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yasmiel
Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
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posted February 08, 2008 07:13 PM |
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But suggestion "play as many as possible until you prove worthy" is quite limiting, since new players cant play games at all if 55 out of 57 active players refuse to play them. It would be reasonable not to play noobs in a community of hundreds+ ppl, but with very limited player base, activity with this aproach will never rise.
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diegis
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted February 08, 2008 07:17 PM |
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The new system clan points seems very fair to me. Depends what you want. Playing rogue it's now more accurate than previous time.
About ranking system, and playing noobs, we all know that everyone could be beaten by anyone...That's what I learned so far, and I'm telling you it's true. Everyone can do some mistakes at some points...
The reason we are here is too have fun, but not to wait 30 mins for 1 turn, LIKE i DO NOW...
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samiekl
Supreme Hero
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posted February 08, 2008 07:58 PM |
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Edited by samiekl at 20:05, 08 Feb 2008.
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Kispagat, i joined toh in August too, and just like you i had the luck to play with buxyrs at the beginning, from whom i learnt a lot (i needed to THINK on how am i gonna defeat him), although i didnt play multi before. Now, the thing is... who are those new ones gonna play and learn from if no one is willing to play them? I am not more experienced than you, in fact, i still consider myself a noob. But, unlike you, i didnt play just one faction and one map, i've tried them all. Plus... you now know that playing dungeon in HG is very hard. 
About wasting your time, i agree partially. I mean yeah, play sylvan in HG vs a new one is an absolute waste of time. But playing, i dunno, lets say necro, on, lets say, crap, any other map you DONT know, its not a waste of time.
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diegis
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted February 08, 2008 08:05 PM |
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hmmm...could be, but not always...when surprise is ... BIG 
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samiekl
Supreme Hero
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posted February 08, 2008 08:13 PM |
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hmmm...could be, but not always...when surprise is ... BIG
Well, i told you..
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted February 08, 2008 08:19 PM |
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In my early toh time I was lucky to have the help of buxyrs, destro and sq79. Did not play much with the last two but they sure were helpful and made my adapting easier. It's too bad they are not around now.
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attila
Known Hero
Young Warrior
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posted February 09, 2008 02:53 AM |
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ahh but destro23 is still around =D i actually just played with him a few days ago we have a save atm.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted February 09, 2008 03:02 AM |
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Nice  He's back after all.
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted February 09, 2008 03:17 AM |
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Remember that activity was low thanks to a snowty start with Homm5, (disconnections, bugs, slow transfer rates, etc...) I created homm5 ToH with the great anticipation of a bug free start haha (should have learned my lesson with the nasty homm4 beginnings). So I was rather optimistic, and made homm5 ToH Clans with the idea of as many as 100 clans actively playing.
So this 'revised' version is more realistic in the current activity levels.
About rogue vs rogue, either you mutually accept a map, or don't play each other then lol.
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted February 09, 2008 07:04 AM |
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Plus... you now know that playing dungeon in HG is very hard.
Actualy dungeon is very strong on HG but ppl don't know how to play it.
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted February 09, 2008 08:14 AM |
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Why must you once again give bonus starting points???? That was the only BAD part about the first season of clans is certain players was given a huge head start...
Why cant we just start off at all ZEROS accross the board and everyone climb at same rate?? This way you will have 3 players with the most points ban together and start out with 190 points while some clans start with 15 points or Zero points if there are new clans..
This way would NOT promote new activity... just the opposite.. Any new guys wanting to join and starting already in the whole 200 points isnt good.
I know me personally prolly wouldnt bother joining. Just a thought.... consider starting everyone at Zero. Everyone equal starting ground... new players and new clans would be equal and I think would better increase chance of higher activity.
But what does Jinxer know... lol
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted February 09, 2008 08:39 AM |
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Why must you once again give bonus starting points???? That was the only BAD part about the first season of clans is certain players was given a huge head start...
Why cant we just start off at all ZEROS accross the board and everyone climb at same rate?? This way you will have 3 players with the most points ban together and start out with 190 points while some clans start with 15 points or Zero points if there are new clans..
This way would NOT promote new activity... just the opposite.. Any new guys wanting to join and starting already in the whole 200 points isnt good.
I know me personally prolly wouldnt bother joining. Just a thought.... consider starting everyone at Zero. Everyone equal starting ground... new players and new clans would be equal and I think would better increase chance of higher activity.
But what does Jinxer know... lol
I can agree with Jinxer 190-100 starting points for any clan will be so much. Need to be max 50 points or less for 1st clan. From other side its normal all high clans to get smal bonuses.
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okrane
Famous Hero
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posted February 09, 2008 09:21 AM |
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I don't have a clan.
Is there any thread I can use to search for one?
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted February 09, 2008 09:33 AM |
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Ok, so I don't have interent currently. However, if I did, why would I get involved in this tournament. First, I would need to prove myself by playing games, which most likely would be difficult because I would have no rank. Then, even after I prove myself, I'd have to find a clan willing to take a new person in. Once in a clan there are now other clans that have the equivilent of 'free' wins. Lets say a clan has 90 points at start. That is the equivilent of 30 wins, free. So I start out already 30 games behind. Great.
Since proving myself 'worthy' to even be played would take time, and then getting the rank to get a clan interested in me a lot more time...
By the time I got into a clan, chances are most clans would have played a whole lot of more games. So I would start out even farther back. Since I play mostly for fun and not for the win, chances are I wouldn't even get a clan. For a new person wanting to get into the tournament, that may be enough to make them decide otherwise.
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okrane
Famous Hero
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posted February 09, 2008 09:44 AM |
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There are other players here who play just for fun u know... like me!
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samiekl
Supreme Hero
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posted February 09, 2008 12:13 PM |
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Plus... you now know that playing dungeon in HG is very hard.
Actualy dungeon is very strong on HG but ppl don't know how to play it.
Ok Elit, i said i was a noob. Want to show me how can dungeon break there in week 3 with minimal losses (just a few stalkers)?
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okrane
Famous Hero
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posted February 09, 2008 12:40 PM |
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My untested suggestion:
Last Stand + Armageddon + 1-2 Hit and Runs on that gate 
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gmmari
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 09, 2008 05:05 PM |
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New system of the clan make some problem on the activity of the rogue
clan but i think offer a some new interesting thing.
To choose the map and go random on it is good for the philosophy of a rougue that gain choosing the map but equilize this advantage with the high probability to have a bad faction.
I play huorglass but i play also other map with that player that refuse to play here..in the future some player still refuse to play the map (this can be seen in a bad way for the activity) but some other player will accept this because i'm rougue so also now one problem (i hope)will equilize the other.
Some correction ves can try to fix but the new system seems playable.
For to fight what Samiekl says (that high player have problem to play
with new player) i think we could change a bit the method of gaining points in order to not penalize too much a player that lose against one more weak.
Maybe this can also help the activity of all games and so also the clan game.
Sorry for my english but is not my native language
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samiekl
Supreme Hero
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posted February 09, 2008 08:49 PM |
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Why dont we start a new toh season... i mean, everyone be a recruit? Everyone will have 1000 points and all clan points down to 0.
P.S. Dont kill me for that suggestion.
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Cycleguy
Adventuring Hero
Runs through cornfields naked
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posted February 10, 2008 01:20 AM |
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Why must you once again give bonus starting points????
From what I understand there are no awards or anything for the previous clan games right? If I understand that correctly I think taking basically a 70% cut in points for all clans who stay together is more than fair for all the games played in the past. 30% sure beats pretending all those games never happened.
If im wrong and there are rewards for the first Homm5 clan season then I agree starting at 0 is the right thing to do.
But looking at the Clan chart all top 3 clans started with no bonus points so I dont think it was that big of an advantage anyway.
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