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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 25, 2007 09:51 PM |
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All you have to do is capture a few hundred cities and wait a few weeks. You may not get 50k of them but you'll still have enough 
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Nirual
Famous Hero
Imbued Ballista
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posted October 25, 2007 09:55 PM |
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I don't mean if it's uselful at all. I mean how it is usful COMPARED TO other shouts. So, 2000k units in army.. That mean a lot of cyclopses. A lot fast acting cyclopses is much better than some 2000k spell. And why would I strike some dragons when I can fear them.
Of course, any spell may be the best/useful in some scenario - when I say inferior I mean inferior: I don't mean "uselss than any other spell 100% of the time".
You found a way to convert every other stronghold unit into cyclops? Well, in that case it's obvious that Horde's Anger is pretty obsolete.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 25, 2007 10:01 PM |
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Hmm in a really long game you could get the goblin king to get ridiculous amounts of goblins if you do not lose them  Not that I'd ever start a game with that idea but it would be fun if it worked.
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Nirual
Famous Hero
Imbued Ballista
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posted October 25, 2007 10:44 PM |
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Goblin Support and the normal goblin growth already gives you quite an amount of goblins assuming you don't lose any of them.
Goblins have the largest weekly growth of all creatures (3 more than peasants, 5 more than skeletons) and a cheap booster building (+6, as opposed to peasants +5 and on par with skeletons), and you might even be able to aquire some more while creeping.
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feluniozbunio
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted October 25, 2007 11:00 PM |
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With your castle and one dwelling of each kind you got around 200 units per week. Hordes anger can grow big quite fast. Couple hundred of damage week 3 is quite a lot considering that you dont need any skill for it.
Goblin support is pathetic. Even if you play 2 months thats 7daysx8week=56 days = 56 goblins , pathetic. Same with gobo hero.
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Nirual
Famous Hero
Imbued Ballista
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posted October 25, 2007 11:05 PM |
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it's more than the amount of war dancers you can get... and equals another +7 to growth, and the goblins are free and (contrary to the ingame description) always upgraded unless you don't have any upgraded stacks or spare room.
...hmm, should be fun to abuse mentoring to get that perk (and Defend Us All) for other barbarian heroes
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Legendary_hero
Known Hero
Stronghold Warchief
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posted October 26, 2007 12:52 AM |
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And by the way who said that Battlecry is a dissapointment,I think that's the most useful warcry i mean a hero 20 lvl +10 atack to creatures with +1 speed.Well yeah it last for a turn but think what things you can do for that turn The Battle is desided in the first turn
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Jabarkas
Adventuring Hero
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posted October 26, 2007 07:34 AM |
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Goblin support is pathetic. Even if you play 2 months thats 7daysx8week=56 days = 56 goblins , pathetic. Same with gobo hero.
Well, Goblin Support is a pre-requisite for Brimstone Rain and Absolute Rage, which makes it to a pathetic ability that still have it uses. Kilghan, the Goblin-Hero, on the other hand is truly the worst Barbarian Hero. He is not even that valuable as secondary hero, since Recruitment is very weak perk considering the high growth rate of the early Stronghold units.
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roy-algriffin
Supreme Hero
Chocolate ice cream zealot
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posted October 26, 2007 08:14 AM |
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Recruitment is always good.
Kilghan is not neccasarily a weak secondary hero. Hr is however the one that starts and ends off worst. at about level 15 or so through as a secondary hero he can give you quite a bit of a contributment.
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feluniozbunio
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted October 26, 2007 09:20 AM |
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LoL you pple need to start playing the game. How often you have lvl 15 secondary?
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which makes it to a pathetic ability that still have it uses.
Every skill has its uses. Why to choose pathetic skill that has its uses?
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Jabarkas
Adventuring Hero
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posted October 26, 2007 09:29 AM |
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Every skill has its uses. Why to choose pathetic skill that has its uses?
For Absolute Rage...
Ok, to be serious. My point was mainly that Goblin Support is a too weak skill to take, where Triple Ballista + First Aid is far more tempting to take... however, I find +1 Gob/day still to be a better deal than Kilghans +X Gob/Week.
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Nirual
Famous Hero
Imbued Ballista
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posted October 26, 2007 10:10 AM |
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LoL you pple need to start playing the game. How often you have lvl 15 secondary?
Pretty often if you go for Mentoring...
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sdfx
Famous Hero
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posted October 26, 2007 12:23 PM |
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You found a way to convert every other stronghold unit into cyclops? Well, in that case it's obvious that Horde's Anger is pretty obsolete.
So, why do you think people were taking about 50k cyclopses?
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roy-algriffin
Supreme Hero
Chocolate ice cream zealot
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posted October 26, 2007 11:10 PM |
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I didnt actually say its likelythat he will be a good secondary hero. if anything i meant its nearly impossible for a secondary hero
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted October 27, 2007 05:47 PM |
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I'd like to add in a couple of minor things I noticed.
Barbarians don't get mana in a castle with a mage guild, only from the well.
Barbarians do get experience from spell shrines, 1000 for level 1 spell 2000 for level 2 etc.
Powerful blow kills war machines.
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Rip
Tavern Dweller
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posted October 27, 2007 11:59 PM |
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i love that experience from spell shrines, , maybe because i was so annoyed before when they gave me a spell from another school
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted October 28, 2007 01:19 AM |
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Barbarians also have no way whatsoever to resurrect their troops. The only way that I could possibly see is by adding Arch Angels to the army.
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted October 28, 2007 01:29 AM |
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted October 28, 2007 02:03 AM |
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I personally think the Shamans are a bit over powered, and the Goblins under.
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Rip
Tavern Dweller
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posted October 28, 2007 02:31 AM |
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talking about shamans... i played a MP and the oponent focused on the cyclopses in the begining leaving the shamans rage to rise and what do you know : spellpower of shamans (sky-chainlightning) doubled , so i cast it on those marksman... hehehe...
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