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sq79
Famous Hero
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posted February 20, 2007 01:50 PM |
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[qoute]they can play hide and seek with the golems and zombies
lol I did that once with Skeleton versus many Conscripts (the battlefield was also favorable, as it had a huge almost-round obstacle and I ran away around it)
Lol 
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VokialBG
Honorable
Legendary Hero
First in line
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posted February 21, 2007 12:58 PM |
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Tests
Equal heroes (Razzak) Lv. 15, Without War machines (in the creatures stacks are only 1 population from the first day without castle or other biuldings).
Results:
Assasin vs. Skirmisher
Winner: Skirmisher
Marksman vs. Master Gremlin
Winner: Marksman
Succubus Mistress vs Crossbowman
Winner: Crossbowman ( )
Crossbowman vs. Marksman
Winner: Crossbowman
I must test the master huntres too 
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TheDeath
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
with serious business
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posted February 21, 2007 01:01 PM |
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You must be joking with these tests right?
You can't compare creatures-to-creatures in different tiers.. you'll find out the Titans win against everything, but they are expensive too, so they are not necessarily the strongest
And it's also unfair because Succubus Mistress for example has Chain shot, you didn't even use it up with that test.
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted February 21, 2007 05:09 PM |
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Such "tests" are really a poor idea, Vokial
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted February 23, 2007 10:42 AM |
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The test probably doesn't tell you very much about how useful the creature is in combat. Like I said, in a 1-on-1 combat, the Titan will pawn all others.
Btw. will there be a Round 2 of the discussion? I mean, things seem to have settled down pretty much in Round 1 (even though people didn't quite agree).
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted February 24, 2007 12:51 PM |
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My turn(Havent read anything in this post, too much  Sorry)
I said Master hunter, if they get soldiers luck.. and good amount of luck they can be pain...
Just a few words for the rest too:
Skirmishers, again soldiers luck and they are great.. With some dmg boosting thing...
Skeleton Archer: They no longer come in 2000 per battle, so not that great anymore... But in a long game they will be pain..
Succubus Mistress: They are great and new shooters... Sad their dmg aint that high and chain shot doesn't dmg much either.
Marksman: Dougla, RM, Divine S, Haste, Deflect and well all light magic buffs... and 500 of these guys and BAM!! Dead...
Assassin: hmm... Poison, yeah okay... Low numbers, Bad... Dmg, Bad... Speed, good... Average... but its a low average!
Titan: Muhahha... Titans, for me they are not as good as they used to be.. But what the hell, They are great...
Gremlin: These are great, no dmg. But who cares! They are going old school...
Fire Elemental: What is this?!
Sorry, not that serious about this... many shooters in this game, has just reached the bottom...
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TowerLord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted February 24, 2007 01:14 PM |
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My vote goes to one of Master Hunters and Marksmen !
The higher initiative makes me go for the Master Hunters... Also i think Master Hunters are much better than Succubi, especially Ossir's Master Hunters, which really are something.
Marksmen are not what they used to be , but they are still very important for Haven's army.I haven't played any final battle with Haven since the new patch, but I think you shouldn't train marksmen at all, just go for paladins. Their numbers are enough to make them a powerfull force even without training.
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Zeromus
Adventuring Hero
and happy about it
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posted April 27, 2007 08:53 AM |
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The succubus mistress is the best ranged creature, because of their excellent specials, and there is no real painless way to get rid of them. Also, if you have Hellfire and lots of mana, those little mistresses become real killing machines.
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Homer171
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted April 27, 2007 11:50 AM |
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Titans has low hitpoints compared to other lv7 creatures. They do have mini arties but 90 health gap for Magmas sure makes you fell they are pretty weak.. Still Titans are best shooters in the game but Mistress are my favorites.
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted April 27, 2007 03:16 PM |
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master hunter and the crossbowman
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Lesij
Famous Hero
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posted April 27, 2007 05:03 PM |
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The best shooter?
Master Hunter, IMHO, combined with Soldier's and Elven Luck he is just unstopable
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Lesij
Famous Hero
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posted April 27, 2007 05:04 PM |
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there is no real painless way to get rid of them.
Really?
What about Implosion?
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nickkkk
Known Hero
Necro fan since 1988
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posted May 01, 2007 03:37 PM |
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You forgot some creatures:
Shadow Matriarch, Arch Mage, Druid Elder, Arch Lich and Inquisitor.
I would say it's the Arch Mage. Even he has low damage, he has Magic Attack.
You can hit so many creatures in one shot... Even you can hit your creatures, I think that it is very powerful ability.
Arch Lich - definetly. Why wasn't it introduced in the voting section? I rarely (10 %) use liches for their casting abilities, because with 19 attack and defense and 16-20 damage they can do a great deal of damage, plus they can catch more units. Another good archer is the rune patriarch, with the same quality.
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted May 01, 2007 03:42 PM |
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The best shooter?
Master Hunter, IMHO, combined with Soldier's and Elven Luck he is just unstopable
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Really?
What about Implosion?
Now combine your two posts and you'll see if master hunter is really unstoppable
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Sanyu
Known Hero
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posted May 01, 2007 04:23 PM |
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Succubus mistress for me...
A shooter that has decent health, can deter other shooters from attacking her, has ability that wreaks havoc to 3 (the last shot is too weak to be ever useful) of the enemy's creatures, has average initiative of 10 (well at least better than fortress with their 9 initiative shooters), what more can I ask for?
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Lesij
Famous Hero
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posted May 01, 2007 04:28 PM |
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Edited by Lesij at 16:28, 01 May 2007.
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Succubus mistress for me...
A shooter that has decent health, can deter other shooters from attacking her, has ability that wreaks havoc to 3 (the last shot is too weak to be ever useful) of the enemy's creatures, has average initiative of 10 (well at least better than fortress with their 9 initiative shooters), what more can I ask for?
Errr u forget to add that she is a gorgeous female ...
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Sanyu
Known Hero
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posted May 01, 2007 04:29 PM |
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Quote:
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Succubus mistress for me...
A shooter that has decent health, can deter other shooters from attacking her, has ability that wreaks havoc to 3 (the last shot is too weak to be ever useful) of the enemy's creatures, has average initiative of 10 (well at least better than fortress with their 9 initiative shooters), what more can I ask for?
Errr u forget to add that she is a gorgeous female ...
At the age of sixteen i doubt that is an appropriate thing for me to say...
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Lesij
Famous Hero
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posted May 01, 2007 06:31 PM |
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Edited by Lesij at 18:31, 01 May 2007.
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I'm 15 and i did say that!
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted May 02, 2007 02:31 AM |
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I prefer the succubus mistresses, as chain shot and gating can help immensly.
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Bombur
Known Hero
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posted July 14, 2007 04:35 PM |
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Edited by Bombur at 16:48, 14 Jul 2007.
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My vote goes to master hunters.They have a low defense for level 3 but compensate with the damage.if you block them with unicorns or treants and an enemy flyer comes close they will tear him to shreds.
Fire elemental-I like their high damage so they come in second place.
Titans-they have low hit points which is defavoring for them.Although having high damage they can get killed quickly for a level 7.Do not put Rakshashas next to them because the enemy hero might cast frenzy on them.
Succubus mistress-Have a good defense for a shooter and don't die easily.I'd put them on 3rd place.They are in every way a ranged creature.Their shot hits more enemies,and have ranged retaliation.
marksman-The unit is well worth protecting and blessing.when fighting haven you might cast haste on them to avoid a battle dive from the griffins and keep them close to squires.
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