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DeathPhoenix
Tavern Dweller
Holding life by the throat.
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posted May 23, 2008 04:08 AM |
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Naadir and Kaspar are the best.
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Hellburn
Famous Hero
The efreet
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posted May 23, 2008 10:52 AM |
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Vladimir?
ONLY 1 sp for 5 levels? That's not too good.
I would choose Deidre if her dampening morale and luck were increasing with her levles...
I would choose Naadir if he could increase some of ghosts statistics...
I think the best choice is Kaspar.
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Anakrom
Known Hero
(Scroll) Out of the blue
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posted May 23, 2008 11:19 AM |
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I personally like Naadir, Deidre and Zoltan.
Naadir has two important spell branches and his special helps alot while creeping large creatures/shooters.
Deidre starts with Dark, which is always good, and her special is great for smaller maps.
Zoltan is good for MP, he levels-up faster, enlightenment bonus comes handy while rushing and his special can seriously harm other Necros and Wizards. Moreover, Eagle Eye is pretty cool for necros.
I donīt get why so many players like Kaspar, WM arenīt the best idea for Necro.
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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted May 23, 2008 11:27 AM |
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First Aid Tent healing 25 hp at 1st level is a powerhouse during creeping, allowing you to take flawlessly all stacks within range in the few first days.
However, his speciality without 100-shot mod is quite sucky. I don't understand why the ballista has infite shots and 1st Aid Tent not.
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Anakrom
Known Hero
(Scroll) Out of the blue
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posted May 23, 2008 11:45 AM |
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First Aid Tent healing 25 hp at 1st level is a powerhouse during creeping, allowing you to take flawlessly all stacks within range in the few first days.
However, his speciality without 100-shot mod is quite sucky. I don't understand why the ballista has infite shots and 1st Aid Tent not.
Sure, but it helps you only withing range of first few days - ballista is pretty weak in Necros hands (requires Attack and Knowlege, Necro is Defence/SP hero). Not to mention that good Necropolis player wonīt have losses anyway (not counting few useless Zombie baits). And for rest of game WM skill only keeps you flodded with useless skills. Naadir starts with open way for Summon Elemental, Fire Trap creeping and Master of Mind. Kaspar is good only for very small and rushable maps, otherwise he is waste.
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zamrai
Adventuring Hero
Moonlight Melody
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posted May 23, 2008 12:23 PM |
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Edited by zamrai at 12:45, 23 May 2008.
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Naadir starts with open way for Summon Elemental, Fire Trap creeping and Master of Mind
Naadir is the best for experienced tactic-oriented players. His starting skills allow him to learn 5-level spells of two magic schools very fast, not to mention mass curses.
His special ability of raising ghost can do miracles in tactic battles against very strong neutrals or even regular hero battles.
Playing consciously one can win with much stronger enemy that way covering his troops with raised ghosts which have 50% chance to be missed.
I won once against two population large Sylvan army only with 20 ghosts splitted in 1-1-1-1-1-1-14 stacks. CoN + raised ghosts + his often missed attacks was the ace here.
Against good Sylvan player with rain of arrows and imbue arrow it would be much harder but not impossible.
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would choose Naadir if he could increase some of ghosts statistics...
If consider his special from the -power of army- point of view his raised ghosts are useless but it has only tactic purpose. But way more useful than just increasing ghosts stats.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 23, 2008 01:54 PM |
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His special is already too good both in creeping and hero battles. It can clog the battlefield for the enemy, block shooters, cover dead stacks making it impossible to raise immediately, free cannon fodder for stealing retaliations etc.
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edwin_yang
Known Hero
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posted May 24, 2008 05:24 PM |
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Naadir's special is very good to counter dungeon's stalker HR..
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Lexxan
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
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posted May 24, 2008 06:19 PM |
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Arantir 
Otherwise I say Naadir or Raven (Skills, not speciality for Raven)
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VokialBG
Honorable
Legendary Hero
First in line
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posted May 24, 2008 06:29 PM |
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Naadir, Raven, Vlad, Zoltan... etc they are sucks... the best Necro heroes are Kaspar and Deirdre.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 24, 2008 06:51 PM |
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I used to think that way when I was a noob Kaspar is pretty decent but in long games all you have to do is kill the tent and rob him of 5 level ups. Deirdre is not bad but cannot match Vladimir or Naadir's speed without some luck.
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zamrai
Adventuring Hero
Moonlight Melody
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posted May 24, 2008 07:12 PM |
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Choice of particular hero depends of strategy and enemy so I wouldn't ever say that only some are great and the rest suck.
I used to think that Naadir is poor. But just misunderstood his potential then.
Try to win against two Sylvan population army with only 7 ghosts army or creep dragons at the beggining of 2nd week playing any other Necro hero. Good luck
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Darkshadow
Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
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posted May 24, 2008 07:36 PM |
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Will do (With arantir ).Ill give a list that I think how necromancer heroes go:
Vladimir:Medicore because raise dead got nerfed 
Naadir:Good creeping and mid game potential, not so good in late game where you will be crushed anyway
Lucretia:Medicore because she starts with sorcery, can turn vampires to powerbarrriers though.
Kaspar:The worst speciality, ever.The aid tent is not that great, and I NEVER use plague tent.
Deirdre osen't top Naadir, but is better than Vladimir, the banshee howl turns into monster (if combined with howl of terror)
Orson nly if you get arties to boost zombies init to 11, and even then he is medicore.
Raven: Every three levels...Makes her under medicore, not that great.
Zoltan: The weapon of mass desctruction against warlocks, the spell block will kindly reduce their magic to zero, and then you can just decimate the dungeons with CotN.
Markal: Overpowered speciality, bad starting skill.
Ornella: Vampire powerbarriers...
Arantir: The imbalance itself, Avatar of death equals stack of 11 phoenixes with vampirism on max level.
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zamrai
Adventuring Hero
Moonlight Melody
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posted May 24, 2008 07:44 PM |
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Naadir:Good creeping and mid game potential, not so good in late game where you will be crushed anyway
No I won't 
Having two magic schools mastered very soon and excellent creeping I decide when the game ends and the enemy is catched with hands in his pants then
And do not underestimate tactical meaning of raising ghosts - even in final battle.
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Darkshadow
Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
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posted May 24, 2008 07:46 PM |
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I was mainly reffering to Sylvan (who are imbalanced), you will most likely be destroyed before your hero can act.
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zamrai
Adventuring Hero
Moonlight Melody
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posted May 24, 2008 07:53 PM |
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Edited by zamrai at 19:55, 24 May 2008.
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I was mainly reffering to Sylvan (who are imbalanced), you will most likely be destroyed before your hero can act.
Against imba Wyngaal it is quite likely. In any other case this is not so obvious.
Like I wrote in some post above Naadir lvl 15 with Curse of netherworld and only 7 ghosts army can win against two population alrge Sylvan army. I did that and his raised ghosts was the crucial factor blocking enemy units what gave me time for casting.
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WarLore
Famous Hero
servant of urgash
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posted May 24, 2008 07:55 PM |
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deidre,kaspar and naadir are best necros. zoltan and raven are jokes.
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Darkshadow
Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
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posted May 24, 2008 08:22 PM |
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Zoltan is far from joke when against dungeon,He will be your best weapon as he blocks enemy spells, are you planning to go against sinitar that has expert destructive,ignite,empowered spells, high spellpower and a throng of stalkers with kaspar?
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VokialBG
Honorable
Legendary Hero
First in line
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posted May 24, 2008 08:29 PM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 20:34, 24 May 2008.
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I used to think that way when I was a noob Kaspar is pretty decent but in long games all you have to do is kill the tent and rob him of 5 level ups. Deirdre is not bad but cannot match Vladimir or Naadir's speed without some luck.
Vlad trully sucks, cuz RD sucks as well, Naadir start with useless skills and stupid ability, can help you only vs neutrals in early game... I tried them all millions of times, Raven, Zoltan, Naadir... Vlad was good before 1.2.
Zoltan can be usefull against RD spammers, summoners etc... but he can't do much against Light Magic (I don't count Resurrection only) and Destructive.
Raven... well - 5 def on the Archangel will help?
Naadir level 15 after killing 90 Marksmans will rise 15 ghost cool in neutlar battles funny in real battles. Also they are summoned creatures so the enemy will have to kill only our non-summoned creatures (normal creatures) and you'll lose the combat with ghosts or not... they are like the gated creatures (but less in numbers). Naadir has just pathetic spez imo...
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Hellburn
Famous Hero
The efreet
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posted May 24, 2008 08:50 PM |
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Does Deidre in late game loses her bonus to dampen morale from speciality and decreases it by only -1? I've got this often...
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