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Monday 26 of January - A day with the girl
Yesterday - A day of joy and happiness
I skipped my last class to be with da Girlfriend  She is so sweet you know, and I can afford to skip a few classes
So we went home to her - she lives in the city where we go to school, so easier to be at her and cheaper for her - And just kicked the feet up and had a good day
I spent the whole afternoon + evening there.. Lovely
Highlights:
I touched her boob (not both, just one of them)
Great @ss touching, both sides(we have done that before, but that is always good  )
She fell asleep in my arms  Awesome feeling Except funny thing this is: The television was on and they showed: The Sketchshow, (the british comedy show And I didn't want to laugh because I wasn't that sure if she was asleep or not  and I wanted to try that: HUG AND ROLL OVER technique from friends(?) you remember Just for the fun of it
I DID THREE THINGS AT ONCE! Tonguekissed, touched ass and had my other arm going up and down her back - FREAKING tough. Men cannot multitask.. Atleast not that well!
I actully think that was it.
But am I weird if I think we should talk more? All we really do is kiss or there is almost always atleast 30min of talk before action And well I talk under dinner of course, I like her parents very easy to talk to But! Talk more or just think: KISSING goooood.
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posted January 27, 2009 06:23 PM |
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So you finally touched her boob? Wow, you sure do it slowly guys. What took you so long?
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posted January 27, 2009 06:49 PM |
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As seems to be your habit you are just trying to confuse a simple issue, absurdly exaggerating by suddenly equalling love and hate.
Ah ok I should probably have used something lighter although that wasn't even the point.
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But what is worse - you don't seem to have an idea about language at all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo_words_for_snow
Isn't this some of the stuff I'm advocating? I mean to split up what we call "love" in a given situation to many characteristics -- of which "love" would be only THAT which is EVERYWHERE (albeit in different amounts).
For example, split up the "love of a couple" (what's it called in english?) into (example): love + attraction. Why? Because a single word, "love" should be coherent in all cases. Surely, if we didn't split it, you wouldn't use it in a (normal) parental relationship?
But to put it simpler: say some alien comes and asks you "what does love mean?" (no, we don't have to explain what love IS, just what the word means).
What do you answer? "Well it depends on the situation..."? (i.e parental, couple, etc)
Doesn't that ring a bell that the definition is flawed?
No, it doesn't, since this is language and words we ar spraking of and not the exact meaning of it. If an lien asks you hat does "spirit" mean, what do you answer?
The question is not what the word means, the question is what that which it stands for is in reality.
Reducing "love" to something that may or may not be part of everything that is associated with it, makes just as much sense as define "food" by defining it as that which every food has as part of it. I don't think that it makes sense to do that.
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posted January 27, 2009 07:09 PM |
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So you finally touched her boob? Wow, you sure do it slowly guys. What took you so long?
My hand just slipped on it! Seriosly! ..
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posted January 27, 2009 07:16 PM |
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No, it doesn't, since this is language and words we ar spraking of and not the exact meaning of it. If an lien asks you hat does "spirit" mean, what do you answer?
I answer depending on my beliefs, obviously. But the catch with love is that the alien, asking the same person, has different 'situations'. He asks "Oh, so it is that thing that you feel towards your wife, right? Then, since you call it the same word what you feel towards your sister, does that mean you feel the same? Right?"
The "No" answers obviously complicates matters.
(i.e we do not need to explain "what" is the feeling of love, but what the word means -- imagine that the alien already knows how the feelings are, but doesn't know the word to express them).
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posted January 27, 2009 07:17 PM |
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My hand just slipped on it! Seriosly! ..
I got a bit more dirty with my girl today. Much faster lol (1st date).
But ya know, I'm too old for those tiny little steps towards the goal 
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posted January 27, 2009 09:13 PM |
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No, it doesn't, since this is language and words we ar spraking of and not the exact meaning of it. If an lien asks you hat does "spirit" mean, what do you answer?
I answer depending on my beliefs, obviously. But the catch with love is that the alien, asking the same person, has different 'situations'. He asks "Oh, so it is that thing that you feel towards your wife, right? Then, since you call it the same word what you feel towards your sister, does that mean you feel the same? Right?"
The "No" answers obviously complicates matters.
(i.e we do not need to explain "what" is the feeling of love, but what the word means -- imagine that the alien already knows how the feelings are, but doesn't know the word to express them).
Lol, good one. Compare the two bold prints. And in case you are scratching your head now: it may help to have a look at the meanings of the word "spirit".
Now, for the underlined part. In fact, you are saying what I say - that there different sorts of love. We would need to have different words for differen kinds of love.
However, Death, we were not talking about lamnguage, we were talking about reality, and your point was that there is just one love. If there WAS only one love we obviously wuldn't need different words.
So I take it that you now have been converted to my pov.
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posted January 27, 2009 09:18 PM |
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I touched her boob (not both, just one of them)
Her skin or through her shirt?
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emilsn
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posted January 27, 2009 09:21 PM |
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No skin  - but well... Yeah..
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posted January 27, 2009 09:34 PM |
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@ JJ
What should a guy say who does not believe in spirits?
Interesting is the fact that every human can live without his or her gential organs.Life possible without the need of a partner?
Ps: Love should be something as defined.With my words,the feeling to care for another individual or thing.
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posted January 27, 2009 09:40 PM |
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I think this thread is really amusing in its displayed contrast between fierce debates on semantics and juvenile kiss-and-tell.
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posted January 27, 2009 09:43 PM |
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Now, for the underlined part. In fact, you are saying what I say - that there different sorts of love. We would need to have different words for differen kinds of love.
Or, rather, we would have ONE word to describe LOVE, and use it in combinations for other forms of "love".
That was my POV.
Example: We have two (currently) love: sibling love, and couple love.
We can make 2 words of "love", or we can make my pov: split up the "love" from the other components (attraction, etc).
So it's like splitting it into basic components, but at the very least ALL of them contain a common component: love. The rest are different (you don't usually have attraction towards, let's say, your father ). But the "love" component, it's still there.
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Interesting is the fact that every human can live without his or her gential organs.Life possible without the need of a partner?
Hmm why not? I mean, that is only needed for reproduction. Since people don't just live to reproduce. And I haven't even gone to the artificial reproduction stage Quote:
Ps: Love should be something as defined.With my words,the feeling to care for another individual or thing.
Yeah somehow like that 
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posted January 27, 2009 09:46 PM |
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I think this thread is really amusing in its displayed contrast between fierce debates on semantics and juvenile kiss-and-tell.
Very true haha. Still, I'd rather participate in the adolescent babble rather than in the fierce debate on semantics @.o
And so I do. ;p
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posted January 27, 2009 09:54 PM |
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Although it is a good idea to define things,the human is such an imperfect creature that it can not even define its own feelings. 
There is another word for care and love,solicitude maybe?
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posted January 27, 2009 11:03 PM |
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What should a guy say who does not believe in spirits?
Interesting is the fact that every human can live without his or her gential organs.Life possible without the need of a partner?
Ps: Love should be something as defined.With my words,the feeling to care for another individual or thing.
*Sigh* It may help to have a look at the meaning of the word "spirit". Ever had the word team spirit?
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posted January 27, 2009 11:09 PM |
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Now, for the underlined part. In fact, you are saying what I say - that there different sorts of love. We would need to have different words for differen kinds of love.
Or, rather, we would have ONE word to describe LOVE, and use it in combinations for other forms of "love".
That was my POV.
Example: We have two (currently) love: sibling love, and couple love.
We can make 2 words of "love", or we can make my pov: split up the "love" from the other components (attraction, etc).
So it's like splitting it into basic components, but at the very least ALL of them contain a common component: love. The rest are different (you don't usually have attraction towards, let's say, your father ). But the "love" component, it's still there.
We are turning in circles. You ASSUME a love component. All we see is that sibling love and couople love is different - fact. So we may simply give it different names. Problem solved.
But now you ASSUME that there is a "love component. You ASSUME, ou can split anything. You ASSUME the rest is different. However, I've shown that you can assume different.
So you have no point anymore, obviously, except assumptions, and who cares about them?
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posted January 27, 2009 11:13 PM |
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So you have no point anymore, obviously, except assumptions, and who cares about them?
Same goes for you btw...
This discussions is silly yet kinda cute so keep at it, lol
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posted January 28, 2009 12:39 AM |
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Ok so let me make it short then (): yes there is obviously common ground there, in many cases you feel very similar to your wife when you get older (because, let's say, attraction starts to disappear) as to your father for example (no, nothing to do with 'respect' or 'authority'). Let's say that common ground is the thing called love. (I could say, for example, "love + parental respect" and "love + attraction" are the difference between the too, but it would be simplistic).
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posted January 28, 2009 08:09 AM |
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So you have no point anymore, obviously, except assumptions, and who cares about them?
Same goes for you btw...
I'm not assuming. I'm merely stating that there seems to be a difference between the love of a mother for her child and the love of a man for his wife - wouldn't you say so. Basing both on the same basic feeling and calling that love assumes a very specific factual situation. And the only reason for Death's assumption is that he WANTS such a basic feeling to be there. See below.
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yes there is obviously common ground there, in many cases you feel very similar to your wife when you get older (because, let's say, attraction starts to disappear) as to your father for example (no, nothing to do with 'respect' or 'authority'). Let's say that common ground is the thing called love.
No, there is not OBVIOUSLY common ground there. OBVIOUSLY the feelings are different. If your feelings to your wife are very similar than those to your father when you get older, there are some FUNDAMENTAL things wrong with you, I can assure you that.
In truth we just don't KNOW it. We don't even know whether there IS something like love at all or not, or whether that's only a romantic word for a very specifixc mixture of instincts, habit and social upbringing.
With YOUR assumptions, what would be simple friendship? You know, that feeling of mutual sympathy you have with a buddy, discussing football and girls, playing games or squash or something regularly with, meeting for a beer... Is that love as well? Take into account that you PICK your "friends" (however you define them), but not your relatives, like father, mother, sister, brother. Since you don't pick them, will there ALWAYS be love from child to mother, father, sister, brother? If so, WHY? If not, why not?
In short, your "common ground" has - as a theory - precious few ground on which to stand on.
Personally I think that your view is clouded by the fact that you would simply LIKE it to be so, for some reasons not worth discussing here. But that doesn't make your "point" any better.
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posted January 28, 2009 09:54 AM |
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Saying that there are different kinds of love is not an assumption, and that's where you agree with Death. Your assumption is that they have different basis, while he thinks the basis is the same. His assumptions are no more assuming than yours. Can you see it now?
If you would have things like tomography showing brain activity when those 'loves' kick in then you would have something to rely on. Now you don't.
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