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2ndHero
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Floppy Slayer
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posted January 01, 2008 05:28 PM |
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Edited by 2ndHero at 16:42, 07 Jan 2008.
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User Campaign project, help needed.
Since Tales of Karador is on the finishing line, I think that there should be more user campaigns than just LotA and ToK.
So here is my idea:
Minotaurs want freedom, so they slay dark elves and free all minotaur slaves.(maybe too much like orc campaign in ToE)
Main Hero:
Gunnar
Biography:
Gunnar didn't die under the reckoning, he teleported to Ashan and found out that minotaurs were used as slaves, so he beginned his quest to free the Minotaurs. What he lacks in brains he makes up for in instinct.
Skills:
Basic Irresistible Magic, Basic Logistics, Aura of Swiftness
Spec:Swift Striker
Their town could be maybe recolored Fortress and primary magic shcools would be Dark and Destructive. I'm not sure which racial suits them best.
Creatures:
Tier 1: ?
Tier 2: Ogres
 (Final version of Ogre Warrior)
Ogre (Tier 2)
Abilities: Bash, Weakening Strike
Stats:
Attack 5
Defence 3
Damage 3 - 4
Iniative 12
Speed 5
Health 15
Cost 100
Ogre Warrior
Abilities: Bash, Strike and Return, Cursing Attack
Stats:
Attack 6
Defence 3
Damage 4 - 5
Iniative 12
Speed 5
Health 16
Cost 130
Ogre Mage
Abilities: Weakening Strike, Caster(Sorrow, Slow, Fire Trap)
Stats:
Attack 3
Defence 5
Damage 3 - 4
Iniative 13
Speed 5
Health 17
Mana:12
Cost 130
Tier 3: Minotaurs
Tier 4: Lizards
Lizard(Tier 4)
Abilities: Large Creature, Lizard Bite, Rider Charge
Stats:
Attack 7
Defence 7
Damage 7 - 11
Iniative 11
Speed 7
Health 45
Cost 350
Armoured Lizard
Abilities: Large Creature, Lizard Bite, Rider Charge, Armoured, Enraged
Attack 7
Defence 11
Damage 8 - 11
Iniative 12
Speed 7
Health 65
Cost 500
Berzerk Lizard
Abilities: Large Creature, Lizard Bite, Jousting, Battle Rage
Attack 12
Defence 8
Damage 11 - 13
Iniative 11
Speed 8
Health 50
Cost 500
Tier 5: Hydras
Tier 6: Golems
Rust Golem (Tier 6)
Abilities:
Mechanical
Magic-proof 50%
Double Attack
Stats:
Attack: 19
Defence:20
Damage:18-20
Iniative:8
Speed:5
Health:110
Mana:0
Shots:0
Cost:1550
Bronze Golem (Tier 6 upgrade)
Abilities:
Caster(Cleansing, Teleportation, Regeneration)
Mechanical
Magic-proof 75%
Mana Feed
Stats:
Attack: 20
Defence:29
Damage:18-25
Iniative:8
Speed:5
Health:155
Mana:24
Shots:0
Cost:1800
Chrome Golem (Tier 6 upgrade)
Abilities:
Mechanical
Immune to Magic
No Enemy Retaliation
Double Attack
Stats:
Attack: 28
Defence:20
Damage:25-30
Iniative:7
Speed:5
Health:130
Mana:0
Shots:0
Cost:1800
Tier 7 : Manticores
Manticore (Tier 7)
Abilities:Large Creature, Flyer, Cleave, Poisonous Attack, Lizard Bite
Attack 32
Defence 25
Damage 40 - 50
Iniative 11
Speed 7
Health 200
Cost 3100
Foul Manticore
Abilities:Large Creature, Flyer, Poisonous Attack, Acid Breath, Hexing Attack, Lizard Bite
Attack 35
Defence 28
Damage 47 - 50
Iniative 12
Speed 7
Health 215
Cost:3800
Brave Manticore
Abilities:Large Creature, Flyer, Cleave, Bravery, Aura of Bravery, Lizard Bite, Crippling Wound
Attack 30
Defence 36
Damage 38 - 48
Iniative 12
Speed 8
Health 250
Cost:3800
But I can only make textures and change heroes' and creatures' abilities, so I need help for adding new creatures, making maps, stats, storyline etc..
So feel free to post your ideas.
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Lesij
Famous Hero
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posted January 01, 2008 07:22 PM |
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I would rather see another faction with shatters and shouts and that matches minotaurs best.
I can help you with history and the storyline, if you want.
And it wouldn't be as orcs one...
It would be a bit elvish:
Minotaurs had their leader who didn't want to fight and was encouraging them to live in peace. His name was Uglath.
One day Uglath begged with his master a day free of work and went to Raelag to ask him for giving more rights to minotaurs. Raelag said, that he will reach the decission, and said to Uglath that he needs to come the next day.
But that very next day the leader was slained...
His nephew, who were very charismatic and quick-tempered made all minotaurs go to war versus the race of dark elves bringing lizards and Hydras go with him.
That's only the begining. If you don't like it- let me know I'll try harder...
About creatures, let's take all unrespecting creatures- another type of golems (maybe crystal and golden ones), another type of gobos, bears and wolves...
And that's all I think...
Now the speciality and we have the faction XD
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MrDragon
Supreme Hero
Eats people with Ketchup
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posted January 01, 2008 08:21 PM |
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I already found it ridiculous that Minotaurs were slaves to Dark Elves in the first place.
Heroes V minotaurs sound proud, honorable and far more powerful in direct physical combat then pansy elves.
My flavour opinion aside, I think its to much to base a whole faction on them.
Say they tag along with the orcs.
Orcs lay siege to a dark elf town and after leveling it find and set free its slaves who join their ranks, then a quest begins to save others and rally the minotaurs under the orcish banner.
Ofcourse that would be very Warcraft though.... but it just makes sense.
(Because Warcraft makes sense....gotte love those games...all 3 of em....not counting WoW for obvious reasons.)
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Mr.Dragon Factions in production.
Citadel: 7/7 creatures, 2/2 hero base classes. (complete, for now)
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Lesij
Famous Hero
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posted January 01, 2008 10:08 PM |
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Edited by Lesij at 22:09, 01 Jan 2008.
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Hey, let's be a bit creative!
Making another orcish campaign is not-so-funny.
And making release-the-slaves faction is a gret fun IMHO...
I think golems could be casters, with cleasining ofc.
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2ndHero
Famous Hero
Floppy Slayer
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posted January 02, 2008 10:54 AM |
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Edited by 2ndHero at 11:40, 02 Jan 2008.
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@Lesij: The story is nice, but we could maybe use old heroes like Darkstorm, Dace etc.. Golems would be nice and maybe green goblins could be cool.
@MrDragon: It would be boring to play with the orcs again, and what creature could the minotaurs replace?
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MPaBkaTa
Adventuring Hero
Cow lover
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posted January 02, 2008 11:10 AM |
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Maybe more light magic than dark.I somehow dont see the minotaur minds controling people.After years of slavery they must being slaves
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2ndHero
Famous Hero
Floppy Slayer
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posted January 02, 2008 11:38 AM |
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Edited by 2ndHero at 11:50, 02 Jan 2008.
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@MPaBkaTa: Light magic vs Dark magic, thats a tough one.
Here is the lizard without rider:
Here are some ideas for heroes:
All icons have to be made better.
Gunnar:
Biography:
Gunnar served first as a scout for the Dungeon Overlords, then as a guide and bodyguard to various high-ranking officials, before finally being granted command of a garrison force on the rugged Nighon borders. What he lacks in brains he makes up for in instinct.
Skills:
Basic Irresistible Magic, Basic Logistics, Aura of Swiftness
Spec:Swift Striker
Darkstorm:
Biography:
Darkstorm has proven time and again that any who challenge him meet a quick end. He continues to be a dangerous and powerful presence in this new world where his reputation precedes him like the dark clouds before a thunderstorm.
Skills:
Basic Irresistible Magic, Basic Attack, Cold Steel
Spec: Slave Driver(could be renamed Minotaur Leader)
Maddox:
Biography:
There is something to be said about the diligence of the minotaurs. Maddox was a smith, destined to forge axes for the rest of his life. Instead of accepting his fate, he studied magic at night until he was good enough to leave the forge and embark on a life of conquest.
Skills:
Basic Irresistible Magic, Basic Sorcery, Basic Dark or Light magic(I'm not sure yet)
Spec: Windrider or Mindreaver
Uvodd:
Biography:
In his youth, Uvodd rode the high seas aboard a pirate vessel, protecting it with his destructive magical powers. A tidal wave sunk his ship and nearly drowned him as well, but he beat the storm in the same way he defeats all his enemies - persistence.
Skills:
Basic Irresistible Magic, Basic Destructive Magic, Empowered Spells
Spec: Catalyst
Maybe too many of them.
Quote:
is nephew, who were very charismatic and quick-tempered made all minotaurs go to war versus the race of dark elves bringing lizards and Hydras go with him.
Why doesn't anyone have children, always just nephews.
It would be better if he would be his brother or son.
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Guarder
Supreme Hero
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posted January 02, 2008 11:41 AM |
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Why not take Gunnar from heroes 3. Instead of dying under the minotaurs
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2ndHero
Famous Hero
Floppy Slayer
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posted January 02, 2008 11:48 AM |
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Quote:
Why not take Gunnar from heroes 3. Instead of dying under the minotaurs
He would be better than Dace, thanks.
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Guarder
Supreme Hero
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posted January 02, 2008 12:18 PM |
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I must have been a litlle sleepy. I meant: Instead of Gunnar died under the reckoning, he had been teleported to Ashan and got angry when he found out that minotaurs was used as slaves, so he begin on a quest to free the Minotaurs
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2ndHero
Famous Hero
Floppy Slayer
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posted January 02, 2008 12:25 PM |
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Edited by 2ndHero at 18:52, 05 Jan 2008.
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I havent played H3, but still he is better hero to be included than Dace.
EDIT: Some ideas and pics of The Golem caster:
Bronze Golem (Tier 6 upgrade)
Abilities:
Caster(Cleansing, Teleportation, Regeneration)
Mechanical
Magic-proof 75%
Mana Feed
Stats:
Attack: 20
Defence:29
Damage:18-25
Iniative:8
Speed:5
Health:155
Mana:24
Shots:0
Cost:1800
(If someone has suggestions, post them)
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roy-algriffin
Supreme Hero
Chocolate ice cream zealot
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posted January 02, 2008 02:45 PM |
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Its wierd. Everyone is perfectly willing to undertake a mod that would take a lot of hard work and effort, And much time. But they cant bother to round up a few averages to create stats lol. Anyway stats are always difficult to judge until you beta-test.
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"Am i a demon? No im a priest of the light! THE BLOODY RED LIGHT"
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WarLore
Famous Hero
servant of urgash
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posted January 02, 2008 02:49 PM |
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wow,that lizard looks awesome
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A Nightmare from below.A hero from Within
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Guarder
Supreme Hero
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posted January 02, 2008 02:55 PM |
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Maybe change the skeleton(?) to something other.
Gunnar was a minotaur from Nighon(Land in Antigirach(spelled right?)) When the reckoning came(giant destruction of the planet) some escaped to h4 world(Axeoth) But Gunnar wasn't included in H4, so we(you) can make him that he was sent to Ashan and there he found out the fate of the minotaurs and want to free them from being slaves
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2ndHero
Famous Hero
Floppy Slayer
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posted January 02, 2008 03:04 PM |
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Lizard's and upgrades' stats and abilities:
Lizard(Tier 4)
Abilities: Large Creature, Lizard Bite, Rider Charge
Stats:
Attack 7
Defence 7
Damage 7 - 11
Iniative 11
Speed 7
Health 45
Armoured Lizard
Abilities: Large Creature, Lizard Bite, Rider Charge, Armoured, Enraged
Attack 7
Defence 11
Damage 8 - 11
Iniative 12
Speed 7
Health 65
Berzerk Lizard
Abilities: Large Creature, Lizard Bite, Jousting, Battle Rage
Attack 12
Defence 8
Damage 11 - 13
Iniative 11
Speed 8
Health 50
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Guarder
Supreme Hero
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posted January 02, 2008 03:08 PM |
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Manticore could be a good creature, i think. Upgrades could be called Scorpicore and......uh.....Lioncore
(The last one was a joke, if you didn't get it)
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2ndHero
Famous Hero
Floppy Slayer
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posted January 02, 2008 03:12 PM |
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Yes, but Manticores stats should be made better so it could be Tier 7 creature. Any suggestions how should it's upgrades look like?
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Guarder
Supreme Hero
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posted January 02, 2008 03:14 PM |
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Make one upgrade dark brown and one golden. That would fit, imo
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Carcity
Supreme Hero
Blind Sage
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posted January 02, 2008 03:47 PM |
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Edited by Carcity at 15:49, 02 Jan 2008.
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I think we maybe can take back the troglodytes from h3 and h4 and maybe the beholders to. here is how i thougt.
troglodyte (tier 1)
attack 1
defense 1
damage 1-2
initiative 5
speed 4
health 14
abilities enraged.
troglodyte warrior (tier 1 uppgrade)
attack 4
defense 3
damage 2-3
initiative 15
speed 6
health 15
abilities enraged and spear attack
troglodyte shaman (tier 1 alternate uppgrade)
Attack 3
defense 5
damage 1-3
initiative 15
speed 4
health 12
arrows 4
mana 15
spells (slow, weakness and vulnerability)
abilities shooter, caster and enraged
the new ability spear attack means that the creature can attack 1 tile away from the enemy creature and have no enemy relation.
the other creatures beholders hav I thougt like tier 3 creatures
beholder (tier 3)
attack 7
defense 7
damage 3- 7
initiative 14
speed 3
health 20
shoots 10
abilities Shotter, evil eye, no range penality
evil eye (tier 3 uppgrade)
attack 9
defense 8
damage 5-8
initiative 17
speed 4
health 24
shoots 10
abilities shooter, evil eye, no range penality and hexing attack
poison Eye (tier 3 alternate uppgrade)
attack 10
defense 9
damage 6-9
initiative 12
speed 8
health 26
shoots 8
abilities shooter, evil eye, no melee penality, poisonus attack and no enemy relation.
this was my idea hope you liked it. if it is something you want to change then feel free to do so. bye.
btw sorry for my english i am actually not from any english speaking country
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Guarder
Supreme Hero
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posted January 02, 2008 03:52 PM |
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Sounds good, but does we actualy know how to make new abilities? Also how should we make Beholder? There are some problems i think
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