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Elit
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posted July 20, 2008 08:34 AM |
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Edited by Elit at 08:37, 20 Jul 2008.
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Let's just chill out and wait several days. Let's assume I agree on all arguments about how hard it was for sylvan. That's means that Sq was severely UNLUCKY with random pairs and striking out. But that's no news when playing random... frequently you get an underdog race compared to opponent. If you wish we can change the agreed setup and correct "unlucky" factor by playing a reverse game.
Let's pause the whole deal. We talked on msn with Sq just now and avoided any conflict. Despite his determination about forfeiting I ask there is a time at least to try renovating the bridge.
LoL Strider. You are realy big hypocritcy. In your game not "random luck". You force Sq79 to play blind map desing from your clan mate Zilonite. Its pure orc map and you did blind strike maps/races so you choice best race for map and Zilo continue "fix" map few days after you posted race set in forum here. Stop think all people for stupid. You are bad loser and cheap player who can't play fair games and need advantage from begining to can start game vs decent oponent. Just this time you did big mistake and now all see how you playing. Enjoy your cheap wons now 
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Zilonite
Famous Hero
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posted July 20, 2008 10:45 AM |
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Edited by Zilonite at 10:55, 20 Jul 2008.
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Zilo continue "fix" map few days after you posted race set in forum here.
Do you really think I added some mega-orc stuff after Strider and Sq agreed which races they will play??? How about geting some facts and talking and offending only afterwards?
Timeline of events:
1.I sent map for testing to Elvin and Fiur (Insa got it as well).
2.Sq and Strider agreed on pairs.
3.Fiur gave me very good and detailed feedback about map. However, knowing that Strider and Sq fixed their pairs, only things I used from Fiur's comments was prolonging sim turns by removing one player controled garnison on each side, fixing two accesability bugs and replaced rnd lvl 2 monster with lots of shieldguards in mixed stack (on express guidance by Fiur). Mega-orc boosting, right?
4.Sq and Strider played their game.
Reading all this makes me feel more and more happy that i don't play in ToH anymore, lol. And getting accusations of this kind kills any desire to contribute in any other way as well... 
P.S.2 Jinxer: tnx for constructive suggestions!
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sq79
Famous Hero
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posted July 20, 2008 10:53 AM |
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I'm not continuing this tourney anymore i repeat, no consideration needed...
Please don't wait for me, i'm not resuming and please do not ask to continue round 2 anymore in replies.
Automatic victory or replacement for Strider please.
I'm sorry of the accusations made against zilo.
I've had alot of fun with u in the past, but not with your best friend for sure.
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted July 20, 2008 10:54 AM |
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Zilo continue "fix" map few days after you posted race set in forum here.
Do you really think I added some mega-orc stuff after Strider and Sq agreed which races they will play??? How about geting some facts and talking and offending only afterwards?
Timeline of events:
1.I sent map for testing to Elvin and Fiur (Insa got it as well).
2.Sq and Strider agreed on pairs.
3.Fiur gave me very good and detailed feedback about map. However, knowing that Strider and Sq fixed their pairs, only things I used from Fiur's comments was prolonging sim turns by removing one player controled garnison on each side, fixing two accesability bugs and replaced rnd lvl 2 monster with lots of shieldguards in mixed stack (on express guidance by Fiur). Mega-orc boosting, right?
4.Sq and Strider played their game.
Reading all this makes me feel more and more happy that i don't play in ToH anymore, lol. And getting accusations of this kind kills any desire to contribute in any other way as well...
I dont want to think any about this. Its simple bad idea Strider to play his clan mate map with Sq79 blind. If they want blind map can play new Fiur map AoW not your. All problems come from here. I dont want to argue with you or Strider...never mind last is realy funny
Your map making job and your playing is diferent stuf. Dont mess both. So far i dont like your h3 rmg "balanced" too. So dont be so mad 
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted July 20, 2008 10:59 AM |
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I'm not continuing this tourney anymore i repeat, no consideration needed...
All what you need now is few beer with chips
Don't be mad! It's not secret you are n00b
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Strider_HL
Famous Hero
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posted July 20, 2008 11:51 AM |
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LoL Strider. You are realy big hypocritcy. In your game not "random luck". You force Sq79 to play blind map desing from your clan mate Zilonite. Its pure orc map and you did blind strike maps/races so you choice best race for map and Zilo continue "fix" map few days after you posted race set in forum here. Stop think all people for stupid. You are bad loser and cheap player who can't play fair games and need advantage from begining to can start game vs decent oponent. Just this time you did big mistake and now all see how you playing. Enjoy your cheap wons now
Apparently, your bad writing is combined with even worse reading skills.  Read once more points 1,2 and 4,5 from my post yesterday. I've even offered a reverse game to Sq despite series setup - the best proof of fairness that requires no arguments at all. Read it all slowly, don't be afraid of dictionary (it's your friend, not enemy).
I've been playing DECENT players only and on FULL RANDOM only for more than a year. Full random by default means 50/50. Obviously, those decent opponents don't involve you or your kennel partner. hehe Read also Zilo's reply about conspiracy.
I don't think all people are stupid. I just think that you have gathered most of stupidity and thus actually made the world a better place. Finally a good job, thx.
All in all, every accusation has been neutralized by arguments. elit's posts are pure slandering and infantile. I won't bother to pay attention to your whimpering any more. I suggest you howl at the moon from now on but be careful to not bother neighborhood too much.
P.s. To those who don't know - map was blind only in striking out phase. Before game we had more than hour to explore it.
P.p.s. Where were mine and Zilo's wits when we thought that map made especially for the Caesars was a bright idea. It never crossed our minds that it would attract stray dogs. Perhaps we were too naive... If I had played Fiur's blind map with the same result, these same scavengers would point out that I'm way closer with Fiur than Sq is...
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted July 20, 2008 12:20 PM |
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elit's posts are pure slandering and infantile. I won't bother to pay attention to your whimpering any more.
LoL
Poor you! Shame from Elit to talk all this.
Will tell it for last time. For me you are bad losser and cheap player. I'm not forget how you fake losst your save agains me to prevent loss your game. When we have this argue i send mail to Ves for void game because SQ79 ask me. He say "we dont need argue like it". Now you manage to piss him enough to post in forum. Sq79 is never argue with people so realy great job from you.
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fraudatio
Famous Hero
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posted July 20, 2008 02:25 PM |
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Weee, cant be away for 3 days without drama āla Big Brother.
I know nothing about the facts in the discussion between Strider and SQ apart from what is presented here, so I wont comment that. What annoys me here is to see the joy and pleasure Elit has with putting illeagally imported gas on the fire, a fire that already burns brightly. Comments that are just lies and misjudgements doesn`t get ok just because they fit with the picture of the writer. Stick to the facts Elit, it is enough.
If i think Struggler/Elsa/Whoever is a bad guy, i can still keep to facts and not make up stuff.
ATM i do not think any of you are bad, but for sure not very wise at times either.
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Kispagat
Famous Hero
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posted July 20, 2008 02:47 PM |
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Weee, cant be away for 3 days without drama āla Big Brother.
I will be away for a holiday for a week. I hope when I will be back this post has sunk.
Ps. Weather forecast says there will be rains and storms for next week
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted July 20, 2008 02:47 PM |
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H4 Caesar went so smoothly ...
Egos were lower then, I guess the increasing gas costs affects everyone, everywhere 
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted July 20, 2008 04:00 PM |
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Edited by Elit at 16:24, 20 Jul 2008.
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I know nothing about the facts in the discussion between Strider and SQ apart from what is presented here, so I wont comment that. What annoys me here is to see the joy and pleasure Elit has with putting illeagally imported gas on the fire, a fire that already burns brightly. Comments that are just lies and misjudgements doesn`t get ok just because they fit with the picture of the writer. Stick to the facts Elit, it is enough.
I know enough about all facts and i'm not say one lie here. If you chek all posts its not only me who "fill picture". All this argue is result from Strider actions not from my. So keep with facts better.
P.S.
I dont want to comment here more. All is over for me about this argue.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 20, 2008 11:26 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 23:27, 20 Jul 2008.
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Wow where did all this come from? I've read the details and arguments but what I really see is that there is bad blood and pride for small things that could be coincidental. Maybe it's the pressure of the higher ranks maybe not - I just returned and I'm not sure I have not missed something - but maybe this is also a case of hot temper than cool reasoning?
Everyone has his dark sides but on the other hand not everyone gets along. That's fine and it's none of my business but some attacks were uncalled for.
In any case I hope that sq will continue playing as he is an asset to toh being both a good player and a good person. If you won't continue Caesar's I hope you'll stick around..
Turn the page anew?
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samiekl
Supreme Hero
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posted July 21, 2008 08:26 AM |
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted July 21, 2008 08:45 AM |
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Valentin
Adventuring Hero
grr
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posted July 21, 2008 09:50 AM |
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Valentin can take SQ's place if he wants to, if SQ decides to forefit 2nd game. I prefer that SQ continues though, this time plays with his own parameters... or have me decide.
I m ready for playing. I'll enjoiy the playing in the tournament. Thank you ves.
I must play against Strider, right?
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted July 22, 2008 06:47 PM |
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Valentin vs Strider best 2 out of 3 games.
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Valentin
Adventuring Hero
grr
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posted July 22, 2008 08:46 PM |
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well, I hope I will not be a easy meat for our master
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Strider_HL
Famous Hero
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posted July 22, 2008 11:44 PM |
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Valentin vs Strider best 2 out of 3 games.
All right. Your call. 
Btw, in Heroes League a player would receive penalty points for signing up for the tournament and then withdrawing. Other party advances unless accepts the replacement only by his or her courtesy. Needless to say that already completed games remain intact.
In series vs Sq no fraud was found or proved. Sq withdrew from the match-up 3 days after the first game. His reasons were purely personal dislike and reaction to post-game chat. Logically, emotions can not and should not be the basis for round 1 being called void.
Also, I realize that strategically it would be much wiser to keep silent. Yet, I'm not ready to betray my priciples screaming out for justice. Probably, kennel inhabitants will eat me alive now hehe
In short, I believe that Valentin should be allowed to replace Sq but the match-up score should remain 1-0.
Be it as it will. Good luck, Val
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 22, 2008 11:54 PM |
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Out of formality maybe but that's a slightly different case.
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted July 23, 2008 05:43 AM |
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muahaha the drama has only just begun... wait till round 2 and 3
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