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HeymlicH
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posted January 20, 2007 01:51 PM |
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FYI: I visited huts 500 times and necro didn't show up once. I know for sure I've seen it in games, but the times I remember I was playing WOG which may be different.
If a hut is placed on a map necro and leadership are desabled by default. A default hut will never give these skills. To enable these skills for a hut it needs to be customized in the map editor. I have no idea if it can be done for random maps.
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Jkwo
Hired Hero
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posted January 22, 2007 12:30 AM |
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Neither the Medusa Queen's or Greater Basilisk's stone gazes work on Trogs, although the MG's death stare does.
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Yanzhangcan
Known Hero
*Dance*
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posted January 22, 2007 06:03 AM |
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A cloned phoenix can't be reborn.
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SAG
Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
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posted January 23, 2007 04:13 PM |
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obvious thing, i suppose many people know it  :
on random maps in Witch hut never appear following skills: Armorer, Artillery, Earth, FirstAid, Intelligence, Learning, Navigation, Necro, Offence, Resistence, Scholar, Sorcery, Tactics, Water
Can be found and may be useful: Archery, Logistics, Wisdom, Air.
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Jkwo
Hired Hero
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posted January 23, 2007 08:28 PM |
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obvious thing, i suppose many people know it :
on random maps in Witch hut never appear following skills: Armorer, Artillery, Earth, FirstAid, Intelligence, Learning, Navigation, Necro, Offence, Resistence, Scholar, Sorcery, Tactics, Water
Can be found and may be useful: Archery, Logistics, Wisdom, Air.
I'm pretty sure leadership and necro are the only ones..
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted January 23, 2007 08:34 PM |
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Edited by angelito at 22:18, 23 Jan 2007.
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SAG is right. Just open the editor, place a witch hut and then check properties. There u can see what possible skills are marked.
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Binabik
Responsible
Legendary Hero
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posted January 23, 2007 09:19 PM |
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My experience and map editor both agree with Jkwo on this one.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted January 23, 2007 10:17 PM |
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Was explained wrong from my side.
Create a random map through your game.
When done, go to your "random_maps" folder and look for that map. If u doubleclick the map now, it opens with the editor. Now look for a witch hut. Check the properties then....
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kallen
Known Hero
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posted January 23, 2007 11:56 PM |
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Witch hut on random maps has: Leadership, luck, diplomacy, logistics, air magic, misticism, wisdom, fire magic, ballistics, pathfinding, archery, eagle eye, scouting and estates.
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From the beginnin' to end Losers lose, winners win This is real, we ain't got to pretend The cold world that we in Is full of pressure and pain I thought it would chane
But its stayin' the same
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Ecoris
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted January 24, 2007 02:33 PM |
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Are you sure this is not due to different templates?
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted January 24, 2007 03:19 PM |
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You can't define the properties of any obstacles in RMG.txt files. At least not to my knowledge.
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Ecoris
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted January 24, 2007 03:32 PM |
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Edited by Ecoris at 15:35, 24 Jan 2007.
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Ok. Could it be a matter of versions then?
I've got H3 complete and I see the following skills in my map editor with a witch hut on a random map:
Air Magic
Archery
Ballistics
Diplomacy
Eagle Eye
Estates
Fire Magic
Leadership
Logistics
Luck
Mysticism
Pathfinding
Scouting
Wisdom
Edit: The same as Jkwo
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted January 24, 2007 03:55 PM |
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No, Jkwo said "Necro and leadership are the only ones". He quoted SAGs post...which included about the same skills as yours.
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Ecoris
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted January 24, 2007 04:30 PM |
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Edited by Ecoris at 16:31, 24 Jan 2007.
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Yes, my bad. I get the same as Kallen and SAG.
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Jkwo
Hired Hero
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posted January 25, 2007 05:40 AM |
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Edited by Jkwo at 05:41, 25 Jan 2007.
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Yeah, my mistake. I just didn't read carefully enough.. didn't notice he was talking about randoms.
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Yanzhangcan
Known Hero
*Dance*
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posted January 25, 2007 08:49 AM |
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Think about the logic: A sacred phoenix can be reborn once with 100% certainty. A clone dies but does not get reborn. This makes no sense as other cloned spellcasters can cast spells too (Cloned pit lord can ressurect demons) In fact, this ability is totally negated by the game.
Also, I was fighting the AI and I had an arch devil and a catapult with expert ballistics. The enemy was a fortress with one skeleton. I decided to wait until the next turn so I could toy with it. I fired at the gate and it died, but the after match showed no defeated opponents. It's not in the manual, and does not make sense.  But it was hilarious.
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SAG
Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
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posted January 25, 2007 09:47 AM |
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Edited by SAG at 10:03, 25 Jan 2007.
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clones do not die, they disappear. Phoenix's special is to re-birth from corpse. No corpse = no rebirth, it's simple.
regarding my previous post. i provided complete list of skills that never appear and incomplete list were i mentioned only useful skills from my perspective...of course sometimes Fire magic or Pathfinding is useful, but not often. Complete list was posted by Kallen.
on fixed maps default setting is "no necro/leadership" in Witch Hut, however it can be changed by mapmaker. On random maps it's impossible to change Witch hut properties by txt settings (neither rmg.txt nor any other). Only possible way is to change it in WOG-based add-on.
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kallen
Known Hero
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posted January 25, 2007 11:15 PM |
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Fire Magic with: Blind, Curse, Berserk, Frenzy and Armageddon spells is very powerfull  IMHO.
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From the beginnin' to end Losers lose, winners win This is real, we ain't got to pretend The cold world that we in Is full of pressure and pain I thought it would chane
But its stayin' the same
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Evil_Warrior
Famous Hero
Duke of Demon
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posted January 26, 2007 08:42 AM |
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Efreet Sultans Fire Shield will STILL retaliate against creatures with spell immunity like Black Dragons and Magic Elementals.
But, the Fire Shield will NOT retaliate against creatures with FIRE Spell immunity only, like Phoenixes, Energy Elems, and Efreets themselves.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted January 26, 2007 01:39 PM |
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Fire shield is a spell, so u can't cast it ON Black dragons. Its effect however is NOT a spell, so black dragons can get effected.
The effect of a fire shield is fire damage, Phoenixes and Sultans are completely immun to fire, so they don't get effected at all.
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