004 02:07 PM |
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Hmm...
No I wouldn't think higher of her if she blamed the heat, I said specifically she should have carried on until she could not physically have gone further. In both races she gave up because she felt that mentally could not go further. I don't consider that a very valid reason for giving up. She herself admitted that she gave up because of not being able to win any more in both races, heat did not seem to enter into her reasoning whatsoever. You can argue the heat problem, but at the end of the day it wasn't the deciding factor to her, and as highly as you no doubt think of your opinions, I think I'll take her excuse as being genuine over your assumptions. Note that I never said that it was not important, just not what made her quit, that is totally different, and that is what I am discussing, what her reasons for stopping where.
The only way I'd have thought highly of her is if she couldn't have continued having given it her best shot. She could have continued, she as much as admitted that, therefore she did not give it her best shot. As for my right, I will say what I like about the subject, that happens to be what a forum is for. And I don't need to be an olympian to express my opinion, just as I pointed out to you, you don't need to be a footballer to talk about or criticise professional footballers, Consis and Bort don't need to be politicians to express their opinions of Bush and Kerry. I would have thought that was basic common sense that people have a right to say what they feel and think on a topic.
I'll put it this way, a unheard of British female runner in the marathon who was suprised to have even been picked went out there and finished the race. She didn't win, she didn't even come close, but in the same conditions, the same heat, with less training and facilities in recent years, but she finished. Radcliffe went out and quit because she couldn't win or get a medal. I know which I respect more out of those two.
And please don't resort to childish name-calling Stiven, I would have thought it was beneath you. Clearly I was mistaken, perhaps things here never move on, I do intend to though. If you're planning on making another attempt to insult my intelligence like the last one then I wouldn't imagine you'd get an answer.
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