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posted February 01, 2005 04:22 AM |
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Ah yes, some day... i'll be there. 
btw, the first two pics on page 1, are from cuba tambien.
Here's some more Comandante Che Guevara music for your socialist ears, comrades.
You have "Hasta Siempre", a really popular Latino song all over South America. There are two versions of the same song:
version 1 (more defined and energetic) performed by "Motives"
version 2 (guitar solo style) by George Dalaras
And you have Cohiba by Daniele Silvestri
Enjoy! Good stuff. 
(oh, btw, to upload songs, you can trick this site (http://1asphost.com/) like you're uploading .txt files, and you got it)
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posted February 01, 2005 09:46 AM |
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I wish to join.
Oh by the way, I have marx on my shirt.
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posted February 01, 2005 08:36 PM |
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Engels:
"Have these gentlemen (the anti-authoritarians) ever seen a revolution? A revolution is undoubtedly one of the most authhoritarian thing in existance. It's an action where one part of the population forces its will upon the other part through the use of guns, bayonettes, and cannons - authoritarian means, if such things can be said to excist at all. And if the victorious part doesn't want to have fought to no use, it must secure and preserve its dominion through the help of the fear their weapons brings to the reactionaries. Would the Parisian Commune have lasted even a single day if they had not applied the authority of the armed people upon the bourgeoisie? Should we not rather critizise them for not applying it to a necessary degree?"
(Lenin: Collective Works, volume 8.)
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posted February 02, 2005 04:20 AM |
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playing devil's advocate here...
"In order to come into power they threw overboard all their democratic principles. In order to keep themselves in power they have had to let their Socialist princpiles go the way of the democratic. They have maintained themselves as individuals; but they have sacrificed their principles, and have proved themselves to be thorough-going opportunists."
Karl Kautsky, "Terrorism and Communism"
Masses salute comrade IYY for the music he has benevolently shared.
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posted February 02, 2005 04:24 AM |
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I like that T-shirt, comrade TitaniumAlloy. Since that valuable posession is urs, make sure you put it to its best use, so that comrade Marx wont be mad. Drown it in pure worker's labour sweat. And never wash it.
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posted February 02, 2005 11:31 PM |
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Quote:
playing devil's advocate here...
"In order to come into power they threw overboard all their democratic principles. In order to keep themselves in power they have had to let their Socialist princpiles go the way of the democratic. They have maintained themselves as individuals; but they have sacrificed their principles, and have proved themselves to be thorough-going opportunists."
Karl Kautsky, "Terrorism and Communism"
Ah, such an eloquent answer. I always loved Kautsky and that other fellow (Ber-something?). Not a violent revolution; that sounds much better. But can it be accomplish? Does not the social democrats (or menscheviks) take the risk of being corrupted by the system their boschevik brethern wanted to destroy? Isn't it the menscheviks who are leading Europe's headlong race into privatization and free trade?
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- Grenn, A Storm of Swords.
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posted February 03, 2005 02:11 AM |
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I suppose you meant Bernstein, comrade terje. He's alright in my book.
And the mensheviks are not the same with social-democrats. First, you know, the name means "those in minority", and even though ideologically they might have appeared to be social-democratic, in practice they pursued a burgeois policy along with the rest of the government and brought little change to the troubled Russian society.
And if we're talking present social-democrats then I agree, they've gone far off their initial principles. Not really too deep into stinky liberal waters, but what concenrs me is that they're not doing any efforts to get out from there.
The songs comrade iyy provided are:
1. ????
2. Those were the days - Leningrad cowboys
3. Yellow Submarine - Leningrad cowboys
4. Soviet anthem 
5. Back in the USSR - Leningrad cowboys
6. Kalinka - Leningrad cowboys (u all know this one)
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posted February 03, 2005 04:14 PM |
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Yes! Bernstein it was! 
Some more goodie quotes:
"Money is the alienated essence of Man's life and labour, and this alienated essence dominates him as he worships it." - K. Marx
"The ruling ideas are the rulers' ideas." - K. Marx
If you apply that last one to the modern world, you get some pretty interesting results, considering democracy and human rights... 
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- Grenn, A Storm of Swords.
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posted February 04, 2005 02:11 AM |
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That site is amazing! I guess there's no more need to post Soviet songs. Resort to Cuban, comrades! (at least until comrade iyy finds a cuban site alike the soviet one )
There's also an enormous gallery of posters from the Soviet era, presenting the propaganda machinery of the time. Quite a useful resource for any comrade studying history, plitical science, journlism etc.
Fine samples:
Knowledge will break the chains of slavery
(too bad we dont see one of these today  )
Hitler and his general
American humanitarian aid LOL
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posted February 04, 2005 06:54 AM |
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Nice site!
These are from a different site, but similar theme.
Capital as the source of all evil
Tsar, Priest, Rich man
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posted February 07, 2005 02:16 PM |
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I just thought you guys should know that the dudes over in the Counter-revolutionary Lounge are planning on egging the collectively owned cars in your proletarian parking lot.
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posted February 07, 2005 07:12 PM |
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Isn't it just typical?
Once they see something that isn't owned by an individual, they have to begin to extrapropriate it.
Well, good thing we don't use cars then. Bicycles suffice to us socialists, who don't have to rush off to make sure we don't lose any of the profits our slaves have produced for us...
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- Grenn, A Storm of Swords.
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posted February 08, 2005 03:42 AM |
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Okay, everybody, Musica de Kuba, lo que te prometio.
Its from the Buena Vista Social(ist) Club, a sound soooo fitting for this place.
Dos Gardenias by Ibrahim Ferrer (if i'm correct, according to his voice)
Chan Chan - Ahh, best song ever made. One of my all time favourites.
Pueblo Nuevo - a nice urban-style song. just to keep the piano in the corner over there busy.
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posted February 08, 2005 10:05 PM |
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Not really communist in any way special, but I still think this song represents what I expects and craves from a future socialist society:
Imagine
Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...
Imagine there's no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...
Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...
You may say Im a dreamer,
but Im not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one.
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- Grenn, A Storm of Swords.
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posted February 09, 2005 02:52 AM |
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Hsss, of course its communist. It only lacks the word.
No posessions, no religion, no hunger, no nations.. this song screams communism.
One of my favourite lyrics, seriously.
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posted February 09, 2005 08:36 PM |
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Yeah, mine too. I just heard their the Beatles' "Revolution 1", where they diss Maoists That was fun
Maoists are almost as stupid as Stalinists, in my book...
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Exactly the same as Stalinists, actually. The only difference is that there is a significant amount of Maoists, while Stalinists are nearly extinct.
I live in Toronto so I get to see a lot of chinese people, and at the middle of our chinatown, every single store carries copies of the so called "Little Red Book", statues, keychains and photographs of Mao. You won't see that in Russia, that's for sure.
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posted February 10, 2005 09:42 PM |
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Heh, that sounds like the way it is in he History Departmant of my university
It's smacking full of maoists from the 70's, who for some reason got tired of their self-proletarization projects, and went back to the safe life as an academic...
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