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vesuvius
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Honor Above all Else
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posted February 06, 2008 01:11 AM |
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*** New Clans Season In March
On February 24th, the current Clan season will end, and a new Clan season begins on March 1st. A certain percentage of points will be carried over to the new clans, given to individual members of the clans themselves (should they choose to start a new clan without their old members). The clan system will be more activity-friendly since the original clan system was devised for 100's of active members. Also ToTE factions will be incorporated into the new system. It will still remain as 3 members to a clan.
The starter bonus points are as follows:
Each individual clan member gets 10% of the original points carried over with him to his new clan.
eg. Elit + Jinxer + Aragami form a new clan = 483/10 + 92/10 + 4/10 = 58 points starting bonus for the new clan.
Clan system is revised, some basic hints as to the new system:
All wins are 3 points, losses -1 point regardless of faction chosen -- Archenemies is double this amount.
9 Clan Factions
Angelic - Can Choose Haven town to start
Scholar - Can Choose Academy town to start
Naturist - Can Choose Sylvan town to start
Military - Can Choose Fortress town to start
Demonic - Can Choose Inferno town to start
Necroma - Can Choose Necropolis town to start
Dungeon - Can Choose Dungeon town to start
Chaotic - Can Choose Stronghold town to start
Rogue - Can pick map, but cannot select town to start
Clan Wars return: Victories against certain factions gain special artifacts that are mostly for prestige points and 'glitter' on your rankings on ToH main & clans.
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted February 06, 2008 01:17 AM |
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So rogue is always random? Too bad there are no teams, playing just one town is very limiting.
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yasmiel
Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
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posted February 06, 2008 01:21 AM |
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Does "can" mean you can go either selected faction OR random, or is it actually a MUST?
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted February 06, 2008 06:17 AM |
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All towns you can play random of course. But choosing an academy faction for example, allows you to pick academy town instead of random if you wish.
Also another question was asked 'why not artifacts as prizes where you'd get an actual artifact added to the map during play etc...' because the map editor is a lot more complicated, and not user-friendly, along with the synching errors etc... would make that option prohibitive and annoying for players.
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the_teacher
Supreme Hero
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posted February 06, 2008 01:19 PM |
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because the map editor is a lot more complicated, and not user-friendly, along with the synching errors etc... would make that option prohibitive and annoying for players.
it might be possible and would be fun, BUT... only if a third party player is designated to edit the map and send it to both players, ensuring that both will have same version, and, ofc, the one who makes the changes should have had some lil experience in mapmaking to not add some unexpected errors.
its harder to make "dirty" moves here (than H4, when ppl went, sometimes, too far,) due to the wonderful "checksum" feature.
would be fun as i mentioned above...but best is to be avoided.
h5 editor is not as user-friendly as h4's one used to be, but yet is more powerful if u understand the language and have tons of patience to check very very often, cause a missing coma can ruin 2 pages of code. scripts are working in MP despite of what they say( at least some of them, some are bugged for MP).
the new idea about clans is very good, giving to all the clans possibility to choose random over a single race to avoid boredom adn increase chances on a map where his clan race woudnt have much chances to win, more maps then to be played.
on the other hand, rogues will get fewer games than before, ppl are afraid of the dark and new. 80% players are 1, max 2 maps players, completelly against other options. i like the idea anyway.
have a nice day
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gmmari
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 07, 2008 07:38 PM |
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Thx vesuvius for the news !!
Any news about the final beetwen the top clan?
We will have this final or will be delayed in another time?
What type of rules in this tournament(map,player active and not..,sisytem of pairing..,how this superfinal works)?
Can you say more about this..?
(all clan player wait this particular moments that is top moment of a clan life.. thx again)
Sorry for my english but it's not my main language
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Kispagat
Famous Hero
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posted February 08, 2008 05:02 PM |
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Just one question to make some confusion:
What map will be played when two rogue clanmember fight each other?
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samiekl
Supreme Hero
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posted February 08, 2008 05:14 PM |
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Thats very easy. Either the opponents will NOT choose any map and meet somewhere and solve this problem in the kung-fu way, or, the alphabet rule will be considered.
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Kispagat
Famous Hero
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posted February 08, 2008 05:24 PM |
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Thats very easy. Either the opponents will NOT choose any map and meet somewhere and solve this problem in the kung-fu way, or, the alphabet rule will be considered.
Thats why you are the most creative dungeon player nowadays
Killing my rage-blooded orcs with various spells in your spellbook, I remember....
I just wanted to mention that this rule to allow rogue to choose map, maybe a little bit too optimistic.
In that sense I agree with The teacher, most people, including myself, plays most of their games in the same map.
I am coriuos what will be the outcome of this new rule.
I will try to convince gmmari to start a rogue clan and always pick HG.
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samiekl
Supreme Hero
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posted February 08, 2008 05:27 PM |
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Edited by samiekl at 17:32, 08 Feb 2008.
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I will try to convince gmmari to start a rogue clan and always pick HG.
No way, i propose banning the people who play only HG 
And by the way, if the rule of the alphabet will be considered, you'll have to change your name to something like AAAAAAAAAAKispagat
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Kispagat
Famous Hero
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posted February 08, 2008 05:41 PM |
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I will try to convince gmmari to start a rogue clan and always pick HG.
No way, i propose banning the people who play only HG
And by the way, if the rule of the alphabet will be considered, you'll have to change your name to something like AAAAAAAAAAKispagat
With S as Samiekl, you will always play on HG. At least you will learn it
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samiekl
Supreme Hero
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posted February 08, 2008 05:44 PM |
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I'll make a rogue clan and settle this in the kung-fu way. 
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted February 08, 2008 05:46 PM |
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Fun aside people who will play only one map don't expect me to accept too often
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samiekl
Supreme Hero
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posted February 08, 2008 05:48 PM |
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The fun part is that there can be inactive players in the new season too 
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted February 08, 2008 05:52 PM |
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Lol it could happen
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yasmiel
Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
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posted February 08, 2008 05:57 PM |
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i still need 3 mroe games to be able to join a clan  ..but perhaps theres a way out of it....
Who wants 3 1-minute wins?
J/k... i guess ill have to do this the hard way
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted February 08, 2008 06:03 PM |
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Play heritage of Deleb, short games
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Kispagat
Famous Hero
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posted February 08, 2008 06:04 PM |
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The fun part is that there can be inactive players in the new season too
I agree.
There is a chance that some players became inactive because the structure of the clan tournament was not clear enough.
For me, it was a big challenge to try to fight ourselves into the first 8 clans for the possible end of season tournament amongst best 8 clans.
I understand that in this level of activity no sense to play this tournament atm, even I am ready for it.
So for the future I think it would be a good idea to exactly tell to the people if there will be such a tournament at the end of the season or not.
And also if there will be a tournament, when.
I would also suggest to specify a shorter time period, like max 6 months, for this new season because this way each game is more exciting knowing there are not infinite games you can play in the season.
Maybe that could help to maintain activity of the players.
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samiekl
Supreme Hero
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posted February 08, 2008 06:22 PM |
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Now, just to be serious about it... i think the reason why the activity is so low is because experienced players dont play noobs. Hell, i've lost 100+ points to noobs (downgraded from legionnaire to baron) playing other factions and trying some dangerous things just to keep things balanced, but i dont play for points and maybe this has something to do about it. When a noob comes in toh and gets only "No, you dont have a clan, you are too noob for me" he'll just quit. So, unless you guys do something about it, its a closed circuit. Give them a chance, most of us here are adults, its just a game dammit.
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Kispagat
Famous Hero
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posted February 08, 2008 07:08 PM |
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Now, just to be serious about it... i think the reason why the activity is so low is because experienced players dont play noobs. Hell, i've lost 100+ points to noobs (downgraded from legionnaire to baron) playing other factions and trying some dangerous things just to keep things balanced, but i dont play for points and maybe this has something to do about it. When a noob comes in toh and gets only "No, you dont have a clan, you are too noob for me" he'll just quit. So, unless you guys do something about it, its a closed circuit. Give them a chance, most of us here are adults, its just a game dammit.
I am not sure that this not goes a bit off-topic, but let me tell you my toughts about it:
I joined toh in August 2007. I played on ubi.com before, and I had/have a rating around 2000.
In the first times I tried to get opponents from toh, but it was really hard. Most of them did not play with me, but at least I chatted with them a lot. Believe or not I learned a lot from these conversations, and also even I was a noob, toh players began to know me.
Later I was very lucky to have Al Killmore as the one with whom we played a lot. Since I learn quickly after first 5 terrible losses I had a win. And even now its -9...
Nowadays I am a lord, and I often get a question from a low rated player to play. And then I face the following question:
Do I really want to spend 3-8 hours to play for a game what is most probably will not be a challenge? I really like to play with an opponent who can beat me.
And I tell you honestly I usually say no. But thats not because of rating, or clan points, its just the impression of wasting time.
In one hand I accept that this could be a bad approach, and could disappoint lower ranked players, but they need to prove worthy to play with Elit for example.
Why anyone think that if he learns the moves on the chessboard next day could challenge Kasparov?
So I suggest to the newcomers to play as many games as possible, and try to learn from the rare games when they face a biggun. The higher rank they have the problem becomes smaller. But thats the reason why you make rankings.
Since your reply was dedicated to me I wanted to give some answer, but as I checked your scoresheet, you are more experienced than me.
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