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Darkmyth_Miura
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posted October 25, 2001 06:34 AM |
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Poll Question:
Should I try to become a moderator or not?
Accepting responsibilities are tough. I know. I haven't typed anything in the community for a long long time and I figured that I should pay more attention to this community. I wold especially like Valeriy to respond to this post and any other suggestions will be appreciated. I am thinking on whether I should try to become a moderator of Heroes Community. I wanted to become moderator a few months ago but that soon faded because I was jammed with lots of other things to do and couldn't hold up to type anything in the community. Well, my current leadership status is this: I am the leader of 6 different clans, spread out on different games. I own 2 clans jointly with my two best friends (they help me a lot considering all the stuff I have to do and I'd like to thank them) and I gave one of my clans to one of my friends, so now it's 5 clans. I type up my own letters and bulletins for these clans and make up my own websites. I sometimes help out other clans with their websites, such as www.xenoguild.homestead.com. I know that this community is VERY different from any clan but I figure I should at least participate in it as much as I can, and being a moderator doesn't sound so bad. I am really good with originizing and with setting up events and such, which I think will help me if I become a moderator. I just realized that I am bragging too much, so I'll stop here. I'm not perfect, but I think I'm good enough to be a moderator, but I don't want to be moderator if no one wants me to be one. I'm perfectly fine with the position I have now, but I would like to expand that. Any suggestions will be appreciated, even if you want to say I'm bad or shouldn't be a moderator. I want to thank beforehand the people who thinks I can be a good moderator. But anything else would be good too.
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Frenzie
Adventuring Hero
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posted October 25, 2001 08:39 AM |
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How can you try and be a moderator?
Arent moderators chosen for their merits and behaviour on the board?
How would you be going about trying this?
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Kruel
Adventuring Hero
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posted October 25, 2001 09:05 AM |
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and you're VERY proud...
well i don't know you at all, but from the only things i can see here, i don't think it's a good idea. You seem to be very proud (i'm doing this, and i'm doing this, and i'm great and blablabla) and mostly interested in the prestige and fame you could get from it. I think if a moderator was needed, which i don't beleive is the case, this post would be a reason good enough for not choosing you. A moderator should be chosen because he is here often, he makes posts of decent quality, and keeps polite and respectful of others. He souldn't have to ask "do you want me to be your moderator", or at least not before this position has been offered to him, saying "look i have tons of responsabilities elsewhere, support me". And btw i'm pretty sure most people here don't care at all if you wanna try or not to become a moderator...
I am myself the administrator of the french heroes 3 & 4 forums on www.archangelcastle.com, and i think there's some qualities needed to become a moderator :
* being on the forum often. I've not been registered on this forum for a long while (about 3 month), but i'm pretty sure it's the first post i see from you.
* being as wise as one can be. this i don't know about you.
* being respectful. same here.
* being humble. this you really don't seem to be.
Only my opinion.
Kruel
btw, i had a lot of fun seeing your profile and the 3rd person biography 
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Valeriy
Mage of the Land
Naughty, Naughty Valeriy
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posted October 25, 2001 09:09 AM |
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Darkmyth_Miura,
Assisting existing moderators will get you there if you've got the desire to become a moderator yourself. If you are really doing it for the sake of the board, you won't need the title. If you are not sure how to assist, just ask the moderators, they are often glad to have an apprentice. By working with a moderator you will also get the feel of a job, while making no obligations, so in a way it's a trial of whether it suits you.
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Be an example of what you want to see on HC and in the world.
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Hexa
Responsible
Legendary Hero
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posted October 25, 2001 09:15 AM |
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Darkmyth_Miura
Everybody that makes such a thread to explain "in lenght" why he should be a mod ... actually proves he shouldn't be one!@
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Shae_Trielle
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Famous Hero
of Heroes
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posted October 25, 2001 12:36 PM |
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Go easy on the poor guy!
God, all he wants to do is try and help out! A few weeks ago the board was crying out for more help. Darkmyth puts up his hand and makes a post stating his credentials and organizational abilities and you all run about calling him big headed and poorly suited!
I won't state my stance on his application, because it's not my position to do so. But don't forget, you don't necessarily have to be an entrenched poster to be eligible for a Moderating position. I'm not sure how Rogue and Angelspit came to be, but their commitments were obviously impressive enough for Val to have them watch over us and help us all out.
That Darkmyth would like to lend a helping hand is nothing to be scoffed at, lol. We all harbour some desire to be Moderators someday. You're just all to afraid to admit it, unlike the poor guy here.
When was the last time any of YOU bothered to help out?
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Hexa
Responsible
Legendary Hero
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posted October 25, 2001 12:42 PM |
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Well Shae I just did ... read Hexa's Quest...
But on the other hand your right. I for one didn't even bother to read the previous replies made on this thread before I responded....I have a bussy job You know....
If I had read these post I might have just said the opposite ... to be stuburn.
LOL
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Sha_Men
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posted October 25, 2001 12:46 PM |
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How Angelspit/Rogue came moderators...
I have my theory...
Angelspit fall from sky and Val saved him so in gratitude Angelspit took mod job as his own.
Rogue was trying to rob Val's paypal account but was catched on the act. Because everybody knows how much money there is in that account, Val felt sorry for Rogue and offered him job.
Should Darkmyth run for moderator?
I think it's the same he would ask should he run for president of his country. I don't know him so I don't know if he's qualified for such a job. And BTW I don't vote.
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Shae_Trielle
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posted October 25, 2001 12:57 PM |
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LOL Sha
So even if he was qualified and you did know him, you still wouldn't vote for him anyway.
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angelspit
Famous Hero
Warrior of the Heavens
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posted October 25, 2001 02:50 PM |
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Angelspit fall from sky and Val saved him so in gratitude Angelspit took mod job as his own.
Actually, the real job description was mop job, but I was not allowed to say so back then. As for Rogue, I needed someone to clean that messy bathroom next to the Tavern. I told him he would meet a lot of girls.
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rogue
Promising
Famous Hero
Prosecutors Will Be Shoplifted
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posted October 25, 2001 05:30 PM |
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As for Rogue, I needed someone to clean that messy bathroom next to the Tavern. I told him he would meet a lot of girls.
...and it was all a lie!!
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Kruel
Adventuring Hero
Gropabo
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posted October 25, 2001 06:07 PM |
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well...
i'm sorry if i've been a bit rude, it was 3am when posted this and i was kinda drunk lol. Though i still think what i've written (even if i could have said it differently, and i really had a lot of fun viewing the profile .
The main question is does he want to do this to really help out or to have a nice "moderator" written beside his name ?
I'm sorry to be so careful but i had this problem on my own community to see people crying out they wanted to become mods and finally not doing their job once they were, even sometimes abusing of their powers. So now if i need a new moderator i want someone i really know is concerned about the community, and not someone coming from nowhere and saying "hey ! i wanna become a moderator".
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you don't necessarily have to be an entrenched poster to be eligible for a Moderating position.
well i think the main characteristic needed for a moderator is, maybe not to post a lot, but at least to be here very often (once a day in a normal period is what i consider a minimum) to watch out what's happening, and to have some extra time for cleaning/organizing forums.
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When was the last time any of YOU bothered to help out?
well i never helped here myself, being cowebmaster and community admin for archangelcastle is far enough work thanks. But so what ? Nobody has to sign a paper saying he's gonna help when he registers. I recognize all the work done by admins/mods/webs etc. (i am in a good position to know what it is  ), but that's the main idea of non-commercial websites that a few people give their time and efforts for the others. Those who can help do it, those who can't don't. I like to come here cause most people are cool, some discussions are pretty interesting, and, also, i may get some ideas for my own website . My only doubt was to know if this "poor guy" as you call him really wanted to help or was just looking for a title.
Kruel
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Milena
Responsible
Supreme Hero
in supreme disgrace
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posted October 25, 2001 06:55 PM |
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My opinion
You already know how I feel for mods, don't you.
I can say only one thing here. One must be crazy to volunteer for the position. And a mod has to be a very reasonable and sane person.
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RMS
Responsible
Legendary Hero
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posted October 25, 2001 11:50 PM |
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...hmm, sounds nice that you're interested, but I do somewhat question your motives...and are you sure that you would be able to spend the tmie required for at least mediocre moderating (ok, so I'm a below average moderator, so what? ) because as it seems to me, you already have many responsibilities and priorities. Would you be able to give up even more time to fit this into your schedule? Also, I have nothing against you, but as far as I know, it indeed has been quite a while since you've posted. Thats not necessarily a bad thing, but I barely recall who you are, and I figured it might be nice to hang around for a while and get used to things again
...not to mention the fact that you'de have to deal with knowing that you're mainly just a janitor, cleaning up the messes left over by everyone else
...oh, and I don't know about you, but I just feel that the big, fat, awkward and overbearing MODERATOR under the avatar looks quite annoying, and is ugly...but I supose I for one can still deal with it
...if you do want an "assistant moderation" job however, I'de consider your offer if that suits you fine
...and no, I don't feel that you necessarily have to be a very reasonable and sensible person...you can also be be crazy and insane. Take me for instance, I'm probably more of the latter, lol
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Darkmyth_Miura
Adventuring Hero
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posted October 26, 2001 03:55 AM |
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THE REAL REASON (sorry for not telling u guys earlier, but I wanna see how u act)
Thanks, you really didn't give me any suggestions, but that was a nice heated debate. And this is not an issue on how proud I am, I don't have to be moderator. Besides, it's not that important anyways. O, and, ya, I didn't post like loads of posts, but IF I WAS to be a moderator, I would put more of an effort into it. But I'm not, so I'm not showing anything right now. It's like "what's the point?" Also, why would anybody think I want a title? I just like doing stuff. You know: organizing, planning things. I'm just that kind of guy. I like to do stuff (why you think I took the job of leading and organizing clans?). I'm not insulting anyone, I tend not to get involved in clan or community governments with ONE LEADER, well, mainly because I feel it's not right. A government with a supreme leader is not a good government for me, mainly because I think that most leaders (and the moderators)tend to be a tyrant and take advantage of their powers. This is why I gave up all my 5 clans a while ago. I just think that it's cool that u guys have something to say (even if you are insulting me but heh, I'm not in a pissy mood today). O, and, to tell the truth, this thread was not because I wanted to be moderator. It's because of my government class survey: WHICH WAS ACTUALLY "IS POLITICAL PROPOGANDA SO EASY?". I'm supposed to run for something and see how people would react to that, it should bring out what's the best way to get into office. I didn't feel like doing it in REAL life, too many people running aorund to go ask, so I thought it'll be cool to do it on the community. And the thing I learned from this survey is: *NOTE: I will be writing what most of you said down. I will also make note of this community government.
1) Majority of the people are somewhat heartless towards people who show eagerness to participate in government and are very sarcastic (sarcastic as in a way to insult or harm the person running) towards the person running. i.e. I gathered these quotes from these people:
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Darkmyth_Miura
Everybody that makes such a thread to explain "in lenght" (and it's spelled L E N G T H, not lenght; just something you might wanna watch out for) why he should be a mod ... actually proves he shouldn't be one!@
2) People tend to root for the underdog. Being "too proud" (cough*) obviously doesn't work to win people over. But one thing to notice, especially for Kruel, who noted that I'm too proud, people who are NOT what you call "proud" cannot display their true potential and CAN NEVER step up the ladder in life or politics. In simple words, if you don't have any "proudness," you'll live with your parents for the rest of your life and stuff your talentless face with your mom's crabcakes (this example is a bit extreme, but you get the idea). The reason that I was so-called "proud" was not because I want to "just show off," but because I have to show some of ya I AT LEAST HAVE THE EXPERIENCE TO be a moderator. If I didn't say any of that junk, you can't judge on me and I won't have any source of proof to show that I am able to be a moderator. I mean I would show it personally in the community, but first, I had no time for it in the last millenium to really show anything in this commuinity. I have to bring in other sources to show this. Take Bush for example (REALLY BAD EXAMPLE, BUT WHAT CAN I SAY?). Even Bill
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3) Asking to be a moderator brings out the dirt in all the other standing moderators (which I find pretty funny, especially with all that bathroom cleaning .
4) Criticism can hurt, but I barely scratched the surface.
And thanx for helping out. Appreciate it.
P.S. I think what someone said is right... everybody does want to be soemone important, they just won't admit it.
P.S.S. Just to make this simple for the lazy people... I'm don't actually want to be a moderator, I just want to see how people would react. I mean comon, who would be desperate enough to post something just because he wants to be a moderator? One interesting thing I want to ask: Why didn't you think I can make this decision on being a moderator on my own? I exaggerated my eagerness, but it is cool to see how many people would support this eagerness and how many people won't. And thanx Shae_Trielle for defending me, it was really nice of you. O, and, this post did make me start to rally think on whether I want to be a moderator or not. I decided that it would be nice to be a moderator, and I'm more free now, so it'll be cool to do some new stuff for a change.
P.S.S.S. I began to think that maybe these moderators and Valeriy may be too bossy? I'm going to start a new post sometimes asking whether people want to start like a council to check and balance the moderators and such. It's a long stretch, but challenges are cool. I think that if someone wants to be a moderator, they shouldn't have another moderator to make them one, since moderators ARE different people and their opinions are overall biased (leaning towards a side).
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU THAT RESPONDED TO THIS POST. THE NEW POST WILL BE "SHOULD WE START A COUNCIL?"
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Darkmyth_Miura
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posted October 26, 2001 04:17 AM |
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O AND WHAT IS SAID ABOUT moderators being too bossy, I SAID MAYBE (MAYBE*). I DO NOT have anything AGAINST moderators. I think most of them are great people (especially RMS, he is really reasonable and not judgmental, unlike most people). I am just stating that maybe the "hierarchy" (or government positions; reagarding leaders and such) in the community is a bit too strong. I think the powers that the moderators and especially what the leader has may be too much, since there is no way for all the REGULAR members of this community to participate or have any say what to do with the community. I mean, they CAN post posts and state their opinions, but, it is the MODERATORS AND THE LEADER'S decision whether to believe the person or not. Sometimes it's good, but sometimes it's not. People are different, and just having a few people making the decisions can't apply to the mass of the people. Just think... there are 939 members in this community, and only about 5 or 6 are incharge?
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RMS
Responsible
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posted October 26, 2001 04:42 AM |
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lol, RotFLMFAS lol 
You just made my day. This was hilarious! lol
Wow, actually this kinda reminds me somewhat of the way I used to write. You know, how when once in a while you come by a few pieces of work you've completed a year ago, or earlier than that, and you wonder what is this junk??? ...hehe, well its not so much that you sounded directly offensive, crude, or immature, but although in some senses it also reflects a higher mentality, it does seem like someone who's kinda young wrote it...but unless my memory fails me, you're much older than am I
...maybe its the structure , or the vocabulary...or it could simply be how you presented it.
Anyway, thats not very important. Please excuse me for posting that
Hehe, well I just wanted to say that you raised a really funny question. Is political propaganda easy?? lol, what a silly question. Of course not, not unless you somehow create your own nation and fill it with a bunch of dopes. You have a wide scale of people to reach, and you have to get to them and touch them in the correct way, to win them over. However, as in every situation, you never get everything. You have to pick and choose. Would you reather have this group ro that one? The important thing is trying to get as many as possible, while still maintaining your own views and beliefs...
But, what you said is also in a way a bit outrageous, in a satiric fashion. I mean, what is this? Are we, the "authority" oppressing you all? I mean if anyone feels that any of our actions are unjustified, please speak up and say so.
I'm not sure if I did or not, but if I see it correctly, I did not offend you in any manner whatsoever, no did I attempt to. Neither did Val, so I don't see what you're griping about. I'm always yelled at for steroetyping, despite my efforts not to. However, your words are quite offensive and determining what is not your right to determine. I agree that everyone should have pride- pride for themselves, their accomplishments, pride for others, for their nation, and for everything. However, just because one does not flaunt it daily, and show off as much as poissible, does not mean they have no self-esteem nor any pride in anything whatsoever.
Truly, I do not know if your main point is that you do not like people here in general or what, or you despise all of us that hold the authority here to clean out the bathroom stalls. Maybe you have noticed, but generally speaking, often I am not exactly the most serious person you may encounter, and I don't try to get on everyone's bad side. You however seem to be trying to gather together those of lowly standing (if anyone here really fits that description) and then turning your back to the rest, sticking out your tongue at us on your way. Of course you have your limited right to free speech, as does everyone else, but maybe you're the one abusing your priveledges?
Maybe you do not deem us qualified for the positions that we fill, but as long as we feel that we are, that’s all that matters to us. Could you please point out the flaws in our system, or in our character that you do not like? Perhaps if you give us a clue, it might help to alleviate your overbearing pains. I truly do not understand you. What is there to check? There is no need for balanced. We are essentially all at the same level here. What would make you say that there is a huge tremendous gap here between people here? We accept and even welcome challenges. However, I doubt this will ever get by, even by the smallest of imaginable margins. There is something called an administrator, and that is the person who creates the board, changes it, fixes it up, pays for it, and therefore I see the right for him to run the board and decide who should help. In addition, has anyone made a case about any moderators here? If anyone wishes me to resign my post, I would gladly do so, for the good of the community.
…I’d say more, but I have to go to sleep not, so I’ll continue this tomorrow if need be...I will conclude my defense, and if i need to, just wait until I move on the offense
...as its said, the best defense is most often a good offense
...oh, and one more thing: don't even think about bad-mouthing our president!
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Lith-Maethor
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posted October 26, 2001 04:49 AM |
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...um...RMS, buddy...
...you are getting out of character... that almost sounded ...deep and thoughtfull.... wow... I mean, wow...
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Darkmyth_Miura
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posted October 26, 2001 05:55 AM |
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YOUR DEFENSE? What you mean your defense? You have nothing to defend youself for. I didn't condemn you or in anyway say that you're bad. IN FACT, I liked ESPECIALLY what you said. You seem like one of those people who actually have a mind. But why did you have to USE THAT AS a "defense?" IT just came back and insulted me. I'm not one of those people who gets pissed easily, but I'm not someone who just takes in whatever insult someone else throws at me and pretend nothing happened. You insulted me indirectly, and in a way personally. I felt that I said soemthing good about you, but you just came back and made a rude comment on my remarks. I don't really know how it offended me, but when I read what you said something in me just clicked. And a few things I want to say to your last post:
1) I DON"T HATE THIS COMMUNITY OR ANYONE IN IT. I AM BASICALLY STATING how this community can improve. I just don't think that this community should be centered around where moderators and leaders should make all the decisions. I just think that some moderators and leaders tend to think "over-the-head" about themselves and not listen to SOME (not all)of the people's opinions. My friend told me that he mentioned something in this community but the moderators said it was "stupid" or something. I forgot. I don't have a good memory either . Maybe if this community was more of a democracy, where the decisions of the community are decided by the masses, not by the individual. And where did you get oppression? (which is not the right word to use, even for what I said) I just said that people are biased and just a small group of people making decisions may not be the best thing to do. I didn't say anyhting about this community being an autocracy.
2) Did you regard what I said as stupid? Childlike? These words did not describe my tone of voice. I think you seriously misunderstood what I said, maybe because you're tired. But sometimes, you need to know the right words to use. If you are analyzing something in an essay and then you use the wrong words to describe it, you get a bad grade for it (just as an example). And ya, I am speaking more casually (maybe that's where you got the impression of a child), but if you want I can make things very confusing for you. And you're right, the BEST defense is an offense.
3) Qualified? Of course you ar all qualified. If you aren't, then why is this community still existing? I'm just saying that maybe you should listen to other people's opinions more and take it into consideration. This is another misunderstanding. When you said "I don't understand you," I think you're right, but I don't think it's really much of my problem as it is yours. I DON"T MEAN to say our stupid and can't understand English or something (in fact, I said you're smart), but you really need to think about what you say and what you read from other people. Most people don't bother, and that causes lots of problems. I don't turn my back on people unless I have no choice but to do so. I am definitely NOT turning against you and Valeriy. Especially Valeriy, who I think is a great person. I'm just stating my opinion, and I think at least you should show some mutual respect for it. Of course free speech is an oxymoron, but the limits are small, and I definitely did not cross the limit line. I am just stating what I think is right, and if you think it's wrong, fine... but don't insult what I've said. I don't mean to say all these things about what you'd said, but you really need to think aobut what I said and think about what you said in response. Balance and check is the system used in the United States. It's like separate branches of government. I'm just saying that maybe this community should use some democratic form of control. I understand that Valeriy pays and started this place, and I have no objection to him being a leader, but he is one person, and sometimes it's better to have an opposite form of opinion (which is what makes a government work), just like political parties.
P.S. I didn't say that Bush was a bad example as an insult. I'm am stating that he is simply a bad example for what I am saying.
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Darkmyth_Miura
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posted October 26, 2001 05:57 AM |
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and I cn't do anything about the assignment question, whether how silly it is
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