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posted July 04, 2007 11:05 AM |
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Music in todays society
The music in todays society has been changed very much from what there was in the 60's, 70's, 80's or 90's, or even back before the 1950's.
But the question is has this change in music been a positive influence or negative influence on todays society.
New music genres such as emo, goth, death metal etc are sorta recent, and some of them have made new social groups, like some social groups we may call emos, who wear tight black jeans, and have a haircut where there hair is combed over one eye and there hair is black and all that, or goths who might wear shoes with spikes, have black hair, wear makeup, and wear black cloths and listen to goth music.
The thing is, have these kinds of music been a negative influence on todays society or a positive one?
Some may argue with this, saying it is positive, and others might say it is a negative impact, but the social groups which may have been created by these types of music will be here, maybe for a short time, or maybe for a long time, who knows, but they are getting more popular each day.
Now with the 1960's and 1970's, some may say that music had a negative impact, because of all the hippies and everything, but for me, the 1970's was a good year.
Of course, I was not around back then, but some of my favourite music was, and one of those bands was Tangerine Dream.
In the 1960's, from some youtube video that I saw, the band seemed to be pretty hippieish, but they quickly changed from that, and started developing good music, in my opinion.
Rock was also pretty popular back then as well, and that definitely changed the society and had some impact with social groups back then.
So do you think that the music we have today, is having a positive or negative impact on today's society?
Let's discuss this 
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posted July 04, 2007 11:21 AM |
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BEEP BEEP American point of view!!!
Well the times were different.
60's was an interesting year for music.
Draft days
The wars.
Peace.
Love.
60's portayed alot of what was going on.
Many diferent songs.
Love songs & poets.
Drugs.
Alot of hippes were about freedom.
Peace love.
Also freedom had free sex & drugs which really hut them
Flowers in your hair & so much freedom of peace.
Alot of songs about the war.
Soldies going into war.
Prejudice.
Politics
COmentaries.
Protests.
There were many protests & songs about the war in that aspect
So much.
Many stories of real life.
Shootings, leaders etc.
So much action of protesting speeches & songs were created.
got to remember 70's was the yr where alot of drugs was happening as well.
Disco fever  .
Many studios for the disco dance fever .
Remember disco died with Studio54 when they closed it down
80's you got the punk music where everyone loved the mohawks & 80's accent.It was getting with more Heavy metal to some drunken crazy songs.
Many good songs.
Rap was becoming more popular in the late 80's as well as ending of Punk rock more then in the mid 80's
Many changes in the 90's.
Rap has gotten big.
Wannabe rappers,gang rap.
Also real stories that seems harsh but it's really true.
Yes the beat was better back then, then now 
Many styles of music was coming to life.
Techo, Trance was getting bigger.
Goth music was getting noticed more.
NEW styles were being created.
Rap is not as big in the new era as it was in the 90's
Every era has changes in accent to looks.
Remember you couldnt swear back in the old days lol.
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posted July 04, 2007 11:24 AM |
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Nice post Aculias, and thanks for responding
I find that in the 1980's, Electronic music was pretty popular.
Most of the good Electronic music and Electronic bands were from the 1980's.
Jean Michel Jarre, Tangerine Dream, Software, Robert Schroeder, all had there best songs in the 1980's.
I also find that Rap is getting more popular nowadays, then it was back in the 90's.
Bone Thugz n Harmony and 3-6 Mafia are pretty popular rap groups.
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posted July 04, 2007 11:26 AM |
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They were from the early 90's .
It was HUGH back in America.
Maybe dif tasted in Australia.
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posted July 05, 2007 03:32 AM |
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Well rap, in my opinion, was not too popular in Australia in the 90's.
However, as Rap developed a bit more, it started to become a little more popular in Australia, but at the moment, it is more popular, and probably will always be, in America, since most of the rappers are there.
And as for my first post, I am not bashing emo's or whatever, I am using them as an example, as well as Goths and Hippies and all that, just saying this in case you think I am bashing them
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posted July 05, 2007 12:53 PM |
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Well rap, in my opinion, was not too popular in Australia in the 90's.
However, as Rap developed a bit more, it started to become a little more popular in Australia, but at the moment, it is more popular, and probably will always be, in America, since most of the rappers are there.
I agree, especially with bands such as the Hilltop Hoods increasing the popularity of the Australian rap scene. One thing about Aussie rappers is that they prefer messages of partying, drinking, politics childhood and rapping in general rather than pimping and crime that is perceived in American rap music. It's like we're rapping a completely different language.
Another thing I have noticed is that popular song themes such as childhood trauma, war, politics and love are still proven song ideas today. Furthermore, the punk scene is as politically charged as it ever was.
One thing I dislike, though, is that sometimes music glorifies violence and rape, which is why I'll never buy a Cannibal Corpse CD.
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posted July 05, 2007 12:58 PM |
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Couldn't agree more
Couldn't agree more with you Trogdor.
I too have noticed that the American Rap videos have more drugs and pimping then us Australians do.
But, there are not enough Australian Rappers out here to determine if there is much difference.
Sure Hilltop Hoods might be one, but there are not many other "well known" rappers here in Australia, since most of them are in America.
And yeah, most songs these days have stuff like love, violence, racism, war etc etc, and that is why people can relate with them, and that is why they are popular.
I bet if I was to make a song right now that included lyrics, but did not include any of the other stuff, like love, violence, racism, war etc etc, it would not be as popular as if I had included lyrics incorporating those things.
Music which is giving the impression that violence, rape, murder and all that is a good thing to do, seriously should be taken off the shelves and thrown in the garbage.
We don't need that kind of stuff polluting our ears, and we do not need people getting the impression that those things are good to do, and are the right thing to do, and then they do it, and many people are affected, and someone may even be killed.
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posted July 06, 2007 02:58 AM |
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posted July 06, 2007 09:10 AM |
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There isn't a taboo that has been broken through music. If you look on Wikipedia there's many articles of infamous musicians and songs containing taboo lyric concepts. Try looking up 'shock rock' or 'paedophilia and child abuse in songs' and there's some controversial stuff there.
I also read up an article on a guy named GG Allin, who used to sing songs that glorify taboo subjects such as suicide and paedophilia, as well as defecating on stage, receiving oral sex from female fans and performing entire concerts naked. I've never heard any of his and after reading that article I think he took things way too seriously.
There was a grindcore band with similar controversial songs whose band name I won't mention here (because of obvious offensive language) and probably something I wouldn't listen to either. There's too much controversy in the music industry.
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posted July 06, 2007 09:25 AM |
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One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that technology was extremely influential during the 60's and into the 70's. During a short 5-10 year period you can hear a huge difference in the quality of instruments and recording. And a huge amount of the experimentation being done during that era was entirely due to advances in electronics that allowed for it. So people were starting with a clean slate and experimenting to see what they could do with all the new technologies.
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posted July 06, 2007 09:33 AM |
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Thats because this thread turned into an international thread like most of them do.
I Dont care for this thread anymore
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posted July 07, 2007 08:26 AM |
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You've become oh so shallow, Peculias.
As for techno and electronic music (the stuff Will listens too), as the majority of these songs are instrumental, it proves sometimes having no message at all is better than promoting negativity as many other genres can attest. In fact I'd rather listen to a robot speak than a Cookie Monster wannabe.
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posted July 07, 2007 08:36 AM |
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yep, gotta agree with you here Trogdor.
all what you said in the post above is true
lol about the robot and the cookie monster wannabe
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posted July 07, 2007 10:07 PM |
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The thing is, have these kinds of music been a negative influence on todays society or a positive one?
I was born in the early 70's, and a lot of the 70's music I really like, as well as other genres of the past and the present.
While I can and will listen to just about anything,everything from opera to "death" metal (which if you look around hard enough you CAN find death metal you can not only understand, but it is actually not too bad to listen to) except for a large majority of rap (Just about all of it is crap in my opinion and the few things that I do like are old school style rap, not this gangsta wanna be psudo "music") and country music, I mainly listen to Gothic, ethereal, shoe gaze, and industrial music.
However, I think music of ANY genre can be both negative and postive regardless of the year it comes from.
I guess it depends on who's doing the singing and how an individual person interprets the music and lyrics of a song.
**shrugs**
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posted July 08, 2007 02:49 AM |
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Ah Traughter how misguided you are.
Try malking sense for once
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posted July 08, 2007 03:42 AM |
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Music is definitely a big influence. IMO, rap is crap (hehe, rap is crap...). Some of it is really bad, like what Trogdor said, glorifying violence, etc. But not all of it.
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posted July 08, 2007 04:27 AM |
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Actually most of what Traughter said on here is BS.
He dont even know what he is talking about.
I can ask him to explain rap but he wouldnt know what he is talking about when he does anyways.
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william
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posted July 08, 2007 05:10 AM |
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Actually Aculias, most of what Trogdor said is true.
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posted July 08, 2007 05:23 AM |
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About rap.
BS lol.
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posted July 08, 2007 05:23 AM |
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okay, exactly how much rap do you listen to?
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