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Preserver
Preserver


Promising
Famous Hero
Elemental Druid
posted September 12, 2001 02:39 PM

Forge or Sea Town...

I must say that I like both ideas, but the problem with the Sea Town would be it can only be placed on water (or near water), while the Stronghold are placed almost anywere... The Forge Town will make too many heroes players angry because of the mechanical theme (but not bad creatures at all Lichie_Lich). I really don't know what to mean...

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Wyvern
Wyvern


Promising
Famous Hero
posted September 12, 2001 07:33 PM

What about a town that can be placed both on land and sea? It can have walking and swimming units... and no mage guild - maybe something like Sea Training Guild instead!?

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Dragonhunter
Dragonhunter


Adventuring Hero
Anybody got a Band-aid
posted September 12, 2001 08:15 PM

I kind of like the idea of a mech. town, (for lack of a better word) and I mean like a bunch of stuff made by Gnomes! Fancy Crossbows, flying machines etc. These I could understand in this type of setting, but not any "hi-tech" weapons and so on.

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Promising
Famous Hero
Elemental Druid
posted September 12, 2001 08:43 PM

Okay...

Then which of the two will fit in best in addition to my five towns? (I may have asked this question before, but now I want a straight answer!)

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Saruman
Saruman


Famous Hero
On academic leave
posted September 12, 2001 11:51 PM

Okay, time to sort this out. Technology does not belong in Heroes. If it is set in a "Swords and Sorcery" type of game, then it should stay that way. Imagine what would happen if Dungeons and Dragons became high-tech based! I know that you CAN make a futurestic campaign in D&D, but it can't be based on that. A Forge town wouldn't make the game technology-based, I know, but it wouldn't fit in. Imagine a robot at Level 1 with a defence skill of 20! At least that's what a robot would be like. Now, Lichie_Lich, I know I didn't read your post propoly, sorry, but mechanical automatons in a medeval (Excuse the spelling error) fantasy would be stupid. 3DO made a BIIIIIIIG mistake by calling golems "mechanical". They are NOT mechanical. They are MAGICAL. There IS a difference. If a Forge with REAL mechanics appears in HOMM 4's expansion, imagine what HOMM 5 would be like! Robots all over the place, and Archangels with pitiful swords trying to restore peace by attemping to destroy robots with lasers that could easily shoot through them! The answer to the question "Forge Town or not?" is NO! The Sea Town DOESN'T have to be included, but the Forge cannot if it uses technology.
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LordPaul
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Promising
Famous Hero
Crazy Bat Guy.
posted September 15, 2001 11:32 PM


Nah, 3do wouldn't try the Tech stuff again.  The Golemn Dragon was very gutsy of them.  

I'm starting to think that the expansion pack will just be more choices per level.  Like instead of choosing between Medusa and Minotuar, it would be Medusa/Minotuar/Chimera for the expansion pack.  At least, that would be my bet!


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Saruman
Saruman


Famous Hero
On academic leave
posted September 16, 2001 02:36 AM

It would be nice to have more choice of what creatures you can get.
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Lichie_Lich
Lichie_Lich


Hired Hero
posted September 16, 2001 04:07 AM

again...

Okay...lemme tell you this: my forge town is not a futuristic town!!! No cyborgs. No missiles. No lasers. Only some gnome with a blunderbuss and a Wiz of Oz-esque Tin man and Talos from Jason and the Argonauts!!! No technology!!! It's called "artificial" magic as opposed to "nature" magic!!! Come to think about it: Life vs. Death. Order vs. Chaos. Nature vs. ???? Artificial of course!!!

The story is about some gnomes that live in a faraway and isolated woodlands. They're so isolated that they started to develop their own "kingdom" and since they live in woodlands they are too small to chop down huge trees and they started to create golems made of tin, the tin men, and some lumbering machine that is the automatons. The tin men and automatons made the gnomes' woodwork easier. Then the gnomes also created some war machines to protect their woodlands. They build some cannons, flying machines, and even asked Hephaestus, the god of steelworks, to aid them. Hephaestus allow them to build Talos. The preserve community hated the gnomes that they burt lots of their woodlands and chopped too much trees. From there, the preserve town and the forge are always warring.

Yep that's my story. No forgotten alien technology. No futuristec crap. FULL STOP.

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ThE_HyDrA
ThE_HyDrA


Admirable
Famous Hero
The Leader of all Hydras
posted September 16, 2001 06:41 AM

Excellent ideas, Preserver! Don't know about the Liontaur though!
And yes, i agree totally with Lichie_Lich, no futuristic stuff!! It wrecks the whole fantasy aspect!!!!!
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Gerdash
Gerdash


Responsible
Famous Hero
from the Animated Peace
posted September 16, 2001 09:36 AM
Edited By: Gerdash on 16 Sep 2001

well, the 'necropolis ideas' thread is a long one, but there are a few nice ideas there, including sth that gave an idea for an expansion pack town. it's quite raw and maybe bit crazy, but here we go:

there was an idea to have a sword that would fight without a master. so.. there is a town without spells, what about a town without creatures?
sth like the army of that town would consist of spells that have their own life. i.e. the appearance of the masterless sword is sth like the frenzy spell in homm3 to me. i guess the attack skill of the spell-creature could depend on the spell power and the corresponding magic school skill of the hero, or sth like that..
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Promising
Famous Hero
Elemental Druid
posted September 16, 2001 02:01 PM

Many posts to answer...

LordPaul and Saruman:
I really like the more choices per level idea! Never thought of it myself. I'll try to make the five old towns then... (goodbye expansion pack proposal )

Lichie_Lich:
I know it's tempting to say Death vs. Life and Order vs. Chaos, but that's not the way it is! It goes like this (you probably already know it):

Chaos vs. Order and Life
Death vs. Life and Nature
Order vs. Nature and Chaos
Life vs. Chaos and Death

So Nature already has two opponents: Death and Order. But I really like the gnome town idea. Couln't it be the artificial might town (none magic) vs. the natural might town Stronghold?

Gerdash:
I don't think the idea will hold...

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Djive
Djive


Honorable
Supreme Hero
Zapper of Toads
posted September 16, 2001 03:36 PM

The more choices per level ...

May actually be something that they've implemented already in the base product.

Is it only me or is there not 1 or 2 creatures per town that would really fit in, in addition to those who already are there?

The percentage of neutrals seems very high at the moment, so I wouldn't be surprised at all.
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Coldfyrius
Coldfyrius


Promising
Famous Hero
Vice-God for Marketing
posted September 16, 2001 09:39 PM

Look, the way 3DO has things set up, adding a new town in an expansion pack looks like it would be impossible.  So how about this idea?
1.  Add a fifth level of creatures.
and/or
2.  Add a bunch more neutrals. (ca. 40)
and/or
3.  Add a third choice of creatures for each town.

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Still
Still


Famous Hero
Your Ultimate Slayer
posted September 16, 2001 10:23 PM

Thoughts From Incubus!

Preserver had an idea of putting in 1 extra creature.. Like Medusa/Minotaur/Beholder..
I made 2 extra creatures for every Town.. and every level.. Like Medusa/Minotaur/Beholder/Chimera.

Here they are.Speed=How many spaces they can walk.
NOTES:
Werewolves are cursed and are werewolf forever..
I just love the Thunderbird.. had to give them moves.. Didn't knew any other creatures eather..
Also The Sea Serpent can Slide On land.
PLEASE I KNOW MUCH OF CREATURES... BUT WHAT CAN THE GRIM REAPER DO???? I don't know any moves for him...


NECOPOLIS
Level 1
Ghoul(Walker)(Eat Away Killed Units)(Speed=6)
Ghouls are undead gnolls that like to eat the death and bones. They eat away the death from the fields.
Rook(Flyer)(40% Blind)(Speed=10)
Half raven half Man with sharp beaks(Seen in Might and magic 9)
Level 2
Werewolf(Walker)(Create Werewolfs)(Speed =9)
Humans that turn into half human half wolf during nighttime(In this game they are cursed)
Shade(Flyer)(Shadow Clone)(Shadow Hide)(hate Will O Wisp)(Speed=19)
Black Ghost with red eyes)
Level 3
Succubus(Flyer)(No Male Revaliation)(50%Charm)(Speed=13)
Pretty girls with Demon wings on their back and smaller wings on head
Banshee(Swifter)(1%Death Scream)(Speed=9)
Banshees are pretty girl ghost, they are good in screaming
Level 4
Grim Reaper(Caster)(Ideas Welcome)(Speed=10)
The grim reaper looks like a skeleton with a scyte and a black cloak
Balrog(Flyer)(5%Inferno)(Speed= 14)
Balrogs are giant red winged demons with flaming swords


HAVEN
Level 1
Peasant(Walker)(Good For Econemy)(Speed=5)
Peasants are farmers that are very unusefull
Gnome(Healer)(Repair Battlemachines)(Speed=4)
Gnomes are little smart looking guys that love to repair and create giant machines
Level 2
Pegasus(Flyer)(Magic Aura)(Speed=18)
The Flying horse pegasus has manes like the rainbow(the unicorn has gold)
Eagle Eye(Shooter)(50% to Eagle Eye skill)(Eagle Scout)(Speed=9)
Archers that drink the blood of silver eagles become eagle eyes.
Level 3
Paladin(Healer)(Healing Aura)(Hates Undead)(heal unit)(Speed=7)
This holy man can fight like Crusaders and Heal like Zealots.They are sons of god.
Gryphon(Flyer)(Unlimited Retaliation)(hates Demons)(Speed=15)
Gryphons are half eagle half lion and are very Holy creatures for humans
Level 4
Silver Dragon(Flyer)(Spell Mirror)(Hates Werebeasts)(Speed=17)
Once sorceress now they are guardian dragons for the humans.
Golden Dragon(Caster)(Cast Luck)(Cast Morale)(More Gold)(Speed=10)
Look Like chinese dragons without any wings.

STRONGHOLD
Level 1
Kobold(Lurker)(Dig)(Map Teleport digging)(Better Gold mining)(Speed=5)
Kobolds also called Molemen live in Mines and Like to Collect gold and copy human faces.
Bard(Walker)(Low Morale Song)(Speed=7)
Vikings that think they can sing.. but their song can rather kill you!
Level 2
Wererat(Walker)(Turn Pirates into Wererat)(10%Agressive bite)(Speed=10)
In England cursed humans turn into werewolves, in Norway humans turn into wererats!
Mantray(Shooter)(Chain Lightning)(Burrow)(Speed=13)
A giant Stingray that can move true earth instead of water. Normal they live in deserts but something has drive them away from there.
Level 3
Sleipnir(Special)(Faster Map Movement)(40%Haste)(First Attack)(Speed=till attack)
The eight legged horse from odin is fastest creature on earth.
Thunderbird(Flyer)(Map Storm)(20%Thunder)(10%Rain)(Speed=16)
Some say this giant birds have the power to controll weather!
Level 4
Sea Serpent(Crawler)(Swim)(Destroy neutrall Ships)(ensnare)(Speed=4)
This giant Serpents like to Destroy ships.. but also can come to land to destroy other things.
Valkyrie(Flyer)(Aura:nobody can't use their specials)(Speed=19)
This Warrior ladies ride upon Winged White Stags with golden antlers, they are very holy and not many creatures dear to attack them.

ACADEMY
Level 1
Ooze(Slider)(Elemental resistance)(hate orcs)(Sacrifice for elemental Shield teammates)(Hate Orc)(Speed=4)
Ooze is slime that is created by magi to get rid of the irritating Orcs that curse the lands.
Scimitar(Swifter)(2 strikes)(Charging Attack)(+Extra for Weapon using Creatures)(Speed=5)
This Weapons are given life by a Magi.. Now the weapons can attack without any help
Level 2
Siren(Flyer)(25%Healing Song)(25%Luring Song)(25%Lullaby)(25%Savage Song)(Hate Harpy)(Speed=12)
Sirens Giant birds with the heads of Pretty women can sing songs you only can dream about. They hate harpies because they are ugly in their eyes.
Gargoyle(Flyer)(Turn into Stone for extra defence)(20%Stoneskin)(Speed=12)
Ones Statues with demonic forms they also have given life by the magi.. They now have a job as Castle guards.
Level 3
Scorpion King(Walker)(30%Poison Sting)(Summon Anacaris)(hate Spider Queen)(Speed=5)
Half Scorpion Half Men.. This sons of Tiamant like to summon fort anacaris.. giant black scorpions that are rather deatly poisoned.
Anubite(Walker)(1%Anubis Curse)(Anubis Map Curse)(Speed=10)
Agressive childern of the god of death Anubis.. They Look the same and have the power to call upon anubis famous curses.. wow Scary!
Level 4
Sphinx(Flyer)(50%Riddle Curse)(No enemey Retaliation)(Speed 10)
This lazy half female(face) half Lion(Body)Half Angel(Wings) like to ask riddles. when wrong they curse or eat you ;o)
Diamond Dragon(Walker)(Your rich ;o)(0,5%Diamond Storm)(Ultimate Defence)(Speed=16)
This Master of all creatures are made out of diamond.. they have wings made from amethyst but they are to heavy to fly.. so they walk. this dragons are not made by humans.. they are made by natures will! The black Dragons isn't strongest anymore..

ASYLUM
Level 1
Troglodyte(Walker/Swimmer)(Immune for Blind/Body and Mind spells)(Speed=5)
this fish like creatures can swim and walk.. they don't have eyes and live deeep under ground in tunnels.They often House in dwarf Cities that are left by dwarves.
Harpy(Flyer)(Like homm3)(Hate Siren)(Speed=13)
This half Vulture half Hag are back.. but how?
Level 2
Beholder(Caster)(2%Cast Random Chaos Spell)(No Shot Penalty for whole team)(Speed=7)
This giant eye creatures are just giant eyeballs with tentacles and little tentacles with eyes on it on the giant eye..(like evil eye) Legends say they can see future.A shame they work for evil.
Chimera(Flyer/Shooter)(2 shots)(Attack 2 enemies standing before the chimera and one behind)(Speed=13)
Chimera Are strange looking daughters of Echinda mother of all monsters.. she has the body and head of an lioness and a goathead stands next to the lioness head also a snake(with head) is the tail and they have old looking wings. They breath Fire with both heads.
Level 3
Spider Queen(Walker)(Summon Widow)(Web Trap)(10%Poison)(Hate Scorpion King)(Speed=5)
This half Spiders half Dark elves like to suck out life from you.. also they like to summon fort widows.. giant black VERY poisones spiders that kill you with only one bite.
Quetzalcouatl(Flyer)(Change Enemies Colours)(Luring Illusions)(Speed=10)
This very colourfull winged snake with crocodile like head likes to give everything strange colours.. In his forest everything has a strange colour.. red trees and green people.. it is told that they are god of colours.
Level 4
Doppelganger(Shifter)(change into Close Enemies)(Speed=Depents on wich creature)
These ugly people like to copy everything.. From Peasant to diamond dragon! Aware!
Manticore(Flyer)(Ultimate Dragon Slayer)(Paralyzing attack)(Speed=17)
The ultimate dragonslayer.. However crusaders may be a match.. They were created by evil Enchanters to destroy all those good dragons.. Manticores look like lions.. they have Dragon wings Scorpion tail and Human face..

PRESERVE
Level 1
Will O Wisp(Flyer)(40%Blind )(Immune to Light)(hate Shade)(Speed=7)
4 lights together one red one blue one green and one yellow.. They are little souls of death elves, they like to play..But if you don't want to play or dance with them they can be very dangerous. Also called the Light Elemental.
Lizardman(Walker)(Invisibility)(Speed=10)
This Lizard Race has turned good. They Can copy the colours that are around them and so become invisible, They lost their bows but now attack with dangrous sharp claws.
Level 2
Hippogryph(Flyer)(enemies can't retaliate)(Good Luck unit)(Camoflage)(Speed=18)
Cousins of the Gryphon the hippogryph are half Eagle(with parot colours) half Horse. they are a lust for the eye..(eyecandy)
Hind(Shooter)(1%Golden Arrow)(Anti-God)(Speed=11)
This half Dear/Stag half Elven Girl have golden hoves and antlers.. They have also golden bows and arrows with deadly poison on it.. that can kill GODS! The poison is their own Blood..
Level 3
Basilisk(Walker)(10%Charm collar)(10% Confuse Collar)(10%Turn to stone)(Speed=7)
This Giant Lizards are tamable, Their bite can turn you into stone and their Beautifull collar can confuse and charm you.. They also have 6 legs.. that make them fast walkers.
Wyvern(Flyer)(60% Poison)(Speed-18)
Lord of the sky.. Or lord of poison.. This Armless smaller dragons are very poisoness. Their poison can kill an elephant in only 1 Second! Beware!
Level 4
Druid(Shifter)(When Moving turn into Owl)(Summon Wolf)(Charm Neutrall Animals)(Turn into bear)(Speed=14)
Druids can talk turn and summon animals.. They dress like them to.. Mostly using the skin of bears or wolves to hide themselves in.. They think they regain power when doing that..The bear claws are used as usefull weapons.
Dryad(Teleporter)(Lurker Rooth)(Summon Dendroid)(Summon Obstacle)(Remove Obstacle)(Speed=20teleport)
Dryads are NImphs that live in trees.. And punish people who dear to kill or damage the trees. They are queens of the forests They are just beautifull naked females made out of wood and with green hair.

Summoned(Preserve)
Dendroid(Rooth)(Speed=4)
This Giant Treants are given life by the dryad.. they are servants of her and protect her with all cost.
Wolf(Dangerous in big packs)(Speed=12)
Wolfs are the most loyal pets of the druid.
Undine(Immune to water based Spells)(Whirlpool)(Speed=8)
this beautifull water Nimph has the power of water.. she is also called Water elemental.. They look like mermaids.. but have a watery skin.. their whole body is made out of water and they can turn into water too.. They have elvish ears and look very sexy.
Lurker(Immune to Earth Based Spells)(Earthquake)(Speed=5)
The Giant Earth Elementals are back! they look the same like they did in homm3 but they are now one with the earth.
Sylph(Immune to Wind based Spells)(Tornado)(Speed=17)
This female tornadoes... are half Female half Tornado.. With their airy skin they are hard to hit..
Salamander(Immune to Fire Based Spells)(When toughing fire their number will grow)(Speed=4)
This giant red/black reptiles are very hotheaded.. It's dangerous to summon them.. But Are also very usefull.. When toughing fire they will multiply!


Hydro Neutralls
Kraken
Lamprey
Leviathan
Triton
Shark
Scylla

Neutralls
Wendigo
Yeti
Frost Giant
Scarlet Dragon
Pit Lord
Slime Prince
Sun Dragon
Moon Dragon
Bone Golem
Amazone
Stygian Doll
Azure Dragon
Sand Wyrm
Ice Elf
Artic Bird
Scarab
Gorgon
Juggernout
Kelpie
Bee Queen
Mist Dragon
Black Angel
Incubus
Sabre Cat
Tengu
Samurai
Ninja
Nemean Lion
Fire Witch
Swamp Witch
Merman
Liontaur
Rust Dragon
Brigand


THANKS!

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Preserver
Preserver


Promising
Famous Hero
Elemental Druid
posted September 16, 2001 11:30 PM

More neutrals to come...

Quote:
Preserver had an idea of putting in 1 extra creature.. Like Medusa/Minotaur/Beholder..
I made 2 extra creatures for every Town.. and every level.. Like Medusa/Minotaur/Beholder/Chimera.
Damn!... Incubus beaten me to it... Now I'm angry!!!!
Anyway I promised him to post some more neutrals:

Sharpshooters
Magic Elementals
River Stalkers
Serpentoids
Forest Dragon
Worg
Morgana
Magog
Roc
Gypsy
Moon Bear
Carrion Bird
Black Knight
Abbysal Knight
Lich King
Queen of Death
Specter
Scarecrow
Sabretooth


I'll post my five towns soon...

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LordPaul
LordPaul


Promising
Famous Hero
Crazy Bat Guy.
posted September 16, 2001 11:35 PM

Uh . . .

Lichs and Paladins are Hero types.  Why would 3do make them creatures, too, when the creatures would be naturally weaker than the Heroes?

And I think some newbie thought of the extra creature idea a Looooonnnnggg time ago in some forgoten thread.


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Preserver
Preserver


Promising
Famous Hero
Elemental Druid
posted September 16, 2001 11:43 PM

Note from Incubus:

To lordpaul..
There aren't any Paladin and Lich Kings... Those are necromancers and lords.. NO paladins and Liches..
I don't like it when Druids,Paladins and Liches are heroes.. they must be units..

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LordPaul
LordPaul


Promising
Famous Hero
Crazy Bat Guy.
posted September 17, 2001 12:00 AM

I didn't have time to find all the quotes, but here is a quote from Maranthea, the secondary producer of Heroes 4:

Quote:

Once you get advanced in two different primary skills you'll become one of the advanced classes. This allows you to easily identify what types of skills a hero has. An Archmage for example will have gotten fairly far in three or more schools of magic. That way you can expect Zippy the Archmage to have three types of magic. Crag Hack the Barbarian is going to just have Combat skills, but Mullich the Paladin is going to know both Tactics and Life Magic. [For each level Advancement,] there will be choices between three skills. One you already have, a new secondary skill (which would be related to one of the primary skills you have) and a new primary skill.



So there are Paladins, and there are Lichs in the game.  Simply saying that you don't like something and it shouldn't be in the game doesn't mean it won't be in the game!!!!!


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Preserver
Preserver


Promising
Famous Hero
Elemental Druid
posted September 17, 2001 10:55 PM
Edited By: Preserver on 17 Sep 2001

Hmmm...

Maybe I should rename this thread "creature ideas made by Incubus". Well anyway here are the neutral creature abilities: (look at the time he spent to make it!!!)

Time started nine o clock(evening)
Neutralls
LEVEL 1 CREATURES:

STYGIAN DOLL: (Shooter)(10%Poison Blowgun)(1%Voodoo)(Speed=12)
This little Canibal like dolls are given life by Voodoo priests.. they ones where lifeless voodoo dolls.. but ow they are alive seaking for Human flesh.

SCARAB: (Flyer)(turn Into Scarab Demons)(Speed=10)
Scarabs are irritating little Golden Beetles.. with big ease they will come inside your body. eating out your brains when you still breath! OUTCH! Some Pharaohs use them to get info out of others. by placing Scarabs near enemies Hart.. when they refuse to talk the scarab eats their hart.

BRIGAND: (Walker)(Hate Humans)(Give monsters units +Morale)(Better morale to Brigand when more monster units)(Speed=6)
They are human haters.. Mostly old soldiers that didn't get paid enough.. or who wanted to get some more Adventure.. They mostly join Goblins or orc armies to fight against their own human brothers..

WORG: (Walker)(Ice Immunity)(Faster Snow level Movement)(hate Wolf)(Speed=14)
This Big bad white wolves infest the Frozen forests, They are totally white and have evil red glowing eyes. this is the only thing you see when facing them in the snow.

MAGOG: (Shooter)(Fireball)(Fire Multiply)(Immune to Fire)(Speed=6)
Born out of fire.. This little demon like creatures like to play with fire! Throwing hot gas balls at their enemies.. by inpact they will explode and cause much damage to the whole area.. Also when they tough Natural fire they will multiply!

CARRION BIRD: (Flyer)(Eat Away Killed Units to Gain Life and Stenght)(Hate Undead)(Speed=10)
This very Cauward(sorry) birds only attack and eat the death..

SCARECROW: (Walker)(Hate Birds)(Birds have bad luck and morale)(Speed=3)
They are given life by Farmers. who wanted to get rid of the birds that ruined their lands.. Unfortunately the scarecrows turned into killer machines.. Not only killing birds but also humans and animals.. they posses super human strenght.. and razor sharp claws.. Somehow the spells worked a little.. scarecrow really hates birds.. and hunt them down even the biggest bird species.


LEVEL 2 CREATURES:

LAMPREY: (Swimmer)(The more he swims the more damage he does)(slow down Enemy Ships)(Speed=17)
Giant Swordfish that Like to Attack Ships.

TRITON: (Shooter)(Good Luck for Water Units)(Trident Thrower)(1% Tidal Wave)(Speed=6)
This Sea Folk (that look like the tritons from Might and magic8) Are kings of the sea.. They hate the land creatures and have giant Tritons to pick on them.They are said to controll the water of the sea.

SLIME PRINCE: (Shooter)(Immune to Poison)(Jump over Obstacles)(Acid spit can 10% Poison enemies or 10% Damage their defence skills)(Speed=12)
Once a proud prince.. now a giant yellow/Black Frog. They are told that if they kill many they will turn into prince again... There is nothing more dangerous then the slime prince fighting to gain his beauty back.

AMAZONE: (Shooter)(20% 3 arrows)(40% 2 Arrows)(hate males)(Speed=11)
A Whole Female race.. They hate males and say they don't need them. They have find a way to give birth without needing a male, they are also perfect warriors, mostly with bow skills.

ICE ELF: (Shooter)(20%Ice Arrow)(Ice owl scout)(immune to Ice)(Hate elves)(Speed=7)
Ones Normal wood elves. Some invasions turned them into cold hearted blue elves. Don't let those cute blue faces fool you! Their hart knows only hate now. They are perfect shooters and sometimes shoot arrows that can freeze your blood.

KELPIE: (Walker)(Enemies can't attack Back)(hate Unicorns)(1%Unicorn Illusion)(Speed=12)
This Horse looks like the nightmare. They only are green colour.. their manes tale and hair on hoves are Like sea weed. They form the illusion to be an Unicorn.. So beautifull maiden want's to ride them.. then they jump into the lake and drown and eat the maiden.

SABRE CAT: (Walker)(Close Units have Bad Luck)(First Attack)(Speed=15)
Very Acrobatic very untrusty and very pretty.. For a cat female anyway.. They hold whips and like to trade slaves in desert areas..(Idea from Diablo 2)

RIVER STALKER: (Swimmer)(Attack From 2 Spaces away)(Extra Damage to flying Units)(Speed=5)
This very Sweet and Friendly nessy(monster of loch ness) like creatures.. Like to play with children.. many evil sorceress hunt them.. because their blood is said to Create magical Weapons.

GYPSY: (Shifter)(Summon Wolf)(Turn Into Wolf)(30%Poison Dagger)(Speed=12)
Never make fun or cheat with an gypsy! They will kill or curse you! They Adore the wolves.. thinking they are like gods.. They study wolfs so good they are now able to summon them and even turn into them.. Females are famous for their ability to read your fortune.


LEVEL 3 CREATURES

SHARK: (Swimmer)(10% Second Destroyer Attack)(Second attack much stronger and sometimes 1 hit kill!)(Speed=12)
This Giant Sharks Like Blood.. When smelling or tasting it there is no way to stop this giant fish anymore.

WENDIGO: (Walker)(Follow you till end on map)(Follow 1 pertaculair unit)(Speed=10)
Giant Sasquatch with skeleton faces.When a person looks in their eyes they will follow that person till one of the 2 is killed.

YETI: (Shooter)(immune to frost)(Snowball damage the walls)(Exploding Snowball)(Speed=4)
This giant White Sasquatch lives in cold areas, they throw giant snow balls toward their enemies.

PIT LORD: (Walker)(Transform death units into Demons)(When highest unit the Units never get -morale or -luck)(best leader in game)(Speed=8)
Ones the Proud Admiral of the Devil.. Now they are banished.. They still like to summon demons.. They need death and pain for doing so tought..

BONE GOLEM: (Walker)(Strikes 4 times!)(Immune to Arrows)(Speed=5)
The ultimate Slayer.. Created by combining many legendary death heroes. They are skeletons with four arms.. all holding a giant sword.

GORGON: (Walker)(10%Death Stare)(Defence can't be damaged even not by spells)(Speed=7)
This Cursed Witches are bulls now.. They can't look upwards anymore.. if they do they will destroy everthing they see! their breath is like sulpher.

BEE QUEEN: (Flyer)(Insect Bonus)(Summon Swarm)(1% Soul Stinger)(Speed=12)
This Queen of insects with the size of an Bear, don't look for honey like their little family members.. they like to collect Souls instead of Honey.

MIST DRAGON: (Swifter)(Immune to weapons)(10% Mist)(Close Enemies are blind)(Speed=7)
When somebody enters this mystirious mist, there will be nothing more left then clothes and bones.
Tought to be mist.. Some legends say it are living beings.

TENGU: (Flyer)(1% Death Look)(10% Sai throw)(No Enemy Retaliation)(Speed=11)
They say they are prinses.. But under that mask they have faces that can kill you by only looking at it! They also have black wings.. They just are witches that say they are prinses.. they hold Sai swords as weapons.

INCUBUS: (Flyer)(No Girl Revaliation)(50%Charm)(Speed=13)
Vain.. No other word for this brother of the succubus. Pretty men with giant black wings.. They only way to kill an incubus is to let say a beautifull maiden "Your ugly" this will never happen tought... They fill up their so called beauty by eating souls from maiden after sex. Just like the succubus does with males.

NINJA: (Shooter)(Shadow Hide)(50% Poison Ninja Star)(hate Samurai)(Speed=16)
Very Fast and usefull assassins.. They almost never fail in a mission they get from their mysterious leaders.. They use shadows to hide.

FIRE WITCH: (Caster)(random fire Spells every 2 rounds)(Immune to fire)(Speed=7)
This Good witches like to study their fire spells day after day.. They look sexy in those red dresses and their hair is made from fire.

SWAMP WITCH: (Walker)(1%Turn Into Frog)(Hate Unicorns and Pixies)(Speed=4)
This very ugly and old hags like to turn their enemies into frogs. They like all that is ugly.

MERMAN: (Walker)(100% Poison!)(Faster swamp movement)(Speed=5)
Mermans Live deep in swamps.. Eating everything that dears to enter this swamp.. They look awsome!(i wish i could show you a pic! Aerial!)

LIONTAUR: (Caster)(1% Total Heal)(Regeneration)(Speed=10)
They are like Centaurs.. only the horse part is lion.. and also the face is lion(With human style) They are said to be good healers. It's bad they use their skills only on their selves.. they are very selfish and only heal others for gold.

SHARPSHOOTER: (Shooter)(Never miss shot)(No Shot Penalty)(1% Light Arrow)(Speed=8)
This are the best shooters known.. Their father is elf.. their mother is Human.. this makes Sharpshooters.. Their Light arrows are good against the undead..

SERPENTOID: (Crawler)(10%Hypnosis)(1%Deatly Viper)(Speed=7)
They are so toxic.. they can kill 10 elephants within only 1 minut.. their poison is very painfull and very deatly.. Don't look into their eyes.. they will hypnotize you!They are looking like cobras with arms and claws.(seen in Might and magic8)

MORGANA: (Flyer)(Oasis Lure Illusion)(Trap Illusion)(Scary Illusion)(Speed=12)
This Green Female Desert Genies like to create Illusions.. Like oasis and other fantasies.. Mostly they do this to Lure Bad humans away from the good. When they are far in the desert they will die for nothing.. They also make dragon and titan illusions to scare away stronger enemies. A so called queen of illusions.

MOON BEAR: (Walker)(Turn Into Dangerous Evolution When Staying in team and surviving 3 battles)(Speed=11)
This moonblue bears will change into killer bears when getting enough experiment... When this killer bear they will destroy everything.. they fear nothing!

SABRETOOTH: (Walker)(1% Summon God Power)(Guard Buildings on map)(Speed=14)
This big sabretooth tigers with golden nales and Teeth are cursed enemies of the gods.. They ones where humans.. but did some crimes against the gods.. now they are guarding the god temples in a Sabretooth tiger form.. for their punishments..

SPECTER: (Flying Caster)(Mana Absorb!)(Caster units can't cast spells or specials when close to Specter)(Speed=9)
Made by evil mages to form the perfect weapon against the good mages.. The Specter are able to Absorb all the magic from the mages... The also suck out your mind.. Unfortunately the Specters also sucked out the evil mages.. now they are on free foot.. They are very dangerous and they don't take anyones orders

ABYSS KNIGHT: (Shooter)(Shot disables the specials of the enemies.)(hate Paladin)(Speed=7)
Some Necromancers just used their Necromancer powers on the Death Paladins.. they turned out into creatures even your worst nightmares didn't tought about.. using negative Auras to weaken and cursing their enemies is one of their many evil skills.

QUEEN OF DEATH: (Caster)(Random Necromancie/Summon undead Spell)(good luck and morale for Undead)(Speed=7)
Female Necromancers that like to call themselves Queens.. Somehow they also are ;o) Their Necromancer skills are very good!

LICH: (Caster)(1% Poison God Curse)(Toxic Claud)(Speed=7)
They have given their soul to the poison god Viper.. To gain his powers.. Now he will help this evil liches to destroy everthing with his poison power.Liches ones where proud human leaders that became evil before they died.. All liches where evil and rulers before they died.. Elswhere you can't become lich..


LEVEL 4 CREATURES:

BLACK KNIGHT: (Walker)(Hate Champion)(20%Second Strike)(10% Curse)(Speed=13)
This headless Death knights hold a sword with the heat of hell.. to cut of other heads with big ease.. They are killed by the guillotine.. and now are back alive.. Swearing To cut off all heads they see. Some legends say they feed the heads to a mysterious Tree.

FOREST DRAGON: (Flyer)(His Teammates can't become cursed and also not poisoned Only when Serpentoid is on battlefield then they can become Poisoned)(Camoflage)(Speed=14)
This small friendly green dragons of the forest fight for a better nature.. Mostly they once where trees.. Dryads created dragons out of this trees.. They look like the green dragons from homm3 and Their breath is deatly but also can heal nature. Even turn death Plants back to living ones. They are also called guardians of the forest.

MAGIC ELEMENTAL: (Caster)(Immune To Magic)(Absorb Spells,When Enemies cast one)(Speed=10)
They are one of the only summoned creatures that are good and loyal.. They have the power to absorb all magic and also are immune to it.. They are able to use all spells known.. Their mind just locks up information and never let it go. They are like living Spell books.

RUST DRAGON: (Flyer)(1% Disable Blocking for ever! the enemy can't defence himself anymore.. Never again. als when the battle ends.. the next fight you can't still not Defence with that unit)(Speed=16)
LOOK OUT! When a rust dragon uses his rusty breath on you, you can't move anymore and your armor is lost... They also use their Club on the end of their tail for knocking you for hard damage.

NEMEAN LION: (Walker)(Best Defence of all Units known)(very weak to Spells)(Immune to psycical attacks and attack with weapons claws)(Speed=9)
This Lion is a son of the Mother of all monsters echidna. They are said to have a skin that cannot be pierced.. Even not with an sharp diamond.. the only way to kill this oversized lions is to use spells.

SAMURAI: (Walker)(0,3% Samurai Slayer=1 hit kill)(Hate Ninja)(Can Guard buildings then enemies don't try to conquer it)(Speed=4)
Samurai are very good guards.. and Hold giant swords.. They are not human and have the size of an Ogre. Their Hard armour protect them from everything and they also wear golden masks.

BLACK ANGEL: (Flying Caster)(Hate Angels)(Bad morale to enemies)(Life and Death Ward)(Speed=19)
Only hell can make something so vile! They are the evil brothers of the Angels. With black raven wings and Long black hair.. Soul green fire rise from their sword and eyes.. They hate their brothers. Some say they are only evil clones.

JUGGERNOUT: (Walker)(Hate Frost Giant)(1% Armageddon)(Fire Immunity)(Speed=13)
This giant red 2 headed Giants are from hell.. they use giant burning tree branches as weapons. They also enjoy playing with human victims before eating them. Both heads have one eye. And a giant horn on it.

ARTIC BIRD: (Flyer)(Ice Immunity)(Hate Phoenix)(Ice Aura Slows down Close Units)(Rebirth)(Speed=21)
This Giant Blue phoenix are summoned by powerfull evil wizards.. To get rid of those strong phoenixes.

SAND WYRM: (Lurker)(Immune to earth)(1%Earthquake)(Quicksand Trap)(Burrow)(Speed=13)
This giant worms(For looks watch my old avatar!) Like to invade the deserts.. Many nomads and other desert creatures fear them.. because of their never ending lust for flesh.. They just never stop eating! When they move underground small earthquakes start to form.

AZURE DRAGON: (Flyer)(hate Scarlet Dragon)(Immune to Frost)(10%Frozen Breath)(Speed=17)
This giant Blue frosty dragons have spots with White fur/hair on their blue bodies.. This shows that the times of earth are really disturved. Normally this dragon gains only hair when winter shows up.

SCARLET DRAGON: (Flyer)(Immune to fire)(Hate Azure dragon)(Fire Breath)(Speed=16)
This Red Dragons is really a hot head. Living in still working Vulcanoes made them become Totall fire immune. They hate their Blue Causins. and do everything to get rid of them.

FROST GIANT: (Walker)(immune to frost)(hate Juggernout)(10% Blizzard that slows down and damage all units on screen!)(Speed=12)
This Blue Giants have a cold breath that can freeze a whole jungle.They aren't really evil. But they really defend their terretorium. And kill everything that tries to come close. They use Giant Ice Axes to do the job.

SCYLLA: (Flyer)(Attack All Suroundings)(No enemy Retaliation)(When attacking Neutrall ship there will always -2 Random units because they are eaten before they are reach the neutrall ship)(Speed=7)
This Giant Sister of Charibdus looks like a winged Flesh coloured Hydra.. Only the scylla has 6 heads that are all with heads with only Razor sharp teeth. They like wait on cliffs on passing boats.. then each of the 6 heads will eat an Sailor.

KRAKEN: (Crawler)(Hate Sea Serpent)(50%Blinding Ink)(Eight Arm Attack)(Speed=4)
This Giant Octopus race likes to blind their Enemies with their Dark Ink, they hate the Sea Serpent because they want to be master of the sea.


HIGHER LEVEL CREATURES:?

LEVIATHAN: (Swimmer)(Immune to spells)(hate Behemoth)(Destroy Neutrall Ships)(Enemies can't defence)(Speed=10)
This Giant Creatures are looking like Giant Sea Crocodiles with Flippers like a Mosasaur,They are the biggest sea creatures by far! They can eat a whole pirate ship with big ease!

SUN DRAGON: (Flyer)(Immune to Psycical)(hate Moon Dragon)(Boss character)(Sun Aura)(Speed=24)
The Pet of the sungod. They are dragons made out of fire like the phoenix.. Some say they are able to turn the time.

MOON DRAGON: (Flyer)(Hate Sun Dragon)(Immune for Psycical attack)(Boss Character)(Moon Aura)(Speed=20)
The Pet of Luna godess of the moon. They are female dragons with angel wings on Back,head and Tail end. It is told that they glow in mystrious Colours during nighttime.

ROC: (Flyer)(10% Fear=Old Azure Dragon skill)(Flying On Map)(Immune to spells)(Speed=20)
Masters of the Sky.. There isn't a bigger flying creature then the roc.. Even dragons fear them.. There children already eat elephants and wales.. the roc parents like to eat bigger dragons and Krakens..



Note: THe undead you see are all Banned or going of themselves from the necro..
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The leviathan and roc are level 5 creatures:

The Sun and Moon dragons are bosses and are level 7 creatures(just like the npc armagedons dragons)

(Time Finished 10 minutes past Ten..)LOL that explanes the many mistakes in english words..)

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Famous Hero
Elemental Druid
posted September 18, 2001 03:14 PM
Edited By: Preserver on 18 Sep 2001

+1 creature per level towns...

Here's my proposal for the +1 per level expansion. First I tried to make the levels flyer/walker/shooter (according to what we already know will be in the towns), but then I dropped it, cause I only could add flyers and shooters for almost all the levels. So here are my original expansion pack proposal shortet down to four new creatures per town (not many new ideas ). Hope you like it anyway...


Academy:
Level 1: Gremlin (shooter) (hate imps) (water multiply)
Level 2: Dragon Slayer (walker) (hate dragons, minus the golem)
Level 3: Magic Elemental (teleporter) (all spell immunity)
Level 4: Sphinx (flyer) (no enemy retaliation) (50% curse attack)


Haven:
Level 1: Peasant (walker) (looks stupid, but can be upgraded to the cool woodsman )
Level 2: Griffin (flyer) (unlimited retaliations)
Level 3: Pegasus (flyer) (magic damper)
Level 4: Silver Dragon (flyer) (nature, chaos, death and order spell immunity)


Preserve:
Level 1: Woodsman (shooter) (earns you one gold per day) (upgrades from bandit and peasant)
Level 2: Troll (walker) (regenerate)
Level 3: Wyvern (flyer) (50% poison attack)
Level 4: Dryad (walker) (summon obstacle) (summon dendroid) (not a visible part of the army on the adventure map)


Asylum:
Level 1: Harpy (flyer) (swooping attack)
Level 2: Liontaur (walker) (spellcaster) (regenerate)
Level 3: Manticore (flyer) (hate good dragons)
Level 4: Rust Dragon (flyer) (acid breath)


Necropolis:
Level 1: Ghoul (walker) (10% disease attack)
Level 2: Vampire (flyer) (resurrect troop members)
Level 3: Gorgon (walker) (10% death stare)
Level 4: Black Knight (walker) (hate champions) (first strike) (20% double damage)


Stronghold:
Level 1: Werewolf (walker) (10% charm and turn into werewolf attack)
Level 2: Chimera (flyer) (2+1 hex attack)
Level 3: Giant Spider (walker) (hate and binds flying creatures)
Level 4: Sand Wurm (walker) (20% earthquake) (can make battlefield hide)


I noticed some people were not familiar with the liontaur. So here it is:



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