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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted May 25, 2008 11:39 AM |
bonus applied by pandora on 19 Jun 2008. |
Edited by Azagal at 08:37, 20 Jun 2008.
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HC Sociogram II?
I guess most of you guys remember Vlaads HC Sociogram. It gave us a better understanding of our community and was quite interesting. What I have in mind though is something a bit different. While Vlaads diagramm focused on the community what I plan to do is focused on the individual.
The idea is: You send me a HCM with notes about members and I will order them all here. As an example:
Your HCM should look like this:
Member: Azagal
-arrogant, fun, talkative, anything else that comes to your mind (it doesn't only have to be key words sentences are fine too)
Get the picture? This way people could see how they stand in the community, what things they could improve, what people like about them, etc.
I will however not let this become some sort of anonymous rant festival. I exspect every participant to not use this to insult someone just because you know it'll be anonymous.
Before I publish the results I will send the results to the people they are about so that they can chose whether they wouldn't want something to be posted in the public version. In the end I will post the results about everybody in this thread.
The whole thing is completly anonymous and I will be the only one getting the info.
This whole thing can be very nice and quite informative for the people participating if it's done responsibly. And just so you know... if you want to critize people feel free to do so aslong as it is your honest opinion but I will make public critizisme if it's stated in an apropriate and constructivemanner. Get it?
Here is the list of people you can post feedback about:
Radar,JoonasTo,Darkshadow,Lexxan, The_Gootch, Mytical, TA, emilsn, Genielord, Lord_Evil, william, Spectrum, Aculias, Keksimaton and Geny
Any opinions?
Here are the results:
Radar:
A fun, interesting member of HC., Creative (2x), confusing (at times), dedicated, friendly, easy going, skilled,
It's really fun to talk to him. I like that person, Really good modder. Makes me laugh all the time , forgetfull, polite, Overall funny, has his very good moments and innovations, nice guy, I've got nothing bad to say about those who take the time to mod Heroes V to try to make it a better, more interesting product, good poster who makes some good mods, is funny and is smart as well.
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JoonasTo:
A nice, down to earth poster. Funny, knows what's going on at HC. There should be more posters like him, passionate, reasonable, smart, Finnish, Unpredictable. On the beginning he seemed like a peaceful spiritual character, but he has surprised many times, Funny in his own way, sometimes. Manly man, I guess, All the qualities that makes Euros endearing minus the qualities that makes them infuriating. Here's hoping age doesn't kill this, Funny, smart, good to reply to and a good poster. Nothing really bad to say about this guy.
Somewhat self-confident, though he can be taken by surprise. He sometime wanted to commit suicide, but fortunately he did not 'give up', so I guess that makes him quite strong and resistant. He's a bit selfish when it comes to other creatures, because he classifies them by their usefulness -> he (mostly) cares for others as long as they are useful in a way (not necessarily to him though). He is not tempted too easily, so I guess he's pretty sure of himself. He also thinks force is necessary when it is used to stop itself (however I am of the opinion that understanding is the key here, not force).
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Darkshadow:
Annoying. attention seeker, doubtful, negative, diversified, Likes attention (and making a fool of himself). Less though than he wants to look, (occasionally) annoying spammer, bad newbie, not really contributes anything but a target for tease to HC, One of those new guys that just sort of blend in, you know? There's been heaps of them recently. (Undead avatars, the words "Dark" and "Evil" overused in usernames...) You don't really take notice of their posts, It isn't easy to step forward and ask for advice. I know it's the internet. It still took a bit of courage, Most of his posts are off-topic and annoying to read. I am sure he is a nice guy though, dry wit, either dead or cursed, spammer, occasional cases of humor, quantity over quality, cheeky, not as evil as he thinks and littlebrother alike
Well I don't know him much but I'd say he's too much interested in his 'personal image' (how others perceive him), and likes to be in the center of attention -> i.e he likes others to say 'cool' things about him, if you know what I mean. He's also stubborn and somewhat selfish, but can be a nice guy. Lately however he changed a bit, but I'd say he's too confident on himself, even when others tell him otherwise.
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Lexxan:
Less annoying than Darkshadow but they basically post the same stuff, friendly, involved, slightly immature, new, contributive, Really nice and friendly, he's here only for a short time, and I like him as if he's been here for years, hilarious, (occasionall) spammer, good newbie, The guy tries too hard, I think. He's posting everywhere and making new threads and just trying SO hard to be like an old member who knows everything about HC's history. But he has his moments, Posts a little too much spam and tries little too hard for a peanut, but he is sometimes funny, I stand corrected. You have talent and are even a bit funny, A newer person to this board and you seem to be quite funny. I am sure you will do well in the future, intelligent, kinda arrogant, spams as much as the next guy, opinionated, can be annoyingly off-topic once in a while
Nice person, also likes to 'join up' in groups of some sort, so I'd say he's quite extrovert (compared to some other members). He likes to think he cares about others, but he's not so good at it. He is somewhat lazy when it comes to finishing touches. He gets a bit annoyed when others say things about him that he does not like, or when he is seen 'different' from the others (in the group). He can also lose his temper, but not that easy, and is mature enough to apologize if he does so. He's not arrogant (perhaps a little though).
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The_Gootch:
He's a literary genius, but his arrogance prevents his due praise., blunt, judgemental, realistic, dry, creative, abrasive, mostly right, the least friendly/sensetive person around here. He doesn't really care about what others think or say. Iron. He's brutal and careless, but very honest. I kinda respect him, his posts either make me crack up or start thinking, good guy, Ice cold, but mainly pretty damn funny when he gets the hump at newbies. Mind you, I wouldn't try getting on his tits, and I'm not even that new..., While most of his comments towards members can be seen as attacks, they are also quite funny. He is smart, funny and he definitely has a way with words. A great poster, sharp wit, I mean, he can stab someone with his tongue I think, very diplomatic/neutral (since he is against everyone and such), quality poster
Ok, Gootch is proud. He thinks he's above others, especially when it comes to age and maturity. Normally I'd say he's right, but he lets his proudness to reach levels that are too high, and can sometimes reflect this quite arrogant attitude. He does not care about what others think of him, and I'd say what he mostly says does come from maturity, but he thinks that his choices are the ONLY thing classifing maturity. That means, if he takes a path, someone else with the same maturity level will take it as well, which is wrong. He does know what he is talking about and he is not arrogant for noobs, Positive,Arrogant,Concieted,Tough guy,Mean,Cares, sarcastic
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Mytical:
The whole sex change thing creeps me out big time, fun, imaginative, sincere, chaotic, philosophical, Sweet and charming, very sympathetic, insecure, senior rpger, odd fish, Good storyteller and good ideas from her. Nice job, Your lack of an education shows in the way you form arguments. If you're going to go back to school, then freaking go back to school. Quit talking about it and do it, Shy,Nice,Smart,Sad, A smart poster. Many of her ideas are quite original and it is good to see that she has revived the Glade with her ideas with RP's. Great stuff, original, very open(-minded), cheeky, intelligent, Often appears different(sometimes happy, angry, funny and so)
Misty is quite strange I'd say, I would classify her as a free-thinking person and one that cares about others in the sense that treatment should apply both ways (treat others as you would want to be treated). She is not very sure of herself, in the sense that she does not know much, and always learns new things (and I agree there). She all too often thinks that others take her posts as 'chaotic' and 'hot-tempered' when in fact she replies with enough civilized level and maturity, and in no way offenses anyone (at least not hard). She thinks she's worse than she actually is, i.e she has a bad image of herself, when in fact it's not (she does not believe in her too much).
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TA:
intelligent, sarcastic, more serious than he often shows, k, philosophical, logical, I really don't know him, so I can't say anything about him, Kool, Our old gamemaster, silent debater, Used to make lost of serious posts, now he only does it in OSM. However, he's made me laugh out loud more than once with his witty and observant short posts. And the randomness, lol. God bless his soul, He has strange and funny comments, I also like the way he posts in VW, This guy is cool. He is funny, fun to read his posts and he is never really annoying. He is nice to members and he is good to talk to
Overall a nice guy, likes people and appreciates beauty. The only flaw however is that he thinks about others and assumes things as he would about himself (i.e what's good for me is good for others). While this is a good concept in itself, it certainly should allow more freedom (like not all people have the same thoughts/preferences). He likes to debate, but usually treats others fairly. Sarcastic and self-confident. He likes to point out obvious errors and treat them in a sarcastic manner (especially in non-serious threads). He appreciates humor and is a bit too confident, I always felt a kinship with this one and then I found out why, we're both swimmers. Well, I used to be one.
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emilsn:
A very underrated poster, opinionated but geniuinely nice guy. Clued in also, unlike alot of other members, attention seeker, excitable, silly. Special, diversified, contributive, Nice. A year ago he used to be quite offensive, but I think he has become much more mature and today I really like him, like Darkshadow but more genuine (He is referring to this : Likes attention (and making a fool of himself). Less though than he wants to look.), What happened to you man? You have become bitter, Sort of a dark danish guy, I don't really get him at times, contributive, Um, average in every sense of the word. You don't wow me, nor do you irritate me, Don't agree with some of his posts, and sometimes they are off-topic. An average poster.
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Genielord:
Impressive, Creative, Intelligent, ambitious, selfish, kind (2x), diplomatic (2x), argumentative, nationalistic (not sure whether patriotic was ment here), Understanding, helpful, my old (?)friend , New gamemaster, naïve, I have to say that I really like good old GL. He's nice to people, tries hard but not too hard, and there's just a nice air about him, Militant Israelists I find to have little difference from militant Islamists. It gave me warm fuzzies seeing Geny put you in your place, One of the best posters who is younger then most people here. Great ideas, is smart and he has a good grasp on the English language even though it is not his native language. Great to talk to, funny and good to listen to and also a good listener. Good helper as well, diplomatic, critic at times, Mature, intelligent and honest
Very mature for his age, likes people and treats others fairly no matter they're beliefs or origins. He is also very self-confident and likes competitions. He is not sarcastic, but appreciates humor. He is very little naive, and places importance on his nation (nationalistic type). He does not ever want to betray his nation or beliefs. He likes to play games or competitions, and loves to help other people especially noobs (at a given subject obviously, we are all noobs at some point). He regards others as he would at himself. He likes happines and wants others to be happy.
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william:
HC wouldn't be the same without him , sweet, shy, interesting, doubtful, friendly, impatient, improved, supprotive, nice, and simply a good person. Really someone whom I can trust, has a good sense of humour, nice guy, grown a lot, emphasis on the lot, Used to like him, but now I don't see much of his posts, and what little I see is normally pretty useless. Not bad, just, not really sayin anything, Why must you be such an angry young man, when your future looks bright right to me?, Smart,Bright,Arrogant,Wishful,Hairless & Annoying, honest, normal (esp. in comparison with some of the other guys in here), opninionated
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Spectrum:
Fun(3x), lighthearted, easy going, spammer, it's fun to talk to him, good newbie, good spammer, The only one from the Python crew to have the sack to play this. Is it true you and Cardinal_Ximinez played doctor when you were younger?, Good poster and he too has also improved from the first time he got here, he doesn’t post too often, but when he does he makes me smile every time,
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Aculias:
One of the funniest and most reliable members of HC, experienced, hotheaded, sincere. intentionally silly, barely coherent, ancient, tosser, like TA, he never shows up how he really is, so I know nothing about him, I like him. It's always fun with Acu, Pecu, Mysterious, Learned to spell, takes bathes, Your posts are always welcome, Lol. Just the name makes me snork with delight. Everyone makes fun of him, and he takes it with such grace, he's funny about it and all. Great guy, and a legend in HC, Acu is one of best posters I have ever seen, on any forum, You work hard in this world. But are you moving up? You have no woman and no kids. There should be nothing impeding you, Good poster who has been here for a while. Though he thinks that at times he is helping people, it seems to be the opposite. Nonetheless though, he is a good poster, Confusing at times, unavoidable spelling errors, As I said, I don't know him, but I just wish he could really post seriously and to the point like he did long time ago.
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Geny:
Confusing, Funny, Intrigueing humorous, smart, selfish, carefree, diversified, I've met him three times already, and that guy is one of the funniest persons I know. Seriously. Mask of harshness and sarcasm to mask his empathy and sensitivity. Extremely loyal person, one of the best posters, a good guy overall, I really like Geny's style. He can get serious, but even then he's funny about himself. And when he's not serious, which is status quo, he's even funnier. Plus, I don't know, I just like his style of posting, Godfather of spam, he has straight comedian attitude, You have sought notriety for being a spammer, but the truth is you've got a pretty good head on your shoulders. Were you picked on when you were younger?, Good poster and funny as well.
Well sometimes serious but usually sarcastic. He does not like bad jokes or useless spam. He likes the community and is good with less experienced people. Has a bit of self-confidence, though somewhat strange I might say. (i don't know how to explain it in words right now, sorry), cheeky, funny, young minded
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Mvass:
A good guy but sometimes a little too serious, That guy never listen. He's mind is so close that he can never get outside of the box. On some OSM threads, more than 5 people had told him the same thing, but he ignored what everyone said and continued with what he has to say.
Too bad I'm like him sometimes. Hmm... I've still got a lot to learn, the worrying kind. Like to know many things, keep up the good work, HC needs good debaters, remember to re-evalueate your posts again after few years, He's quick to get his knickers in a twist, I'd say. Way too serious and sometimes annoying with the "Golden old ages"-rant., You're all over the place, which can be good. If you find you like to play devil's advocate, be careful. Others will catch on and not take you seriously if all you want to do is argue., While not all of his opinions are agreeable with, I do find that he does take the time to at least read everyones posts and to take the time to actually reply to them. He keeps the OSM active, one of the best ppl to fall in discussion with on HC, (I dunno why) "man", always trying to be right (but not to an extent where he's unreasonable)
Social but too dependent on the 'social contract' and does not act on morals, but on what is the 'greater benefit'. He's selfish in the sense that others need to be useful (in any way, especially economically )in order to be worthy. He is too confident on himself, and thinks that what he knows, especially about other people's emotions, is reflect by the truth and that others are never 'hurt' by this (when he says how others "should" feel). However he also empathizes less fortunate people, helping them because they will help the 'society' later, not out of love though (which I consider a bit selfish). Overall he has no much respect but is not so bad. He likes to debate and is good at debating (something which I usually enjoy to do with him). He is not often sarcastic but can be in few situations. He's way to serious however and thinks that others are reacting like him most times.
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TheDeath:
Annoying, I don't really know him, but he seems to be a good person, it's good to have a true christian here. don't give up!, I've often wondered if he has a sense of humour at all. He turns nice funny threads into OSM-like rant festivals. Speaking of which, he's also a little too active in the Other Side to be able to chill out, argumentative, I think he is good and serious poster, though sometimes a little too serious, He is a good poster and he knows his stuff. In fact, he seems to be one of the smarter posters here especially with Computers and Science, or so it seems, thoughtful, funny (sometimes programmer humor), intelligent
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Elvin:
A very overrated poster. It's not that he is particularly bad or annoying, it's just that he gets alot of praise and I don't understand why. I'm not sure I've seen a bunch of hilarious posts by him or anything, and the praise is getting to his head a bit (not that he shows it overtly). I'm not sure what role he plays in HC. But, he's a nice enough guy. If those qualities are the worst about him then he's doing pretty well for himself
Nice, Intelligent, honest, determined, Seems a patient, funny and overall nice fellow, newbie mod who can't shut up and lurk like all the others, i quess HC needs it cover smile boy too, Nice, fun, chilled. Does his moderator job well and is active in every area. His posts are nice and he is polite and everybody's friend, A good moderator and funny in general, You seem to be a genuinely good person and you measure your words far too well. Curses! I will have the chance to rip on you before I'm done here!, Quiet,Shy,Sensetive,Wimpy,Smart., While I do not agree with him posting so many posts that seem to be quite off-topic at times, I guess he is a nice poster. He doesn't need to reply to everything though,
Hehe he's a calm guy, appreciates good humour and likes to be neutral, though it does seem he prefers one group (in discussions) over the others (I will not reveal that). He is nice and wants others to be happy just as he is; appreciates a good relaxation after a hard day's work and likes to participate in different community threads. He is helpful and likes to help out noobs (less experienced users) and is more tolerant than alc for out-of-topic posts, and he does not ever like to give out penalties (some consider him a bit 'soft', which I disagree).
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TnT:
Extremely funny and crazy person, he's a chiller, he usually has fun posts.Also really original thread ideas, thumbs up for testicles, Funny, attention seeker, selfish, You were 'The Man of HC', how come you quit, humorous dude, He's dead funny, that's for sure, and doesn't hesitate to burn any member if they have the poor judgement of, say, making a post. Yes, he finds humour and twisted sexuality in just about anything, You've come a long way baby, On RL he's really nice and funny (maybe if he's not always so nice on the forums). Fun to talk with, At times he can be kinda annoying but he is really cool and funny when he isn't annoying. A good poster who has come a long way, pretty fed up with himself, tends to be original and funny, can be very disturbing whenever he talks about aculias in a pink thong..., Too sensetive.Looks like Edge on WWE.Loves women.Positive.Over confident. Clown
He's funny, and usually sarcastic. He likes to hang out, and likes others to help him even though he does a relatively poor job at helping others (not that he wouldn't want perhaps). He also likes to be right, and is talkative and likes to get into threads. Likes to highlight specific funny stuff from threads.
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angelito:
Proud and honourable. celebrated H3player, a nice guy bit is serious too often, I cannot comment on him much, as I don't hang in library, OSM or maphave that much. Good moderator I guess, Serious, helpful, responsible. I don't really know him though, the peacekeeper around here, nice witty comments you sometimes make pal, good mod, and a nice guy. Haven't seen much of his posts lately, but he's always struck me as a funny chap, made me laugh a good few times, Why are you still a mod?! Go! Change a diaper! I swear your baby better not be falling asleep to the sound of you hammering away on a keyboard. I recommend Mozart instead, or if you gotta stay local, Wagner,
A good mod, but I have no idea how he is as a person. The only time he showed some feelings was when his wife had a stroke, and I can't really get an impression of the person according to that. It's not an everyday situation, One of the best HOMM3 gamers on this board and one of the fairest mods on here, Straight up with people.Caring dude.Positive about everything.Strict.
Great guy.
Well a very patient mod I must say. He treats every discussion fairly, whether it is not serious at all or simply disagreeing with him. I find that an important quality of him. He is also nice to less experienced members and I think he also emphasizes his culture (western culture so to speak).
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DagothGares:
Smart, Humouristic and ironcall. lol, WHO IS HIM???!?!?!??!?!?!??!, Has good posts, a thoughfull poster and hardly makes those "non intelligent" threads, average, Um, nothing to say really, I don't know much about him... :S, So you fear me eh? Big mistake...big mistake....muwhaha *rubs hands together*, Seems to be nice. Just wait till he discovers the OSM., I do not know him much but I'd say he's very respectful for life and treats it seriously, A good poster who is slightly new. His knowledge about Psychic's is quite good. He is going to be a great poster in the future.
He can be funny and very honest. He likes to analyze other people and their emotions and draw conclusions from that (assumptions from his experiences with people). Not very talkative but not truly shy either, somewhere in the middle.
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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radar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
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posted May 25, 2008 12:11 PM |
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Great. But If I were you, I'd take that somewhere between, jounglings etc. categories off.
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted May 25, 2008 12:16 PM |
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Yeah... you're right. No need for uneccessary trouble.
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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JoonasTo
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
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posted May 25, 2008 12:18 PM |
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted May 25, 2008 12:49 PM |
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Oh and just like Vlaad Sociogram this will need atleast a few people to really work/ get interesting.
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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Lexxan
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
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posted May 25, 2008 12:54 PM |
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Great idea, Azagal I'm...
IN!
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Coincidence? I think not!!!!
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Darkshadow
Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
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posted May 25, 2008 02:04 PM |
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Ill join the bandwagon...
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william
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted May 25, 2008 03:25 PM |
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Alright, I'm in...again.
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~Ticking away the moments that
make up a dull day, Fritter and
waste the hours in an off-hand
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GenieLord
Honorable
Legendary Hero
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posted May 25, 2008 03:32 PM |
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I'll be honest: I'm really afraid of receiving a harsh criticism. But it seems like you planned it well enough so nobody will get offended. Anyway, I'm in.
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Lord_Evil
Famous Hero
Evil lolcat
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posted May 25, 2008 03:49 PM |
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Im in, but i still dont get the main idea.
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted May 25, 2008 04:49 PM |
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I'm not sure if I get it?
Do I write about some other people? and then you do what?
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Don't walk behind me; I may not
lead. Don't walk in front of me;
I may not follow. Just walk
beside me and be my friend.
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The_Gootch
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Kneel Before Me Sons of HC!!
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posted May 26, 2008 02:10 AM |
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I'm feeling froggy. I'm jumping.
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted May 26, 2008 08:37 AM |
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I'll join this fun fest. Just as a note, be as harsh as you want about me, I can take it.
So we are to send you an HCM about the people currently in, and what we think about them?
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Message received.
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TitaniumAlloy
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Professional
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posted May 26, 2008 08:45 AM |
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You can take the list off but it wont make me less hurt Azagal....
lol kidding.
I'm in
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John says to live above hell.
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted May 26, 2008 08:50 AM |
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Edited by Mytical at 09:56, 26 May 2008.
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Both Gootch and TA, who seem to dislike me . This could get interesting
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Message received.
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Spectrum
Famous Hero
Plan B
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posted May 26, 2008 04:18 PM |
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The_Gootch
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Kneel Before Me Sons of HC!!
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posted May 26, 2008 04:54 PM |
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Quote: I will send the notes about the member to the person and he can HCM with a censored version should something be listed that isn't to his likeing.
""Yet do I fear thy nature; It is too full o' the milk of human kindness."
Quote: Both Gootch and TA, who seem to dislike me
? I dislike everyone. What makes you special?
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted May 26, 2008 05:43 PM |
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Thats true.
Even when I knew him back then I did not even think he liked himself
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Dreaming of a Better World
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 26, 2008 05:49 PM |
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Quote: ? I dislike everyone. What makes you special?
Btw this thread seems more like a commentary on certain people than a sociogram.
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted May 26, 2008 05:51 PM |
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Gets more people to read it so it's ok.
I got bored from the first one but in here it seems a bit more fun!!!
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