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Gnoll_Mage
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posted May 19, 2008 12:13 AM

@Ceph: I'll try to explain soon.
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radar
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posted May 19, 2008 06:17 PM

But please GM not in this thread.



Hero Section (page 3) updated. Any non-noobish comments and suggestions are welcome
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
posted May 19, 2008 06:32 PM

Starting stats to 2,0,2,1 and maybe 35% att and 25% know.

Looking good.
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Kwarc
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posted May 19, 2008 07:45 PM

@Radar
I want to ask what about racial skill? Planeswalkers will have new one or old Wizard skills?

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Fauch
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Undefeatable Hero
posted May 19, 2008 07:50 PM

how would you create a new skill?

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Cepheus
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Far-flung Keeper
posted May 19, 2008 08:03 PM

Not possible, sorry.

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Darkshadow
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Cerise Princess
posted May 19, 2008 08:46 PM
Edited by Darkshadow at 20:48, 19 May 2008.

Is this the final creature load out?Wow, that is worse imbalance than sylvan.Looks good but just too overpowered.
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Castle/Haven player
posted May 19, 2008 09:38 PM

ROTFL

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WarLore
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posted May 19, 2008 09:40 PM
Edited by WarLore at 07:02, 20 May 2008.

this sounds great,i hope this will not make my game lag as most prev mods have done, @joonasTo are you finnish?
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Fauch
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posted May 20, 2008 12:19 PM

I see no stats, how can you say it's unbalanced?

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Kwarc
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posted May 20, 2008 01:59 PM
Edited by Kwarc at 16:41, 20 May 2008.

Quote:

2.
 Storm Elemental - Flyer. Shooter. Elemental. Immune to Air. Enraged
Wind Elemental  - Flyer. Elemental. Immune to Air. Incorporeal


Incorporeal? Isn't it too much? Maybe some type of protection to distance attack in place of Incorporeal, for example: Arrow Reflexion (renamed Large Shield) for Wind Elemental and Storm Bolt for Storm Elemental (in place of Enraged)

Edit: I didn't saw Storm Elemental is shooter, but IMO better will be if he doesn't be shooter, only he have Storm Bolt.

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4.
Blaze Elemental - Elemental. Shooter. Immune to Fire. Fire Shield. Mark of Fire.
Energy Elemental - Elemental. Shooter. Immune to Fire. Fire Shield. No Range Penalty


I suggest you Magma Shield for Blaze Elemental (in place of Fire Shield) and No Melee Penalty for Energy Elemental (in place of Fire Shield).

And I suggest some changes on 7 tier:

7.  Firebird-Living Creature, Large Creature, Flyer, Immune to Fire
7a. Phoenix-Living Creature, Large Creature, Flyer, Immune to Fire, Regeneration, Fire Shield
7b. Thunderbird-Living Creature, Large Creature, Flyer, Immune to Air, Agility, Enraged

Edit: Thunderbird can have Light Breath like Paokai in place of Enraged

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6.  Genius-Elemental*, Flyer, Large Creature, Magic Proof 50%
6a. Djinn-Elemental*, Flyer, Large Creature, Purge, Lay Hands, Magic Proof 75%
6b. Efreet-Elemental*, Flyer, Large Creature, Fire Shield, Immune to Fire, Flamestrike

*In description of Djinn we can read it is an ancient elemental

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Fauch
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posted May 20, 2008 02:08 PM
Edited by Fauch at 14:09, 20 May 2008.

Quote:

Quote:

2.
 Storm Elemental - Flyer. Shooter. Elemental. Immune to Air. Enraged
Wind Elemental  - Flyer. Elemental. Immune to Air. Incorporeal


Incorporeal? Isn't it too much? Maybe some type of protection to distance attack, for example: Arrow Reflexion (renamed Large Shield) for Wind Elemental and Storm Bolt for Storm Elemental



well, it's incorporeal OR shooter, both are quite good, no?
btw, I read on the previous topic, that all the stats of the storm elemental were weaker than those of the air elemental because of the incorporality. I'm not sure it's a good idea. it should at least be as good offensively.
and you can't rename large shield that way.
imagine : what's the ability of the squire? arrow reflexion? wtf?
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Quote:

4.
Fire Elemental - Elemental. Shooter. Immune to Fire. Fire Shield.
Blaze Elemental - Elemental. Shooter. Immune to Fire. Fire Shield. Mark of Fire.
Energy Elemental - Elemental. Shooter. Immune to Fire. Fire Shield. No Range Penalty


I suggest you Magma Shield for Blaze Elemental and No Melee Penalty for Energy Elemental.


bad idea imo, both upgrade would improve their power in melee.
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And I suggest some changes on 7 tier:

7.  Firebird-Living Creature, Large Creature, Flyer, Immune to Fire
7a. Phoenix-Living Creature, Large Creature, Flyer, Immune to Fire,
   Regeneration, Fire Shield
7b. Thunderbird-Living Creature, Large Creature, Flyer, Immune to Air,
   Agility

and any thunder orientated ability for the thunderbird?
if blizzard didn't already exist, storm would be good imo.

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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
posted May 20, 2008 04:27 PM

Lightning strike for thunderbird. Agreed.

yes I'm finnish
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Fauch
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Undefeatable Hero
posted May 20, 2008 05:54 PM

Quote:

6.  Genius-Elemental*, Flyer, Large Creature, Magic Proof 50%
6a. Djinn-Elemental*, Flyer, Large Creature, Purge, Lay Hands, Magic Proof 75%
6b. Efreet-Elemental*, Flyer, Large Creature, Fire Shield, Immune to Fire, Flamestrike


sprite are already supposed to have lay hands.

flame strike for the efreet. hum... may be interesting. (but flame strike is insanely powerful imo) flame wave could be good too.

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radar
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posted May 20, 2008 05:55 PM

Whats wrong with tier 6... I see no reason to change it


besides its cool ingame
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Fauch
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posted May 20, 2008 07:01 PM

I decided to play to the "change the abilities" game :

1.
Pixie - Living Creature. Flyer. Spray Attack.
Sprite - Living Creature. Flyer. Spray Attack. No Enemy Retaliation. Strikes and Returns
Dryad - Living Creature. Flyer. Spray Attack. Lay Hands.

2.
Air Elemental -  Flyer. Elemental. Immune to Air.
Storm Elemental - Flyer. Elemental. Immune to Air. Call Lightning.
Wind Elemental  - Flyer. Elemental. Immune to Air. Incorporeal

3.
Water Elemental - Elemental. Immune to Water. Caster (Ice Bolt)
Ice Elemental - Elemental. Immune to Water. Caster (Ice Bolt, Circle of Winter, deep freeze)
Glacial Elemental - Elemental. Immune to Water. No Retaliation. Slowing attack*

*Wound

4.
Fire Elemental - Elemental. Shooter. Immune to Fire. Fire Shield.
Blaze Elemental - Elemental. Shooter. Immune to Fire. Magma Shield. Mark of Fire
Energy Elemental - Elemental. Shooter. Immune to Fire. Fire Shield. Mark of Fire. Caster (Chain of Fire (it's like a chain lightning, except damage doesn't decrease for each stack struck, and yes, it exists)).

5.
Earth Elemental - Large Creature. Elemental. Immunity to Earth. Unlimited Retaliations. Magic Proof 50 %.
Magma Elemental - Large Creature. Elemental. Immune to Earth. Unlimited Retaliations. Immune to Fire. Opportunist attack*
Obsidian Elemental - Large Creature. Elemental. Unlimited Retaliations. Immune to Magic. Magnetism

* renamed lizard bite

6.
Astral Spirit - Living Creature. Large Creature. Flyer. Cursing Attack
Djinn - Living Creature. Large Creature. Flyer. Immune to air. Hexing Attack. Aura of Lightning Vulnerability
Efreet - Living Creature. Large Creature. Flyer. Immune to fire. Fire Shield. Aura of Fire Vulnerability

7.
Roc - Living Creature. Large Creature. Flyer. Immune to Air
Thunderbird - Living Creature. Large Creature. Flyer. Immune to Air. Call of the Storm
Phoenix - Living Creature. Large Creature. Flyer. Immune to Fire. Flame Wave. Regeneration.

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radar
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posted May 20, 2008 07:48 PM

c'mon fauch, Deep Freeze?
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Warmonger
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posted May 20, 2008 07:55 PM
Edited by Warmonger at 20:00, 20 May 2008.

Quote:
Chain of Fire

That's quite interesting... but these spells along with Deep Freeze look imba. Come on, it's just too much damage, even if I'd like to see them with my army

Overall there are three powerful casters, which seems to be too many. Air upgrade-shooter was much nicer Imo.

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posted May 20, 2008 07:58 PM

wait a moment... Ice Bolt itself deals more damage than Deep Freeze

it even sounds reasonable
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
posted May 20, 2008 07:59 PM

Especially if there wouldn't be any mastery on deep freeze.

This would keep the damage bonus to a minimum.
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