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Minion
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posted June 13, 2008 04:16 PM |
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What is wrong with this guy? Any suggestion that you can convince someone to become homosexual is just nonsense. I mean, really! And people like the Reverend are allowed to vote, and, God forbid, hold public office!
Hhee, God forbid indeed. Hard to imagine what kind of mind actually agrees to what he says.
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Mulroney
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posted June 14, 2008 01:08 AM |
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I'm not against freedom of speech; I AM against freedom of speech when done by retards who have no clue whatsoever they are talking about.
I agree. People should only be free to express opinions that agree with your own. Hell, we should make a whole system based on that. You could DICTATE to all of us what to think and what to say (since you're so much better informed than everyone else) and we would be forced to listen.
Start the Moonlith revolution! Down with free speech for retards! Heil Moonlith! Heil! Heil!
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Moonlith
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posted June 14, 2008 01:24 PM |
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Edited by Moonlith at 13:24, 14 Jun 2008.
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Mind you, the priest who's article you quoted seems to have more deluded nazi thoughts than I do.
What does that make you?
Freedom of speech is one thing, but saying things like homosexuality is a sin isn't an opinion, that's just nonsense.
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Minion
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posted June 14, 2008 01:31 PM |
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Mind you, the priest who's article you quoted seems to have more deluded nazi thoughts than I do.
What does that make you?
Freedom of speech is one thing, but saying things like homosexuality is a sin isn't an opinion, that's just nonsense.
Moonlith I can't believe you think that way. Church sees homosexuality as a sin. Why is saying that not an option... Are you in favour of a totalitarian system?
However, religions should be removed far from any connection to the state, so they cannot affect legistlation with their discriminatory preachings.
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Mulroney
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posted June 14, 2008 08:46 PM |
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Mind you, the priest who's article you quoted seems to have more deluded nazi thoughts than I do.
What does that make you?
Freedom of speech is one thing, but saying things like homosexuality is a sin isn't an opinion, that's just nonsense.
Not being, according to you, an acceptable opinion does not mean it isn't an OPINION. You're the one spewing nonsense.
I think it's precious when left-wing loons praise open-mindedness and diversity, and then eschew any ideas that don't agree with their own. It's the ultimate hypocrasy.
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executor
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posted June 16, 2008 12:27 AM |
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Edited by executor at 00:29, 16 Jun 2008.
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However, religions should be removed far from any connection to the state, so they cannot affect legistlation with their discriminatory preachings.
Even if 90% of the population supports it? Then it would be a bit undemocratic.
Not that I support democracy, I'm indifferent.
Well, I am for freedom of speech and opinion, I can even have neonazis, religious fanatics, anarchists, and whoever else speaking what I consider to be complete bullsnow, as long as they don't push it into action or they heavily offend me personally(then I X them  . personally).
Edit: lol, I didn't know there's an automated censor here  .
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OmegaDestroyer
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Fox or Chicken?
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posted June 16, 2008 12:30 AM |
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You think religion should be removed because it may influence how people vote with their "discriminatory message," Minion? Shouldn't we eliminate the media then?
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Minion
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posted June 16, 2008 12:48 AM |
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Edited by Minion at 00:58, 16 Jun 2008.
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You think religion should be removed because it may influence how people vote with their "discriminatory message," Minion? Shouldn't we eliminate the media then?
I am saying that church and state are to be separated. Their marriage be undone, so to speak. Laws should be made without consulting the bible first, for example. Or the prophets or whatever. That is ideal in my opinion. If 90% of the people want priests as their lawmakers, then that country will be like that. I, however, most likely wouldn't live there very long.
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mvassilev
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posted June 16, 2008 01:01 AM |
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Laws should be made to protect individual rights first and to promote the public good second. Those are the only functions of laws.
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OmegaDestroyer
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Fox or Chicken?
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posted June 16, 2008 01:09 AM |
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So you think the government should tell churches they can't marry people?
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DagothGares
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posted June 16, 2008 01:13 AM |
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However, religions should be removed far from any connection to the state, so they cannot affect legistlation with their discriminatory preachings.
The french revolution *ahem*
To separate church and state
Liberté, égalité et fraternité? Doesn't it ring a bell?
Church and state have been separated for over 200 years. Marriage, however, is a somewhat religious event so the law has to consult the bible about it.
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Minion
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posted June 16, 2008 01:17 AM |
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Edited by Minion at 01:32, 16 Jun 2008.
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So you think the government should tell churches they can't marry people?
Where did I imply that? If you would understand what separation means, that means that if church is out of governments business, then government is out of church´s business. Except when the church is braking the law. You could try something else than putting words in my mouth. I know you are capable of that.
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OmegaDestroyer
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Fox or Chicken?
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posted June 16, 2008 02:50 AM |
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Their marriage be undone, so to speak.
You said that the church's marriage should be undone and with everything else you said about the seperation, it can be reasonably inferred that you think marriage should be a state function, not a religious function.
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mvassilev
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posted June 16, 2008 04:07 AM |
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Marriage can be a religious function completely independently of it being a state function.
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Minion
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posted June 16, 2008 10:51 AM |
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Their marriage be undone, so to speak.
You said that the church's marriage should be undone and with everything else you said about the seperation, it can be reasonably inferred that you think marriage should be a state function, not a religious function.
"Their marriage" was only a metaphor, referring to the marriage of church and state. Church = bride , state = groom. I'll try to be more descriptive next time.
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executor
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posted June 16, 2008 11:31 AM |
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And if religious majority is in favour of such 'marriage'? Then what? Opress majority? Ridiculous idea for me.
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Minion
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posted June 16, 2008 11:42 AM |
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And if religious majority is in favour of such 'marriage'? Then what? Opress majority? Ridiculous idea for me.
No. I have stated my ideal situation, how I think it would be best for the government to function, nowhere I have been forcing majority to conform to anything. If you read one earlier of my replies to you I said that if 90% want it to be that way then it will be so. Do you even read my replies? The manner in which you reply implies you don't, which essentially means we probably have little to ´discuss´
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executor
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posted June 16, 2008 12:58 PM |
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1. Sorry for repeating myself, I indeed did that, however that was not my intention. And I do care to read your posts, Minion  .
2. Anyway, 'mmarriage' of state and church is somewhat not the same thing as legal system influenced by a religion, so perhaps my repetition was not such a tragedy.
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mvassilev
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posted June 16, 2008 03:30 PM |
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And if religious majority is in favour of such 'marriage'? Then what? Opress majority?
It wouldn't be oppression. Even if 99% of the people wanted a state religion, we still shouldn't have one. Why? Well, if 51% of the people said that we should kill the other 49%, should we?
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TheDeath
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with serious business
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posted June 16, 2008 03:34 PM |
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Well, if 51% of the people said that we should kill the other 49%, should we?
Nope we shouldn't and it's why I think democracy is bad.
It was a joke somewhere: "You have a cow, your neighbors decide if you keep it" for democracy
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